Will in pool letters come before Dec 15?

Anonymous
My older kids received their in pool letters before referrals were due. I went to say it was weeks before. Referrals are due at the end of the week.

Shouldn’t we have scores and in pool letters by now?

Yes, I know the AART told everyone to refer.
Anonymous
Nobody knows. I am not sure why they are taking longer in recent years either. We would have received both cogat and in pool letters for my older kids by this time already
Anonymous
If you care about AAP, just do the referral. No waiting necessary.

If you don't care about AAP, just don't do the referral. No waiting necessary

Problem solved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you care about AAP, just do the referral. No waiting necessary.

If you don't care about AAP, just don't do the referral. No waiting necessary

Problem solved.


At one time, AAP was considered a gifted program and the Cogat was considered a good indicator of whether a child is gifted or not.

That time is no longer as FCPS dismantles its gifted program and parents dismantle tests.
Anonymous
I think we will see it on Friday
Anonymous
What is weird is that the 15th is on Sunday. So, do I need to drop off my parent referral on Friday?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think we will see it on Friday


That is nuts. I don't get holding on to the information that they clearly have until it is so close to the deadline. This means people really need to be doing the parent referral no matter what, and it is time-consuming!

This whole process has so many points where people who are not paying close attention could miss the boat. Seems really unfair to lower-income families, families where English is a second language, families that might be going through something and distracted, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is weird is that the 15th is on Sunday. So, do I need to drop off my parent referral on Friday?


Are you planning on dropping off a physical copy in person? I have always emailed it in to the AART. I’ve heard years ago people used to do it in person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is weird is that the 15th is on Sunday. So, do I need to drop off my parent referral on Friday?


Ever since Covid our AART required it to be digital.

I would email it on a day when your AART is at your school (not all of them are at a given school all week, ours was only at our school - which was a center! - 3 days a week) and get confirmation that it was received. If you miss the deadline they literally can't do anything about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is weird is that the 15th is on Sunday. So, do I need to drop off my parent referral on Friday?


Ever since Covid our AART required it to be digital.

I would email it on a day when your AART is at your school (not all of them are at a given school all week, ours was only at our school - which was a center! - 3 days a week) and get confirmation that it was received. If you miss the deadline they literally can't do anything about it.


Apparently ours said at the info session that she will not confirm receipt, which seems kind of whacky to me. I have had emails to FCPS addresses fail before!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is weird is that the 15th is on Sunday. So, do I need to drop off my parent referral on Friday?


Ever since Covid our AART required it to be digital.

I would email it on a day when your AART is at your school (not all of them are at a given school all week, ours was only at our school - which was a center! - 3 days a week) and get confirmation that it was received. If you miss the deadline they literally can't do anything about it.


Apparently ours said at the info session that she will not confirm receipt, which seems kind of whacky to me. I have had emails to FCPS addresses fail before!


That is insane. I'd copy either an assistant principal or someone in the office and have them confirm receipt.

Our AART was amazingly helpful and I'm always surprised by these kinds of reports on here.
Anonymous
Is the in pool decision made by the school or the county? And do they use anything else beside cogat, e.g., iReady, first grade report etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is the in pool decision made by the school or the county? And do they use anything else beside cogat, e.g., iReady, first grade report etc.


I asked this question a few days ago and it doesn’t sound like anyone really knew. I believe top 10% of kids per school. My friend told me it was the average of the cogat and NNAT. This is what she heard and that is what she told me. Who knows how it is actually calculated?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is the in pool decision made by the school or the county? And do they use anything else beside cogat, e.g., iReady, first grade report etc.


I understand it's some combination of cogat and nnat only but no one knows exactly how they are combined. I'm also curious about who exactly makes the decision.

Additionally, if not in-pool, what does that mean? Your child is not in the top 10% of their grade on these tests or something else?
Anonymous
I don't think the the in-pool score is decided by a straight average of the COGAT and NNAT, but you're right, nobody really knows. From what I've seen, I think the COGAT is weighted more heavily than the NNAT. I think the county determines who is in-pool because they are the ones that send out the in-pool notification emails. What IS definitive is that nothing is used to determine the in-pool score other than the NNAT and COGAT.
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