Top 10 sour grapes

[Anonymous]

Most people accept being rejected by Harvard, MIT, CalTech, etc. But which school rejections are the hardest to accept? UVA? UCHICAGO? And why? Do people on DCUM really believe these are any easier to get in? I've been following for about three years now and this time of year gets super salty

[Anonymous]

The hardest to accept is whatever one you got. Beyond that I think state flagships are tough as it’s fair to think a strong applicant should be able to get into their public option.

Yea, I think Harvard, MIT, CalTech are harder to get into than UVA and UChicago.

[Anonymous]

UChicago has a < 5% acceptance rate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people accept being rejected by Harvard, MIT, CalTech, etc. But which school rejections are the hardest to accept? UVA? UCHICAGO? And why? Do people on DCUM really believe these are any easier to get in? I've been following for about three years now and this time of year gets super salty

Well, UVA has an acceptance around 25-30% compared to Harvard, MIT and Cal Tech less than 10%. So yes, UVA should be easier admit.

[Anonymous]

So many of the students applying to the Ivy+ have no business doing so. Then they apply ED thinking that will give them the edge. The internet grade advice is really sc**wing families over

[Anonymous]

why do you title this top 10 and then have uva?

no one should be bitter at a top 10 rejection. expecting to get in is extra dumb

[Anonymous]

Tulane! It was solidly target but that demonstrated interest will get you! DC in to several much more highly ranked schools, all is well. But that was the one that made us go hmmmm.

[Anonymous]

DC didn’t get into JHU, which was certainly not a guarantee. If they didn’t get into a school I expect them to get into - so, not tippy-top - I might be annoyed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The hardest to accept is whatever one you got. Beyond that I think state flagships are tough as it’s fair to think a strong applicant should be able to get into their public option.

Yea, I think Harvard, MIT, CalTech are harder to get into than UVA and UChicago.

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How is this even a comparison? UChicago, possibly. But UVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people accept being rejected by Harvard, MIT, CalTech, etc. But which school rejections are the hardest to accept? UVA? UCHICAGO? And why? Do people on DCUM really believe these are any easier to get in? I've been following for about three years now and this time of year gets super salty

UVA is by far and away easier to get in in-state than any ivy or Uchicago. Out of state it is easier but less different. Uchicago ED1 or 2 is significantly easier than ED to ivies or Duke. Getting in ED to ivies is easier than getting in RD. It is all on a scale but UVa is the big outlier here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hardest to accept is whatever one you got. Beyond that I think state flagships are tough as it’s fair to think a strong applicant should be able to get into their public option.

Yea, I think Harvard, MIT, CalTech are harder to get into than UVA and UChicago.

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How is this even a comparison? UChicago, possibly. But UVA?

You and OP are missing several points:

1) it has gotten very difficult to get into UVA.This fall's accepted class reports having a 4.5 GPA, 35 ACT and 1520 at the 75th percentile. Most are in the too 6% of their class and have taken many AP courses and their ECs are extraordinary (read the stats of weightlisted applicants in College Confidential
and Reddit to get a feel for the rigor UVA is seekong). My UVA kid (who tried for Ivies) would not get in today. My daughter wasn't even a contender. This irritates some in-state Virginians who don't want to consider the 30+ other in-state institutions which VA offers or even the guanteed transfer program

2) UVA is a small flagship when compared to UCLA, Michigan, Wisconsin, Cal, UNC and Texas. This means fewer seats available to Virginians who are seeking in-state tuition.

3) UVA allows 30% OOS and international students which is many more than California Texas, NC, etc which more severely restrict state resources for residents.

4) the financial gain of getting into UVA (or W&m or VT) is enormous for middle class and UMC parents who have been struggling since covid. ALL top publics are now highly sought after but DMV students are effectively shut out of Cal, Texas, and NC.

5) the financials are this: UVA is $40k a year. SLACs and Ivies are $86+. USC and my own SLAC are $95k a year all in. So if your child gets in to UVA, that is a financial win of $55k a year = $220 ahead over four years, $300k is paying out of taxable income.

