Land Cruiser 1958 vs. 4Runner Sport

[Anonymous]

Trying to decide between the two. Anyone with experience with the 1958?

[Anonymous]

Love the look of the new Land Cruiser.

But yeah, $43K vs. $56K is quite the difference.

[Anonymous]

Agreed. Love the look, but it is a big price difference. But before I committed to the 4Runner I would want to know when they are going to change the look. Big changes this year for the bigger Lexus SUVs. The GX460, to me, now looks a lot like the 4Runner. Which makes me wonder if there is a updated model in the works for the 4Runner

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Love the look, but it is a big price difference. But before I committed to the 4Runner I would want to know when they are going to change the look. Big changes this year for the bigger Lexus SUVs. The GX460, to me, now looks a lot like the 4Runner. Which makes me wonder if there is a updated model in the works for the 4Runner

https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/4runner

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love the look of the new Land Cruiser.

But yeah, $43K vs. $56K is quite the difference.

I thought the Land Cruiser would be more than this, actually.

[Anonymous]

If you go with the 4Runner wait for the new one. The current one is ancient.

[Anonymous]

Any reason why you are not considering a used 200 series ?

I have had LCs and LX since 1994. Also a couple of GXs along the way.

1994 80 Series
1999 100 Series - 3 of them
2003 GX470
2004 LX470
2008 GX470
2011 LX570

I paid almost as much for an 80 series LC in 1994 as they want for a new LC today. They are not the same car.

Plus why get the first year of a new gen - for 56k you can get a nice used 200 series.

I still have an older LX470 and I keep my eyes out for a nice one but they are expensive when clean. And with the VTTI Engine they handle quite well.

Best for overall reliability is probably the 1999 LC 100 series. But it’s a dog with the old 3 speed transmission.

And while the clean 100 series are expensive the 570s are coming down. You can a nice 10 year old one with less than 100k for under 30k.

And I also seek out the older GX470s - they are not full size but they are exceptionally well built.

I realize this is not what you asked but if you like LCs those are my thoughts from 30 years of LC ownership.

Great trucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any reason why you are not considering a used 200 series ?

I have had LCs and LX since 1994. Also a couple of GXs along the way.

1994 80 Series
1999 100 Series - 3 of them
2003 GX470
2004 LX470
2008 GX470
2011 LX570

I paid almost as much for an 80 series LC in 1994 as they want for a new LC today. They are not the same car.

Plus why get the first year of a new gen - for 56k you can get a nice used 200 series.

I still have an older LX470 and I keep my eyes out for a nice one but they are expensive when clean. And with the VTTI Engine they handle quite well.

Best for overall reliability is probably the 1999 LC 100 series. But it’s a dog with the old 3 speed transmission.

And while the clean 100 series are expensive the 570s are coming down. You can a nice 10 year old one with less than 100k for under 30k.

And I also seek out the older GX470s - they are not full size but they are exceptionally well built.

I realize this is not what you asked but if you like LCs those are my thoughts from 30 years of LC ownership.

Great trucks.

Not OP but safety tech on those is non-existent and no Carplay

[Anonymous]

Also, Toyota's 4cyl + hybrid combo is not exactly an unproven powertrain

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you go with the 4Runner wait for the new one. The current one is ancient.

But it still looks good. Hopefully the new one won't look like another Highlander or Pilot.

[Anonymous]

Hey OP, I found your car in Manassas

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/4075ea74-c93a-4e93-8056-fb5a64a0f6c4/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any reason why you are not considering a used 200 series ?

I have had LCs and LX since 1994. Also a couple of GXs along the way.

1994 80 Series
1999 100 Series - 3 of them
2003 GX470
2004 LX470
2008 GX470
2011 LX570

I paid almost as much for an 80 series LC in 1994 as they want for a new LC today. They are not the same car.

Plus why get the first year of a new gen - for 56k you can get a nice used 200 series.

I still have an older LX470 and I keep my eyes out for a nice one but they are expensive when clean. And with the VTTI Engine they handle quite well.

Best for overall reliability is probably the 1999 LC 100 series. But it’s a dog with the old 3 speed transmission.

And while the clean 100 series are expensive the 570s are coming down. You can a nice 10 year old one with less than 100k for under 30k.

And I also seek out the older GX470s - they are not full size but they are exceptionally well built.

I realize this is not what you asked but if you like LCs those are my thoughts from 30 years of LC ownership.

Great trucks.

Not OP but safety tech on those is non-existent and no Carplay

LC people don't care about this because 1. we can drive and 2. audio is easy to upgrade.

[Anonymous]

The new LC is fun to drive. Are the 4Runners out yet? Pretty excited for those too.