If Wisconsin has a good state flagship, why can’t New Jersey or New York?

[Anonymous]

NJ is double the size of Wisconsin, with two huge metro area ( Philly and nyc). NY is nearly 5 times the population of Wisconsin, yet the SUNY system if lackluster. Wisconsin doesn’t even have a top 30 metro area, yet it somehow or another is able to find money/talent for a good state university. Where is all that money going for public schools in the NY/NJ?

[Anonymous]

What?
New York has the land grant colleges at Cornell.
Amazing.

[Anonymous]

Different foundational evolution of higher education between the east coast and "land grant' midwest and west.

[Anonymous]

Because Wisconsin, up until recently, was a highly progressive state with a lot of money spend on public education.

[Anonymous]

Midwesterners, much like Californians, are all in on public school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NJ is double the size of Wisconsin, with two huge metro area ( Philly and nyc). NY is nearly 5 times the population of Wisconsin, yet the SUNY system if lackluster. Wisconsin doesn’t even have a top 30 metro area, yet it somehow or another is able to find money/talent for a good state university. Where is all that money going for public schools in the NY/NJ?

Wisconsin isn’t as good as it once was. I guess its lack of a top 30 metro area is finally catching up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NJ is double the size of Wisconsin, with two huge metro area ( Philly and nyc). NY is nearly 5 times the population of Wisconsin, yet the SUNY system if lackluster. Wisconsin doesn’t even have a top 30 metro area, yet it somehow or another is able to find money/talent for a good state university. Where is all that money going for public schools in the NY/NJ?

Wisconsin isn’t as good as it once was. I guess its lack of a top 30 metro area is finally catching up.

still better than SUNY and a pretty nice school. One thing not mentioned above is that Wisconsin has reciprocity with a number of other midwestern states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What?
New York has the land grant colleges at Cornell.
Amazing.

Cornell is private. U Buffalo is notoriously underfunded. The closest public to Wisconsin in the northeast is U Maryland. Even then, it’s only comparable for cs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because Wisconsin, up until recently, was a highly progressive state with a lot of money spend on public education.

What progressivism? You mean during WW1? Wisconsin hasn’t been a progressive state since that 1960s, which I wouldn’t consider recent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What?
New York has the land grant colleges at Cornell.
Amazing.

Cornell is private. U Buffalo is notoriously underfunded. The closest public to Wisconsin in the northeast is U Maryland. Even then, it’s only comparable for cs.

Indiana? Penn State? Ohio State? Those are absolutely on par with or better than Maryland. Rutgers is better than Maryland. This is a weird thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What?
New York has the land grant colleges at Cornell.
Amazing.

Cornell is private. U Buffalo is notoriously underfunded. The closest public to Wisconsin in the northeast is U Maryland. Even then, it’s only comparable for cs.

Half of Cornell is land-grant and they are required to take a certain number of New York residents who pay a different New York resident tuition rate.

[Anonymous]

What? At our affluent NJ public, every year, many of the top kids go to Rutgers. It’s an excellent flagship, top 50 ranked nationally, Big 10 college experience. Not the most gorgeous campus but it’s fine. And now that it’s on the common app it’s pretty selective even in state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What?
New York has the land grant colleges at Cornell.
Amazing.

Cornell is private. U Buffalo is notoriously underfunded. The closest public to Wisconsin in the northeast is U Maryland. Even then, it’s only comparable for cs.

Indiana? Penn State? Ohio State? Those are absolutely on par with or better than Maryland. Rutgers is better than Maryland. This is a weird thread.

UCMD is better than all of those.

signed, a once upon a time international applicant

[Anonymous]

NJ and NY didn't need a state flagship the way Wisconsin did. They have ivies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NJ and NY didn't need a state flagship the way Wisconsin did. They have ivies.

This is true…plus MIT and all the SLACs.

BTW…Rutgers is 41 and Wisc 39…so, not even sure where the thread is coming from.