Affordable housing my $&$

Anonymous
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/10/new-affordable-housing-development-in-north-bethesda-stands-on-site-of-former-metro-parking-lot/


How can they smile and say how affordable this place is? For who? I can’t pay $8k/mo rent for a 3 bedroom apartment for my family. As a teacher I wouldn’t even be able to afford their $4k 2 bedroom apartments. Am I supposed to cram my whole family into the few one bedroom or studio apartments?

Council needs to get real and the media needs to be transparent in their reporting!

https://www.ravelandroyale.com/en/apartments/royaleresidences
Anonymous
How big is your family? I lived in a studio with 2 people and in 1-bedroom with 3. Many do the same to be in our neighborhood.
Had we invested the money we saved over buying, we would have had half a million to put down after 11-13 years living in apartment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/10/new-affordable-housing-development-in-north-bethesda-stands-on-site-of-former-metro-parking-lot/


How can they smile and say how affordable this place is? For who? I can’t pay $8k/mo rent for a 3 bedroom apartment for my family. As a teacher I wouldn’t even be able to afford their $4k 2 bedroom apartments. Am I supposed to cram my whole family into the few one bedroom or studio apartments?

Council needs to get real and the media needs to be transparent in their reporting!

https://www.ravelandroyale.com/en/apartments/royaleresidences


If it works like other apartment buildings with affordable units, then the website you linked to is only listing the unrestricted (market-rate) units. It's not listing the income-restricted (affordable) units.

"Ravel and Royale" is a dumb name, in my opinion - apparently the Ravel is the composer Ravel, not the ravel in unravel - but not any dumber than Amalyn, for example, or a gazillion other dumb development names.
Anonymous
$8,000 a month for an apartment in Grosvenor?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/10/new-affordable-housing-development-in-north-bethesda-stands-on-site-of-former-metro-parking-lot/


How can they smile and say how affordable this place is? For who? I can’t pay $8k/mo rent for a 3 bedroom apartment for my family. As a teacher I wouldn’t even be able to afford their $4k 2 bedroom apartments. Am I supposed to cram my whole family into the few one bedroom or studio apartments?

Council needs to get real and the media needs to be transparent in their reporting!

https://www.ravelandroyale.com/en/apartments/royaleresidences


If it works like other apartment buildings with affordable units, then the website you linked to is only listing the unrestricted (market-rate) units. It's not listing the income-restricted (affordable) units.

"Ravel and Royale" is a dumb name, in my opinion - apparently the Ravel is the composer Ravel, not the ravel in unravel - but not any dumber than Amalyn, for example, or a gazillion other dumb development names.


My love/hate name in Clarendon is the "Modera" apartments. They were even built during Covid when the Moderna vaccine was being used. They could have easily changed the name to something that didn't remind people of a Covid vaccine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/10/new-affordable-housing-development-in-north-bethesda-stands-on-site-of-former-metro-parking-lot/


How can they smile and say how affordable this place is? For who? I can’t pay $8k/mo rent for a 3 bedroom apartment for my family. As a teacher I wouldn’t even be able to afford their $4k 2 bedroom apartments. Am I supposed to cram my whole family into the few one bedroom or studio apartments?

Council needs to get real and the media needs to be transparent in their reporting!

https://www.ravelandroyale.com/en/apartments/royaleresidences


If it works like other apartment buildings with affordable units, then the website you linked to is only listing the unrestricted (market-rate) units. It's not listing the income-restricted (affordable) units.

"Ravel and Royale" is a dumb name, in my opinion - apparently the Ravel is the composer Ravel, not the ravel in unravel - but not any dumber than Amalyn, for example, or a gazillion other dumb development names.


It's next to Strathmore, PP. Come on. MD is one of the most highly educated states in the nation.
Anonymous

OP, we lived for 10 years in a one bedroom rental, until DC1 was 6 and DC2 was 1, and lived *extremely* frugally, to afford a 1200 sq ft single family home in a better school district.

I entirely agree that we need to build more affordable housing, but I just wanted to tell you that families make calculated sacrifices for their long-term goals. The concept of one bedroom per kid is just that. A concept. Not a reality for most people in the world.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/10/new-affordable-housing-development-in-north-bethesda-stands-on-site-of-former-metro-parking-lot/


How can they smile and say how affordable this place is? For who? I can’t pay $8k/mo rent for a 3 bedroom apartment for my family. As a teacher I wouldn’t even be able to afford their $4k 2 bedroom apartments. Am I supposed to cram my whole family into the few one bedroom or studio apartments?

Council needs to get real and the media needs to be transparent in their reporting!

https://www.ravelandroyale.com/en/apartments/royaleresidences


If it works like other apartment buildings with affordable units, then the website you linked to is only listing the unrestricted (market-rate) units. It's not listing the income-restricted (affordable) units.

"Ravel and Royale" is a dumb name, in my opinion - apparently the Ravel is the composer Ravel, not the ravel in unravel - but not any dumber than Amalyn, for example, or a gazillion other dumb development names.


It's next to Strathmore, PP. Come on. MD is one of the most highly educated states in the nation.


