RTO issue-- my mgr says ignore

[Anonymous]

Got a RTO mandate. Really useless. my mgr says ignore, she will deal with the repercussions, but this is not in writing. Bad idea, right?

[Anonymous]

Bad idea. I am assuming your RTO requires a certain number of days. I would at least go in for half of it instead of being in 100% violation.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, were required 2.5 days per week

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I'd follow the mandate -- at least for now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bad idea. I am assuming your RTO requires a certain number of days. I would at least go in for half of it instead of being in 100% violation.

+1. Agree with starting with 50% compliance and seeing how they enforce it, if at all.

[Anonymous]

Do not ignore.

[Anonymous]

Bad idea. Don't be that employees.

[Anonymous]

Get it in writing from your supervisor. Otherwise do not ignore. They are checking badge swipes, computer location, etc and it will be easy to get caught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are checking badge swipes, computer location, etc and it will be easy to get caught.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, were required 2.5 days per week

2.5 days? Just go in. That is pretty good, all things considered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get it in writing from your supervisor. Otherwise do not ignore. They are checking badge swipes, computer location, etc and it will be easy to get caught.

+1. My husband works at an investment bank and financial firms seem to be ahead of the curve on this. His workplace has been factoring in attendance when it comes to layoffs, bonus/comp, and promotions for years at this point. And anyone who is in less than 80% over a 30 day period automatically has a meeting with their manager to discuss. And they count swiping in and out, and if you’re not there for a minimum amount of time it’s considered a WFH day. I think many workplaces are past carrots and are now very comfortable using sticks.

I would follow it unless your manager puts it in writing to you AND her manager signs off on it. You may not be fired when they go to make cuts, but you may not be eligible for a top performer bonus percentage or a promotion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bad idea. Don't be that employees.

+1. The employees that flout pretty reasonable RTO requirements, and the managers who let them, are really responsible for the more draconian policies we’re seeing. If your company treats you like an adult and asks you to go in 2.5 days a week for collaboration or to mentor/manage other employees and you then go in 1 day a week, you shouldn’t be shocked when your company starts treating you like a child by laying out a variety of penalties for non-compliance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are checking badge swipes, computer location, etc and it will be easy to get caught.

This.

It's not always that simple. Our office tried to monitor badge swipes for compliance, but people often walk through the door in numbers, so only the person swiping in got recorded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are checking badge swipes, computer location, etc and it will be easy to get caught.

This.

It's not always that simple. Our office tried to monitor badge swipes for compliance, but people often walk through the door in numbers, so only the person swiping in got recorded.

Then you all swipe. You just say “Thanks for holding the door, but I need to swipe.”

By not swiping you not only make it harder for your company to track RTO compliance (and potentially disadvantage yourself if your company checks on this), but you also make it harder for your company to understand workplace utilization which impacts decisions about whether to renew leases, hot desk policies, even office snacks, etc. and if your company tracks greenhouse gas emissions, including employee commuting via badge data, you and your friends will make that data less reliable. But screw all of that, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are checking badge swipes, computer location, etc and it will be easy to get caught.

This.

It's not always that simple. Our office tried to monitor badge swipes for compliance, but people often walk through the door in numbers, so only the person swiping in got recorded.

Then you all swipe. You just say “Thanks for holding the door, but I need to swipe.”

By not swiping you not only make it harder for your company to track RTO compliance (and potentially disadvantage yourself if your company checks on this), but you also make it harder for your company to understand workplace utilization which impacts decisions about whether to renew leases, hot desk policies, even office snacks, etc. and if your company tracks greenhouse gas emissions, including employee commuting via badge data, you and your friends will make that data less reliable. But screw all of that, right?

NP and if all that stuff is so important maybe the company can install a faster way of getting into the office like turn styles. What a PITA to open and fully shut a door for each person that needs to go through it when there is a line of people coming in. My work, for example, has an exterior door and then four turn styles where you swipe to get in next to the reception/guard desk.