Plane crash DCA?

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Third staff sargeant on helo = male.

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Anonymous wrote:Third staff sargeant on helo = male.

From NYT: "Two Army officials confirmed that the two pilots of the helicopter — one man, one woman — and a male staff sergeant crew member were killed in the collision. The sergeant’s body has been recovered, the officials said, but the bodies of the two pilots are still in the fuselage, in eight feet of water. Officials are preparing recovery efforts, the officials said. The helicopter‘s black box is still in the fuselage, the officials said."

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Anonymous wrote:NYT reporting two helicopter pilots: one male, one female.

who was the other person?

Pilot, co- pilot, and the crew chief

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Man, the male helo pilot (or copilot) said at both ATC warnings that yes, they have visual separation and then went and crashed into the underside of the jet.

W T F.

They could have been watch another plane. It is in the video. Though he could have stopped. Helicopter can hover.

Unless this was a suicide mission.

This is what I’ve been wondering.

This crossed my mind too

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Man, the male helo pilot (or copilot) said at both ATC warnings that yes, they have visual separation and then went and crashed into the underside of the jet.

W T F.

They could have been watch another plane. It is in the video. Though he could have stopped. Helicopter can hover.

Look at it from overhead. The "other plane" theory makes no sense at all. They flew head on into a brightly lit plane that was in their forward line of direct sight. It didn't just suddenly appear out of nowhere.

Correct.

Radar shows only those too in a head-on collision path.

Dumb as F.

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Anonymous wrote:They keep sticking to the plan to reopen DCA at 11 but with so much recovery still to do will they really?

The recovery is in the water, not on the runways.

Still. Horrifying.

Absolutely! No one wants to see the wreckage beneath them as they land or fly out.

Did they close for the same amount of time for Air Florida?

I was 12. There was a snowstorm that hit that day. The city was pretty much shutdown. We got stuck at school. Parents stuck coming home from work. None of the school buses could get through we had dinner from the school cafeteria in the pod watching the wheeled in TV. I remember kids crying. One had a parent on the 14th street bridge where plane impacted. I still have images of that rescue operation and think of it every day when I cross that bridge.

Worse than that. It was also the day when Metrorail had its first fatal accident. The airport, the bridge, the metro system. A truly terrible day.

I've told this story before here, but my aunt had a seat on the Air Florida flight, but missed it because of the snow-related traffic. Then, on September 11th, 2001, she had a seat on United 93 but missed it because her son woke up with a 101 degree fever.

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Anonymous wrote:On Reddit, people point out this flight appeared to start from Langley.

The flight app showed (at some point) an address near the Langley HQ in an area with properties owned by Saudis. Lawton Street.

I’m starting to think they had a VIP at one point in the flight.

What do you think?

I’m thinking this will turn out to be incorrect. Why should a routine annual recertification training flight of the Army (per Hegseth!) take off from Langley or the Saudi embassy?

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Man, the male helo pilot (or copilot) said at both ATC warnings that yes, they have visual separation and then went and crashed into the underside of the jet.

W T F.

They could have been watch another plane. It is in the video. Though he could have stopped. Helicopter can hover.

Unless this was a suicide mission.

This is what I’ve been wondering.

This crossed my mind too

Why?

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Don’t let this distract you all from what is going on at the confirmation hearings…

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Anonymous wrote:The crew chief of the helicopter is a male (being shared locally in my area where he went to high school, outside of the DC region)

You can say Georgia. It's in the news. So sad; dad of a 1YO son.

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Anonymous wrote:They keep sticking to the plan to reopen DCA at 11 but with so much recovery still to do will they really?

The recovery is in the water, not on the runways.

Still. Horrifying.

Absolutely! No one wants to see the wreckage beneath them as they land or fly out.

Did they close for the same amount of time for Air Florida?

I was 12. There was a snowstorm that hit that day. The city was pretty much shutdown. We got stuck at school. Parents stuck coming home from work. None of the school buses could get through we had dinner from the school cafeteria in the pod watching the wheeled in TV. I remember kids crying. One had a parent on the 14th street bridge where plane impacted. I still have images of that rescue operation and think of it every day when I cross that bridge.

Worse than that. It was also the day when Metrorail had its first fatal accident. The airport, the bridge, the metro system. A truly terrible day.

I've told this story before here, but my aunt had a seat on the Air Florida flight, but missed it because of the snow-related traffic. Then, on September 11th, 2001, she had a seat on United 93 but missed it because her son woke up with a 101 degree fever.

holy cow. Does she play the lottery regularly?

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Anonymous wrote:Please post links of the victims .. is there a list somewhere?

I haven't seen an list other than what the ice skating clubs have posted, plus the name of one of the pilots.

"American Eagle flight pilot was 28-year-old Sam Lilley"

Jeez, isn't that young for a pilot?

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t let this distract you all from what is going on at the confirmation hearings…

Yes, catastrophic death can be so distracting! How about you head on back to Politics.

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Anonymous wrote:NYT reporting two helicopter pilots: one male, one female.

Helo pilot was a black woman. This will get interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:If the helo was en route from Langley back to Ft. Belvoir, why did they follow the river at all? It's not remotely the most direct path, which would be over land.

Rivers are quieter but clearly they need a better plan for avoiding active DCA jet traffic.

I'm the PP you quoted. I saw a clip on youtube of an "expert" saying that military helicopters fly designated "lanes" or routes and the east edge of the potomac is one common route. However he also said if they helicopter was at 200 ft like it should have been, he would have missed the plane entirely as plans are not that low until they are much closer to the runway.

The projected flight of the helicopter would have taken it over the main runway at national. So the helicopter seems to be above 200 foot restriction and crossing the river from east to west(not the normal flight path)

That’s a mystery to me.

Wtf was the expected route of the black hawk?

Was it really going to cut across the entire river and DCA airport? Or did it just wander into the middle of the river at too high an altitude?

What was it supposed to be doing?!?

Apparently according to experts being interviewed on tv, the eastern edge of the Potomac river IS the designated route for helicopters and yes they would need to cross over at a designated point and with awareness of ATC. However as previously stated the Helo was too high. Required altitude is 200 ft and they were 400 ft.

Sorry, who said they need to cross over and to cross over at the DCA airline runway juncture?

They’re going 10 miles due south to fort belvoir and following the river the whole time. Less noisy.