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I mean, Joe broke up with her is the rumor because he couldn’t handle her fame so not sure why you are comparing with Dolly Parton who’s been with her husband for 60 years and she just said on the stern show that they work really well because she’s on the go 24/7, 365 days a year, hustling, and he is a loner and likes to stay at home and it works for them. Clearly that didn’t work for Taylor and Joe so confused about that comparison. Seems like Joe wanted her to slow down and be quiet. I don’t care if Taylor has a man or not but if that’s what she wants, I hope she finds someone who supports her and is proud of her. Pretty much the opposite of Joe. |
Gotcha- you have information that JOE was the problem in the relationship because he wanted Taylor to slow down. I’m not sure how anyone can know that but maybe Taylor fans do. I think many on this thread (you included) would have judged dollys husband as being unsupportive because he didn’t “go to all the concerts.” This was brought up from Taylor’s fans earlier in the thread. As for the comparison, if you can compare or allow for comparison Kevin frderljne and Britney Spears and see that 2 entertainers are similar but you can’t compare Dolly Parton and her husband I more than disagree. |
What? No one is defining her "by her man". Taylor fans want her to have a man who supports her. Its well known that Joe was not supportive of her going on this new tour and all the hoopla that went with it. He loved what they had when she was hiding out after the Kanye debacle and during COVID. That's different than Dolly's husband who is very supportive but stays behind the scenes - a man can do both of those things. Taylor is NEVER going to live a normal life. She needs a man who can handle that- whether he wants to be in the spotlight or not. |
Ok- I stand by the idea that all the fans on here would lambast Taylor’s partner if he didn’t show up for concerts and would have judged Dolly Parton’ s husband. Glad to see some other fans recognize that being supportive doesn’t mean you have to go to every concert. It is amazing the way things change in 10 pages on this forum! |
Well, you realize I’m not the only poster on this thread, and I did not bring up the Britney Kevin thing. Seems like to me, Kevin use Brit for her money, and it doesn’t seem like Joe was doing that, but he didn’t support her in other ways. Of course, I don’t have “information” - any than anyone else does… We’re all speculating based on what we see. It just seems like Joe was not supportive of her and did want to dim her. For now anyways, it seems like Travis is proud and supportive… That is much easier to do in the beginning of a relationship and tougher through the years, hopefully whoever she ends up with stay supportive and proud of her. I didn’t follow Dolly‘s career closely until now, just following now as she is reflecting back and it seemed like the dynamic between her and her husband worked/works for them. he doesn’t like the spotlight, but is fine for her to shine. Certainly doesn’t strike me as unsupportive. |
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Man, the swiftie level in this thread is astronomical. At best, Taylor and Travis are in a relationship but are playing it up because of how they know y’all will react. He admitted on his podcast that he knew she was going to add a line in the song for him. His exaggerated reaction was part of the show.
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He seemed like a dud in interviews - only wanted to talk about “the work” but honestly, nobody would’ve had any interest in his work if it weren’t for Taylor. That’s unkind of me to say , I know. But he has to recognize that he benefited greatly from his association with her, and always will. |
Pretty much. Dumb genetics. And he’s ugly. If you saw him on the street he looks like an ugly big cop or plumber. No offense. Most of her other boyfriends were very attractive and creative intellectual types with a brain. |
And where did that get her? Still single into her thirties, so… why not try something different? |
You guys crack me up. Maybe someday you'll have more experience with men. But take it from me, tall, fit, agile, athletic men are the best lays. Combined with Travis' abundant charm, good humor, self confidence and obvious infatuation with her, Taylor is having the time of her life. I hope, for your sake, you understand this one day. |
+100 - she’s hopefully done with artsy betas. They aren’t good partners |
I’m not arguing that Kelce isn’t very different than her usual type as a professional athlete, but most of her partners have been somewhat tall (not relative to Taylor though) and very fit. Harry Styles, Joe, Jake Gyllenhaal, John Mayer. All in the 5’11” to 6’2” range I believe and in great shape. Hardly schlubs and probably good lovers. Matty is the weird scrawny exception, no question there. |
It was obvious he was listening for something. But getting a heads up that there might be a lyric change and then actually hearing it belted out in front of 65,000+ people is a whole other thing. He said he was shocked she “actually just did that.” That’s not exaggeration for the sake of a show. That’s a human reaction to a VERY big public gesture. |
I’m curious: I’m not a Taylor Swift fan, so I don’t really have a perspective on her music. Do you think she’ll have a lifelong career — if she wants one? That 20 or 30 years from now, her fans — either current or new — will still be excited to listen to her music? |