What are the bigger clubs?

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[Post New]10/14/2024 15:57
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Anonymous
Reading another post I started wondering what were the bigger clubs, mid-size and small clubs in the area. And what constitutes a "bigger" club in numbers?
[Post New]10/14/2024 16:20
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Anonymous
Small is 1-75, medium 76-200, large 201-500, and extra large 500+. Those are the ranges set by USA Swimming.
[Post New]10/14/2024 16:36
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Anonymous
Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)
[Post New]10/14/2024 16:38
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Wow.
[Post New]10/14/2024 16:39
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Small is 1-75, medium 76-200, large 201-500, and extra large 500+. Those are the ranges set by USA Swimming.


I would have through a medium club would be bigger. 200 is small and if you were a talented swimmer the chances of a cohort that is your age would be slim.
[Post New]10/14/2024 16:51
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Are these numbers published somewhere?
[Post New]10/14/2024 16:52
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Small is 1-75, medium 76-200, large 201-500, and extra large 500+. Those are the ranges set by USA Swimming.


I would have through a medium club would be bigger. 200 is small and if you were a talented swimmer the chances of a cohort that is your age would be slim.


USA Swimming is covering the entire country, including rural places and places where swimming isn’t much of a thing. Maybe if they were only categorizing the extremely dense PVS region, they’d have chosen differently.
[Post New]10/14/2024 16:52
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Extra Large - Marlins (720)

Large - PAC (420), FXFX (320), SDS (450), Tollefson (300)

Medium - STJ (250), BWST (150), CSC (220), Herndon (175), Tiburones (125)

Small - PGPR (80), Shark Tank (50), Suburban Aquatics (70), APEX (27), Dragon (85),
[Post New]10/14/2024 16:54
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Are these numbers published somewhere?


Most of the swim stats sites have a place where you can click on the club and scroll to the bottom to see the number of total swimmers.
[Post New]10/14/2024 16:58
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


I don't believe you can treat any club with separate locations in the aggregate. NCAP has many locations in Maryland and Virginia. Also, some NCAP locations have age caps, while others don't. For example, NCAP HA only allows swimmers up to a certain age, then they have to move to NCAP AU (which is why many switch to NCAP GP). RMSC has its main location (very hard to get into), but then has RMSC KSAC (under renovation, now in SS - easier to get into), and a few others. By contrast, ASA has one location and is one club broken into different age and skill groups.
[Post New]10/14/2024 17:02
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Anonymous
And NOVA in Richmond is like 1050-1100 and TIDE is 775-800. VA/MD are huge swim states.
[Post New]10/14/2024 17:05
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


I don't believe you can treat any club with separate locations in the aggregate. NCAP has many locations in Maryland and Virginia. Also, some NCAP locations have age caps, while others don't. For example, NCAP HA only allows swimmers up to a certain age, then they have to move to NCAP AU (which is why many switch to NCAP GP). RMSC has its main location (very hard to get into), but then has RMSC KSAC (under renovation, now in SS - easier to get into), and a few others. By contrast, ASA has one location and is one club broken into different age and skill groups.


Oh, totally. It’s too bad the broken down numbers aren’t readily accessible. All the extra large and large clubs have many locations, with the exception of Makos and AAC (and ASA, it seems). Even NCAP-West had a few locations, whereas NCAP-Burke, NCAP-CM, and NCAP-DS are self-contained.
[Post New]10/14/2024 17:20
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Extra Large - Marlins (720)

Large - PAC (420), FXFX (320), SDS (450), Tollefson (300)

Medium - STJ (250), BWST (150), CSC (220), Herndon (175), Tiburones (125)

Small - PGPR (80), Shark Tank (50), Suburban Aquatics (70), APEX (27), Dragon (85),



Marlins is that big? I would have thought them to be better.
[Post New]10/15/2024 08:46
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


I don't believe you can treat any club with separate locations in the aggregate. NCAP has many locations in Maryland and Virginia. Also, some NCAP locations have age caps, while others don't. For example, NCAP HA only allows swimmers up to a certain age, then they have to move to NCAP AU (which is why many switch to NCAP GP). RMSC has its main location (very hard to get into), but then has RMSC KSAC (under renovation, now in SS - easier to get into), and a few others. By contrast, ASA has one location and is one club broken into different age and skill groups.


Oh, totally. It’s too bad the broken down numbers aren’t readily accessible. All the extra large and large clubs have many locations, with the exception of Makos and AAC (and ASA, it seems). Even NCAP-West had a few locations, whereas NCAP-Burke, NCAP-CM, and NCAP-DS are self-contained.


AAC has 3 locations.
[Post New]10/15/2024 08:55
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


I don't believe you can treat any club with separate locations in the aggregate. NCAP has many locations in Maryland and Virginia. Also, some NCAP locations have age caps, while others don't. For example, NCAP HA only allows swimmers up to a certain age, then they have to move to NCAP AU (which is why many switch to NCAP GP). RMSC has its main location (very hard to get into), but then has RMSC KSAC (under renovation, now in SS - easier to get into), and a few others. By contrast, ASA has one location and is one club broken into different age and skill groups.


Oh, totally. It’s too bad the broken down numbers aren’t readily accessible. All the extra large and large clubs have many locations, with the exception of Makos and AAC (and ASA, it seems). Even NCAP-West had a few locations, whereas NCAP-Burke, NCAP-CM, and NCAP-DS are self-contained.


AAC has 3 locations.


But they all end up at Long Bridge and it is the lower groups (and just a few of them) at the high schools. All their best groups/coaches are at Long Bridge. There was a stink by some parents that didn't want to drive out of their neighborhood for their age group swimmers. The joke is on them, in the sense that these kids are now kind of forgotten at the high schools.
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