How does Church stuff look as an EC?

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges in the South or the rest of flyover country will view young life as a plus. Rest of the U.S.: it’s a red flag.

Our college counselor said to avoid any mention of church on any application as it would be seen as a red flag.

Terrible advice. Your counselor is an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of hatred towards Christians right now so if you can leave it off of your applications then you don't run the risk of being negatively judged. Same thing if you volunteer or work with right-leaning political organizations.

We are taught about implicit biases- take what you are taught to heart- and understand that your application will be negatively received.

That's not true. That's the kind of thing right wingers with a persecution complex tell themselves and progressives say to justify their hate.

But among normal and sane people there's no hatred towards Christians. For an EC, put things in a service context - helping people. Even Harvard and Columbia want kind people. Being part of a mainstream Christian or Catholic group - or any religious oriented group - that helps others is definitely not a negative. It's not 2020 anymore.

Catholics are anti-choice/ forced birthers, and they just banned gender-affirming care from all their hospitals.

Thank God.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Young Life is creepy

Irrelevant and inappropriate to this thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges in the South or the rest of flyover country will view young life as a plus. Rest of the U.S.: it’s a red flag.

Our college counselor said to avoid any mention of church on any application as it would be seen as a red flag.

Where is this? DC? Montgomery County, Maryland?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with Church activities (I’m not Christian). It’s no different than a person of any other religion who’s active in their religious community. I’m not religious either, but unfair to stereotype or “brand” anyone who places importance on religion as being “MAGA” or racist.

No, it’s very different.

If the applicant is white, they will be viewed as cristo-fascist MAGAs by most universities if they list Christian ECs. Especially by state universities in the NE and mid Atlantic (and west coast).

Maybe not so much so at Catholic U. or Villanova or Notre Dame, but just about everywhere else (including the ivies), Christian ec s are a huge red flag.

And if the applicant is Hispanic or Black it’s of course a huge plus, right? I’m so over this racial nonsense!

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of hatred towards Christians right now so if you can leave it off of your applications then you don't run the risk of being negatively judged. Same thing if you volunteer or work with right-leaning political organizations.

We are taught about implicit biases- take what you are taught to heart- and understand that your application will be negatively received.

That's not true. That's the kind of thing right wingers with a persecution complex tell themselves and progressives say to justify their hate.

But among normal and sane people there's no hatred towards Christians. For an EC, put things in a service context - helping people. Even Harvard and Columbia want kind people. Being part of a mainstream Christian or Catholic group - or any religious oriented group - that helps others is definitely not a negative. It's not 2020 anymore.

Catholics are anti-choice/ forced birthers, and they just banned gender-affirming care from all their hospitals.

Please explain what "gender affirming care" is for the uneducated. Please spell it out clearly.

This article spells it out clearly (ie - the catholics just banned it).

Gender affirming care in a Catholic hospital is almost as bad as having abortion services. There is no upside to offering those services and there are plenty of other resources outside of Catholic hospital settings for those who want it. The services are basically plastic surgery and hormonal treatments to transform people to a sex other than their own. It goes against the natural order and the name "care" is misleading and inaccurate. The services are barbaric in some cases. I am glad the Catholics are pushing back on this. Good for them.

The Catholic Church has always had a tempestuous relationship with science, and this is another example of it.

Science? You consider carving tissue out of ones forearm to create a penis to be science? I consider it to be barbarism. Should be outlawed altogether.

I guess higher rates of suicide, homelessness, depression and self-harm are better for kids with gender dysphoria according to the Church.

This is a lie pushed on parents to then push their kids as young as 10 or 11 into transitioning- something that the pioneers, and leaders of this field recommend against! No other country, not the most progressive, does this! Why do you think that is?

It is what happens when greed meets privilege. Again it is greed that fuels things in this country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges in the South or the rest of flyover country will view young life as a plus. Rest of the U.S.: it’s a red flag.

Our college counselor said to avoid any mention of church on any application as it would be seen as a red flag.

DC wrote a supplemental essay about their involvement in their church youth group. It’s central to DC’s identity so DC didn’t want to hide it. Got into first choice Ivy, where there is a thriving Christian community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges in the South or the rest of flyover country will view young life as a plus. Rest of the U.S.: it’s a red flag.

Our college counselor said to avoid any mention of church on any application as it would be seen as a red flag.

DC wrote a supplemental essay about their involvement in their church youth group. It’s central to DC’s identity so DC didn’t want to hide it. Got into first choice Ivy, where there is a thriving Christian community.

- a thriving community of cristo-fascists you mean.

[Anonymous]

I would think “church stuff” is ok, if you describe the leadership, organization activities they did. Something like, ordered materials for evening meetings, created presentations using (insert software, art stuff here), public speaking, lead discussion groups, community outreach. Focus more on the skills, and less on the content.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges in the South or the rest of flyover country will view young life as a plus. Rest of the U.S.: it’s a red flag.

Our college counselor said to avoid any mention of church on any application as it would be seen as a red flag.

DC wrote a supplemental essay about their involvement in their church youth group. It’s central to DC’s identity so DC didn’t want to hide it. Got into first choice Ivy, where there is a thriving Christian community.

- a thriving community of cristo-fascists you mean.

Unacceptable

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges in the South or the rest of flyover country will view young life as a plus. Rest of the U.S.: it’s a red flag.

Our college counselor said to avoid any mention of church on any application as it would be seen as a red flag.

DC wrote a supplemental essay about their involvement in their church youth group. It’s central to DC’s identity so DC didn’t want to hide it. Got into first choice Ivy, where there is a thriving Christian community.

Same here. I haven't read the thread so I don't know what direction it went in but I can add that my child got into 2 Ivies in 2025 with having church youth group involvement clearly listed in the activities section.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with Church activities (I’m not Christian). It’s no different than a person of any other religion who’s active in their religious community. I’m not religious either, but unfair to stereotype or “brand” anyone who places importance on religion as being “MAGA” or racist.

No, it’s very different.

If the applicant is white, they will be viewed as cristo-fascist MAGAs by most universities if they list Christian ECs. Especially by state universities in the NE and mid Atlantic (and west coast).

Maybe not so much so at Catholic U. or Villanova or Notre Dame, but just about everywhere else (including the ivies), Christian ec s are a huge red flag.

Please provide evidence for this (rather absurd) claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a rising Junior and these are her ECS at a competitive private school

- JV tennis 9th and 10th but cannot play competitively due to knee injury
-church basketball all years for fun with friends
-Summer swim team each summer
- Babysitting
- Tutors at a low income school in the summer weekly and volunteering at the same school, has already hit the requirements to make her schools service society by next year
-very involved with Young Life and her Church’s youth group

My concern for her is that the Young Life and Church stuff, while great isn’t a strong EC. It’s taken up a lot of the time sports used to since she got injured and won’t qualify for varsity with the amount of time she’s taken off tennis. But she loves these two activities but wondering if their time sucks? Schools she’s targeting are Clemson, USC, Auburn, Ole Miss, Georgia, Sewanee, potentially W&L and Wake as reaches.

I would not risk it.