I'm the PP who commented on the name. I am aware of the composer Ravel. It's still a a dumb name. Why Ravel, other than that it's alliterative with Royale - which, why Royale? What's royale about buildings in a former parking lot next to a Metro station? Why not Rossini and Royale? Or Prokofiev and Prole?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/10/new-affordable-housing-development-in-north-bethesda-stands-on-site-of-former-metro-parking-lot/


How can they smile and say how affordable this place is? For who? I can’t pay $8k/mo rent for a 3 bedroom apartment for my family. As a teacher I wouldn’t even be able to afford their $4k 2 bedroom apartments. Am I supposed to cram my whole family into the few one bedroom or studio apartments?

Council needs to get real and the media needs to be transparent in their reporting!

https://www.ravelandroyale.com/en/apartments/royaleresidences


If it works like other apartment buildings with affordable units, then the website you linked to is only listing the unrestricted (market-rate) units. It's not listing the income-restricted (affordable) units.

"Ravel and Royale" is a dumb name, in my opinion - apparently the Ravel is the composer Ravel, not the ravel in unravel - but not any dumber than Amalyn, for example, or a gazillion other dumb development names.


It's next to Strathmore, PP. Come on. MD is one of the most highly educated states in the nation.


I'm the PP who commented on the name. I am aware of the composer Ravel. It's still a a dumb name. Why Ravel, other than that it's alliterative with Royale - which, why Royale? What's royale about buildings in a former parking lot next to a Metro station? Why not Rossini and Royale? Or Prokofiev and Prole?


I think a marketing firm found an association with revel. As in, fun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
OP, we lived for 10 years in a one bedroom rental, until DC1 was 6 and DC2 was 1, and lived *extremely* frugally, to afford a 1200 sq ft single family home in a better school district.

I entirely agree that we need to build more affordable housing, but I just wanted to tell you that families make calculated sacrifices for their long-term goals. The concept of one bedroom per kid is just that. A concept. Not a reality for most people in the world.



Good for you! You did it and it paid off. You should be justifiably proud of that accomplishment. We only lasted until DC1 was 2.

That being said, most of the way we live in the United States is "not a reality for most people in the world" so perhaps tone it down a bit.
Anonymous
This project received a massive subsidy from the county and then the developer turned around and asked planning to cut the number of units in the first phase by a third. Planning, of course, agreed even though it usually says we need more housing. Bottom line is we all get fleeced in a big way to subsidize a developer and/or rents for embassies or high-income households. It’s a perfect example of wasteful housing subsidies for market rate housing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/10/new-affordable-housing-development-in-north-bethesda-stands-on-site-of-former-metro-parking-lot/


How can they smile and say how affordable this place is? For who? I can’t pay $8k/mo rent for a 3 bedroom apartment for my family. As a teacher I wouldn’t even be able to afford their $4k 2 bedroom apartments. Am I supposed to cram my whole family into the few one bedroom or studio apartments?

Council needs to get real and the media needs to be transparent in their reporting!

https://www.ravelandroyale.com/en/apartments/royaleresidences


If it works like other apartment buildings with affordable units, then the website you linked to is only listing the unrestricted (market-rate) units. It's not listing the income-restricted (affordable) units.

"Ravel and Royale" is a dumb name, in my opinion - apparently the Ravel is the composer Ravel, not the ravel in unravel - but not any dumber than Amalyn, for example, or a gazillion other dumb development names.


It's next to Strathmore, PP. Come on. MD is one of the most highly educated states in the nation.


I'm the PP who commented on the name. I am aware of the composer Ravel. It's still a a dumb name. Why Ravel, other than that it's alliterative with Royale - which, why Royale? What's royale about buildings in a former parking lot next to a Metro station? Why not Rossini and Royale? Or Prokofiev and Prole?


I think a marketing firm found an association with revel. As in, fun.


That's even worse, because it's Rav-EL, not RAV-el.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This project received a massive subsidy from the county and then the developer turned around and asked planning to cut the number of units in the first phase by a third. Planning, of course, agreed even though it usually says we need more housing. Bottom line is we all get fleeced in a big way to subsidize a developer and/or rents for embassies or high-income households. It’s a perfect example of wasteful housing subsidies for market rate housing.

If I recall, Hans Riemer was the biggest champion of this development. Literally everything he touched he screwed up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2024/10/new-affordable-housing-development-in-north-bethesda-stands-on-site-of-former-metro-parking-lot/


How can they smile and say how affordable this place is? For who? I can’t pay $8k/mo rent for a 3 bedroom apartment for my family. As a teacher I wouldn’t even be able to afford their $4k 2 bedroom apartments. Am I supposed to cram my whole family into the few one bedroom or studio apartments?

Council needs to get real and the media needs to be transparent in their reporting!

https://www.ravelandroyale.com/en/apartments/royaleresidences


If it works like other apartment buildings with affordable units, then the website you linked to is only listing the unrestricted (market-rate) units. It's not listing the income-restricted (affordable) units.

"Ravel and Royale" is a dumb name, in my opinion - apparently the Ravel is the composer Ravel, not the ravel in unravel - but not any dumber than Amalyn, for example, or a gazillion other dumb development names.


It's next to Strathmore, PP. Come on. MD is one of the most highly educated states in the nation.


If the people are so highly educated, why do they have to live in affordable housing?
Anonymous
If a (the average) city or county employee can’t afford said “affordable housing project”, then it’s not affordable.
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