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Kids are matching to test-required Ivies via Questbridge with SATs in the 1300s.
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Anonymous
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I was reading Questbridge matches on Reddit---lots of kids matching to Dartmouth, Brown, Yale with SATs under 1400.
I think the era of hyper-inflated SAT averages due to test optional policies is over. Happy for the QB kids! |
Anonymous
| ‘Twas ever thus. Even under test mandatory, the school doesn’t have to report the bottom 25% scores, and no Ivy has ever been close to 25% Questbridge scholars. Ivies also use that space for athletes, celebrity brats, etc. |
Anonymous
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Good for QB.
It won’t be applicable for anyone who is not first generation or low income |
Anonymous
What do you mean when you say a school pre-Covid did not “have to report“ the bottom 25%? Of course they did. When they reported the range for the middle 50% that by definition also reported what the bottom 25% was. You’re an idiot. |
Anonymous
Why, why, why did you feel it necessary to write “you’re an idiot”? You could have corrected her/him without the insult. Would you say that to a stranger face to face? |
Anonymous
When a school reports that its 25th percentile score is 1500, there is no way to tell from that data whether the lowest score at the school is 1400 or 1300 or 1100. That’s what I mean by they don’t have to report the bottom 25%. |
Anonymous
| A high 1300 is a sign of potential for a first gen low income student, especially if they’re from a rural or underfunded school. Bring the sat scores back down to reality. There were upper middle class students with 1200s getting into these colleges through TO. |
Anonymous
| I think it's good all around. Maybe a DMV kid can't get in with a 1300 but it's no longer the "should I submit a 1500?" era. |
Anonymous
| Might be insensitive to question the model, but regarding these QB matches … is there longitudinal data regarding how these students perform at their match schools? |
Anonymous
I immediately understood what you were saying. Law schools do the same thing. |
Anonymous
They do fine. They have their own chapters to keep community and perform like all other first gen students at top colleges- well, the graduation rates are insanely high. |
Anonymous
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When MIT returned to test required they put out a post explaining the decision.
A big part of their reasoning was that test scores helped them identify kids who faced socio-economic challenges and didn't have other ways to demonstrate that they were capable of undertaking an MIT curriculum. They specifically said that they didn't expect the same scores they saw from other applicants, but that applicants often didn't submit scores in the 1300s or 1400s, even though those scores would help their application. |
Anonymous
Yale (I think it was Yale) found that TOs did about as well as 1300s. So there probably won't be a material difference in # of kids performing at each level, it's just that now those scores are being reported. |
Anonymous
The lowest score is an irrelevant data point. You can assume that most of the bottom 25 percent are clustered closer to the higher end of the 25 percent cut off. So, to the extent that you are all hinting that the kids who match through Questbridge are at the very very bottom of the scale you are probably wrong. |
Anonymous
They are segregated on campus and not well integrated at all. The remedial programs that they’re required to take the summer before definitely give kids a label. |