6) If you sock that difference away and let it compound, you can pay for grad school, law school (a whopping $116k a year at the top schools), other kids' educations or a down payment on a home. This is a very big deal to Virginians.

7) It sounds like your information about UVA is obsolete. It ranks no 4 best public institution in the US. It ranks T24 of all institutions in the US. It is the no 1 public producer of Rhodes Scholars after West Point with 57 Rhodes. Same with Marshalls, and the other international scholarships. It's professional schools are also doing very well. UVA Law is T4.

It's very good value for the dollar. That's why parents want to get they kids in and why they are bitter when their kids don't get one if the 4,700 instate slots a year. and why they bash here.

Many parents are just unrealistic as to how difficult it has become to get into any top
public school.

Realistic parents look at all of the universities and colleges that UVA offers. The really smart ones do the community college transfer program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people accept being rejected by Harvard, MIT, CalTech, etc. But which school rejections are the hardest to accept? UVA? UCHICAGO? And why? Do people on DCUM really believe these are any easier to get in? I've been following for about three years now and this time of year gets super salty

UVA is by far and away easier to get in in-state than any ivy or Uchicago. [b]Out of state it is easier but less different. Uchicago ED1 or 2 is significantly easier than ED to ivies or Duke. Getting in ED to ivies is easier than getting in RD. It is all on a scale but UVa is the big outlier here

False today. See above and talk to your high school counselor. Ours laughed when we asked about UVA forour kid. He went to GMU. Do your homework. Read SCHEV. Learn about the stats of the weightlisted and denied students.

[Anonymous]

I thought this thread was about t10 schools? Why on earth is the UVA booster here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hardest to accept is whatever one you got. Beyond that I think state flagships are tough as it’s fair to think a strong applicant should be able to get into their public option.

Yea, I think Harvard, MIT, CalTech are harder to get into than UVA and UChicago.

+1
How is this even a comparison? UChicago, possibly. But UVA?

You and OP are missing several points:

1) it has gotten very difficult to get into UVA.This fall's accepted class reports having a 4.5 GPA, 35 ACT and 1520 at the 75th percentile. Most are in the too 6% of their class and have taken many AP courses and their ECs are extraordinary (read the stats of weightlisted applicants in College Confidential
and Reddit to get a feel for the rigor UVA is seekong). My UVA kid (who tried for Ivies) would not get in today. My daughter wasn't even a contender. This irritates some in-state Virginians who don't want to consider the 30+ other in-state institutions which VA offers or even the guanteed transfer program

2) UVA is a small flagship when compared to UCLA, Michigan, Wisconsin, Cal, UNC and Texas. This means fewer seats available to Virginians who are seeking in-state tuition.

3) UVA allows 30% OOS and international students which is many more than California Texas, NC, etc which more severely restrict state resources for residents.

4) the financial gain of getting into UVA (or W&m or VT) is enormous for middle class and UMC parents who have been struggling since covid. ALL top publics are now highly sought after but DMV students are effectively shut out of Cal, Texas, and NC.

5) the financials are this: UVA is $40k a year. SLACs and Ivies are $86+. USC and my own SLAC are $95k a year all in. So if your child gets in to UVA, that is a financial win of $55k a year = $220 ahead over four years, $300k is paying out of taxable income.

6) If you sock that difference away and let it compound, you can pay for grad school, law school (a whopping $116k a year at the top schools), other kids' educations or a down payment on a home. This is a very big deal to Virginians.

7) It sounds like your information about UVA is obsolete. It ranks no 4 best public institution in the US. It ranks T24 of all institutions in the US. It is the no 1 public producer of Rhodes Scholars after West Point with 57 Rhodes. Same with Marshalls, and the other international scholarships. It's professional schools are also doing very well. UVA Law is T4.

It's very good value for the dollar. That's why parents want to get they kids in and why they are bitter when their kids don't get one if the 4,700 instate slots a year. and why they bash here.

Many parents are just unrealistic as to how difficult it has become to get into any top
public school.

Realistic parents look at all of the universities and colleges that UVA offers. The really smart ones do the community college transfer program.

But....but community college!

No DCUMer would admit their DC went to UVA vis community college.

[Anonymous]

UMI and UNC