Should we include WISC in parent referral
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Anonymous
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We had a WISC for DD - grade 2 done this fall with GMU
Scores: FSIQ: 115 Verbal Comprehension Index: 113 Visual Spatial Index: 114 Fluid Reasoning Index: 115 Working Memory Index:130 Processing Speed: 98 NNAT: 138 COGAT: We do not know but AART pulled her into differentiated math based on COGAT quantitative score Should I include or not include WISC? I already asked the AART and she refuses to provide advice on whether to include these. What would u do for your DS/DD if you were me?? |
Anonymous
| I would not include that WISC. The NNAT is good so if the COGAT is good as well then that WISC score will not help your case. I would only include the WISC if it's around 130 or higher, but that's just me. |
Anonymous
| No. It’s not a great score. |
Anonymous
+1. Do not include. |
Anonymous
| What was the reason for taking the WISC? |
Anonymous
| I can’t imagine it would help. |
Anonymous
You’re seriously misinformed. No AART has any COGAT scores. No schools have them. Also, content specific services (aka Level 2) are not pull out services. |
Anonymous
| What is a good WISC score? I have to imagine it varies a lot by school? |
Anonymous
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By school? They don’t take WiSC’s at school.
Anything that is 99 th percentile. |
Anonymous
Public school gifted programs in districts I have lived in have typically had a 130 cutoff. Does she possibly have ADHD? The combo of very high NNAT and relatively low WISC would make me wonder. |
Anonymous
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The WiSC Scores are solid, they say that you have an above average child. They are not scores that fall into the gifted category. My kids score was a 135 and I don’t think that falls into the gifted category.
The in-pool scores before they moved to school based scores was a 132, your kids WiSC scores are not close to what would have been considered in-pool. Most of the people who applied for their kids had CoGAT or WiSC scores that were closer to 132. You are better off hoping that the CoGAT was closer to the NNAT score and not the WiSC score. The NNAT score is would probably be in-pool in many ES’s but there are a few were the in-pool scores were in the 140s. |
Anonymous
| Just wait for the CoGaT you can submit it after you get the results if you want. But don’t if the CogAT is great. Save it for appeal |
Anonymous
What’s with your AART refusing to advise??? Doesn’t seem like someone who is very invested in your child being placed into the program, and that would make me wonder why. Do you have a strained relationship with your school’s AART? Is she irritated by your child or by you? Our AART many years ago was happy to offer her advice (when asked) to any parent. She would be very honest about her take though. Like she would have said “those are great!—submit and see what happens!” Or “those scores might be borderline, so it’s hard to say. I’ll leave that up to you.” Or “i don’t think those scores are going to move the needle on appeal, so stick to additional work samples.” I can’t see the AART just refusing to weigh in at all. Doesn’t seem helpful and I’d have to question why that’s her stance. Maybe she was told not to. Maybe she got burned by a prior parent when she told them to submit scores and the kid didn’t get in and parent was mad at her advice. |
Anonymous
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OP why don’t you know your child’s cogat score?
I would not include the WISC in regular application. And I’m not sure the results would be helpful on appeal. |
Anonymous
Not OP but cogAT scores haven't come back yet for gr 2. To the previous poster telling OP to wait for the CogAT scores, that doesn't make sense because the scores will not be available before the parent referral deadline. To the person saying why is the AART refusing to advise, this goes beyond the standard kind of advising they should provide. They are not to tell you if your work samples are awesome or if you should add a wisc score to make your package stronger. |