Hardy vs. Deal?

[Anonymous]

Size, location, and high school feeder pattern aside, what are the differences between Hardy and Deal really in regards to course offerings, clubs, sports, activities, social environment, class sizes, relationships with teachers, etc? We are weighing offers at schools that feed to both, and would likely move into the neighborhood once we're in. On paper, we lean more to Hardy (and MacArthur) due to the sizes of the schools, but I know Deal has more cache and slightly higher test scores.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

there are a zillion threads on this. all mostly boils down to (a) deal is twice as large and (b) hardy only recently become a neighborhood dominant school.

that being said, pick the neighborhood you like better.

[Anonymous]

One thing that I didn’t know until my kid was at one of those two schools with friends at the other was how much easier it is to get involved with activities (teams, clubs, etc) at Hardy than at Deal. Because Deal is so much larger, the competition to be part of things can be fierce, whereas at Hardy there are many more clubs/teams with no or minimal cuts.

[Anonymous]

Hardy is small enough to be personal but large enough to make new friends and meet new people every year. It honestly comes down to the fact if you want more of a personal feel or a larger place with likely more options with sports and clubs.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn’t say Deal has more cache..especially in the last few years. I wouldn’t choose the school based on test scores or cache.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:there are a zillion threads on this. all mostly boils down to (a) deal is twice as large and (b) hardy only recently become a neighborhood dominant school.

that being said, pick the neighborhood you like better.

does "recently become a neighborhood dominant school" mean recently become more white?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there are a zillion threads on this. all mostly boils down to (a) deal is twice as large and (b) hardy only recently become a neighborhood dominant school.

that being said, pick the neighborhood you like better.

does "recently become a neighborhood dominant school" mean recently become more white?

yes. the neighborhoods that feed hardy are 75% white and 8% black. for kids, it is less white, but still over 50%. hardy is slowly becoming more like the surrounding neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

It means the IB population has grown (substantially over the past decade or so).

[Anonymous]

"Size, location, and high school feeder pattern aside" ?! Those are THE differences.

Size is a lot of what drives the greater range -- and the greater difficulty of access -- of sports and clubs at Deal.

For the details you want, comparing the information on the websites is your best bet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there are a zillion threads on this. all mostly boils down to (a) deal is twice as large and (b) hardy only recently become a neighborhood dominant school.

that being said, pick the neighborhood you like better.

does "recently become a neighborhood dominant school" mean recently become more white?

yes. the neighborhoods that feed hardy are 75% white and 8% black. for kids, it is less white, but still over 50%. hardy is slowly becoming more like the surrounding neighborhoods.

how do you know the white kids are not from other neighborhoods like, based on your numbers, the blk kids are?

interesting that that is the salient trait for yall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there are a zillion threads on this. all mostly boils down to (a) deal is twice as large and (b) hardy only recently become a neighborhood dominant school.

that being said, pick the neighborhood you like better.

does "recently become a neighborhood dominant school" mean recently become more white?

It means that to some degree, but it also means simply that more people live nearby.

Now more students walk to school, ride their bikes, or take the bus down Wisconsin. It means that more students have classmates, teammates, and clubmates that live within a couple of blocks, to commute with or to run into in the grocery store or to play basketball with after school. It means more parents can more easily get to Back-to-School night and PTO meetings and clean-up day.

[Anonymous]

See where you're more likely to find a house that you could buy. The supply for both areas is small and prices are high, so that may be your answer. Both are good choices! My kids are both at Deal: one might have done better in a smaller environment, but at this point, we're not going to change nor would he want to - just had we lived within that boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there are a zillion threads on this. all mostly boils down to (a) deal is twice as large and (b) hardy only recently become a neighborhood dominant school.

that being said, pick the neighborhood you like better.

does "recently become a neighborhood dominant school" mean recently become more white?

It means that to some degree, but it also means simply that more people live nearby.

Now more students walk to school, ride their bikes, or take the bus down Wisconsin. It means that more students have classmates, teammates, and clubmates that live within a couple of blocks, to commute with or to run into in the grocery store or to play basketball with after school. It means more parents can more easily get to Back-to-School night and PTO meetings and clean-up day.

Heh, OP doesnt live nearby either. or do whites from other neighborhoods
count as IBs? OP gave a list of traits but this is what it boils down to instead

[Anonymous]

Off topic but I see this “once we are in we will move to the neighborhood.” What drives this pattern? If you can afford to move to a Hardy or Deal IB home (buy or rent) why not just do it and then skip the lottery stress and claim your IB right to attend?