Barnard vs Columbia women

[Anonymous]

My DD was advised by a friend’s sister (who goes to Columbia) not to apply to Barnard unless she can handle feeling “looked down upon” by Columbia women. She wasn’t trying to be mean- in fact, she suggested that she hates that there’s this attitude among her Columbia peers but wanted my DD to go in eyes wide open. Curious if others have heard or experienced this.

[Anonymous]

How often is this an actual issue in daily life?

[Anonymous]

If you’ve ever been on either side of this issue, you’d know it was real. W&L women versus Hollins women. Haverford women versus Bryn Mawr women. Google it.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it is true.

[Anonymous]

Honestly who cares? At the end of the day Barnard is a smaller closer knit community. They all have access to the same classes. It comes down to what environment the particular student thrives in

[Anonymous]

It’s a vibe…for some women, it won’t matter a whit. But for others, I can see how that attitude will be really be a bummer for four years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’ve ever been on either side of this issue, you’d know it was real. W&L women versus Hollins women. Haverford women versus Bryn Mawr women. Google it.

I went to Haverford- I do not think it was an issue at all. I had several good friends who went to Bryn Mawr.

[Anonymous]

Barnard grad here. Yes, it’s a thing but it didn’t bother me. FYI Barnard takes a huge a % of its class ED and honestly I wouldn’t recommend committing to ED there right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Barnard grad here. Yes, it’s a thing but it didn’t bother me. FYI Barnard takes a huge a % of its class ED and honestly I wouldn’t recommend committing to ED there right now.

Say more--because of the protests?

[Anonymous]

heard a story there was a recent investment banking analyst class, decked to a specific team - first day they are going around room doing introductions. One girl from barnard was yadda yadda this and that and referenced ivy league - a Cornell grad next to her mansplained wait a minute Barnard is not ivy!l league. Argument ensued - both called in to MD and let go next day. True story

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: My DD was advised by a friend’s sister (who goes to Columbia) not to apply to Barnard unless she can handle feeling “looked down upon” by Columbia women. She wasn’t trying to be mean- in fact, she suggested that she hates that there’s this attitude among her Columbia peers but wanted my DD to go in eyes wide open. Curious if others have heard or experienced this.

Go on a campus tour of each and visit many different departments. Ask questions. See how certain low-level /entry science courses are taught on Barnard's campus (for Columbia undergrads--ie those not ready for the normal starting level of chem or bio). Whether or not Columbia women and men say it out loud or not, Barnard is considered easier and the women not as bright. Same with the dual-foreign-school kids who are "General Studies' when they finally get to Columbia as juniors. Not right or nice or whatnot, but the dynamic is present. Talk to a lot of current students and you will see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How often is this an actual issue in daily life?

it is an undercurrent of all classes Barnard students take with Columbia.

[Anonymous]

OP here- thank you, this is helpful. DD loves the idea of a small women’s college with all of the opportunities of a large research university…but not if there are going to be eye rolls when she opens her mouth in class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How often is this an actual issue in daily life?

it is an undercurrent of all classes Barnard students take with Columbia.

19:26 here. This was not my experience at all. Some of my best friends were Columbia women.

I’d be concerned about either school right now because of the protests/hostility on campus that is negatively impacting the entire student community. I have a good friend whose child is a student there and last spring and this fall so far have been terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: My DD was advised by a friend’s sister (who goes to Columbia) not to apply to Barnard unless she can handle feeling “looked down upon” by Columbia women. She wasn’t trying to be mean- in fact, she suggested that she hates that there’s this attitude among her Columbia peers but wanted my DD to go in eyes wide open. Curious if others have heard or experienced this.

Go on a campus tour of each and visit many different departments. Ask questions. See how certain low-level /entry science courses are taught on Barnard's campus (for Columbia undergrads--ie those not ready for the normal starting level of chem or bio). Whether or not Columbia women and men say it out loud or not, Barnard is considered easier and the women not as bright. Same with the dual-foreign-school kids who are "General Studies' when they finally get to Columbia as juniors. Not right or nice or whatnot, but the dynamic is present. Talk to a lot of current students and you will see.

New poster, but isn’t General Studies much easier to get into vs. Barnard and is quite large? I would Barnard women would be more respected than that cohort.