JD Vance - Career model

[Anonymous]

I’m very similar to Vance; grew up lower middle class with a dysfunctional family besotted with mental health and addiction issues (but it sounds like a LOT less violence or drama, mine was more low key alcoholism)

I ended up going to an elite school, but in science because I loved the subject, and my career so far has been pretty limited (some government labs after earning my MS). I would have loved to get into tech, but never cracked that code

Vance however transitioned into VC pretty easily right out of law school, before his rise to prominence with Hillbelly Elergy presented as a rubric to understanding Trumps ascendency. I can’t figure out if he had some legal skills or accomplishments that were groundwork for that VC pivot, but I feel our similar backgrounds would hold some lessons?

[Anonymous]

JD Vance was professionally adopted by celebrity Amy Chua, who with her husband runs a weird little coven at Yale LAw School. He broke into the pseudo intellectual celebrity circuit, which got him a fake job at a VC.

These people have no skills except hobnobbing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m very similar to Vance; grew up lower middle class with a dysfunctional family besotted with mental health and addiction issues (but it sounds like a LOT less violence or drama, mine was more low key alcoholism)

I ended up going to an elite school, but in science because I loved the subject, and my career so far has been pretty limited (some government labs after earning my MS). I would have loved to get into tech, but never cracked that code

Vance however transitioned into VC pretty easily right out of law school, before his rise to prominence with Hillbelly Elergy presented as a rubric to understanding Trumps ascendency. I can’t figure out if he had some legal skills or accomplishments that were groundwork for that VC pivot, but I feel our similar backgrounds would hold some lessons?

I mean the hints are pretty strong he got with Thiel in a sexual way.

[Anonymous]

What is VC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JD Vance was professionally adopted by celebrity Amy Chua, who with her husband runs a weird little coven at Yale LAw School. He broke into the pseudo intellectual celebrity circuit, which got him a fake job at a VC.

These people have no skills except hobnobbing.

Socializing effectively is a sign of high interpersonal intelligence.

E.Q. is more important for career success past a certain base level of smarts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is VC?

Venture Capital.

He had a fake VC job given to him by Peter Thiel. He was kind of a DEI pick. He never did any work and was never in the office, according to those who actually did and were.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Venture Capital.

He had a fake VC job given to him by Peter Thiel. He was kind of a DEI pick. He never did any work and was never in the office, according to those who actually did and were.

Source: I made it up lol

[Anonymous]

Amy Chua

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JD Vance was professionally adopted by celebrity Amy Chua, who with her husband runs a weird little coven at Yale LAw School. He broke into the pseudo intellectual celebrity circuit, which got him a fake job at a VC.

These people have no skills except hobnobbing.

+1. Amy Chua and her husband even wrote a book a few years before Hillbilly Elegy about how certain groups (e.g., Jews and Asians) do well in this country and certain others (e.g., Appalachians and Black people) don't. I didn't read the book, only reviews, but the reviews that I read universally panned the book as racist and factually inaccurate. I was reminded of their book when reading Hillbilly Elegy and then learned of the close relationship between Chua and Vance. But, hey, it made him a household name, and now we're all living with the consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m very similar to Vance; grew up lower middle class with a dysfunctional family besotted with mental health and addiction issues (but it sounds like a LOT less violence or drama, mine was more low key alcoholism)

I ended up going to an elite school, but in science because I loved the subject, and my career so far has been pretty limited (some government labs after earning my MS). I would have loved to get into tech, but never cracked that code

Vance however transitioned into VC pretty easily right out of law school, before his rise to prominence with Hillbelly Elergy presented as a rubric to understanding Trumps ascendency. I can’t figure out if he had some legal skills or accomplishments that were groundwork for that VC pivot, but I feel our similar backgrounds would hold some lessons?

Not accurate.

Hillbilly Elegy was part of his work at Thiel's firm.

You know how some people hire an underemployed person to camp out in line to get tickets to a show or to buy th new iPhone?

That's what Thiel hired Vance to do, to hold a place in government for Thiel to buy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JD Vance was professionally adopted by celebrity Amy Chua, who with her husband runs a weird little coven at Yale LAw School. He broke into the pseudo intellectual celebrity circuit, which got him a fake job at a VC.

These people have no skills except hobnobbing.

+1. Amy Chua and her husband even wrote a book a few years before Hillbilly Elegy about how certain groups (e.g., Jews and Asians) do well in this country and certain others (e.g., Appalachians and Black people) don't. I didn't read the book, only reviews, but the reviews that I read universally panned the book as racist and factually inaccurate. I was reminded of their book when reading Hillbilly Elegy and then learned of the close relationship between Chua and Vance. But, hey, it made him a household name, and now we're all living with the consequences.

With any luck, he'll continue his trajectory to drive the nail into Donald Trump's political coffin. Imagine that the past 8 years was undercover work to become Trump's metaphorical Brutus.

[Anonymous]

I actually had pretty much the same trajectory as Vance - I grew up really poor, single mom, kind of crazy household. I joined the Army right out of high school, spent 4 years in, got out, went to college, then a great graduate program - and a crummy government job. The only difference was I didn't go to law school so I think Vance, at least there, was smarter than me. I'm just shocked at how right wing he has become because I thought he'd land on the side of helping the poor rather than screwing the poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JD Vance was professionally adopted by celebrity Amy Chua, who with her husband runs a weird little coven at Yale LAw School. He broke into the pseudo intellectual celebrity circuit, which got him a fake job at a VC.

These people have no skills except hobnobbing.

Socializing effectively is a sign of high interpersonal intelligence.

E.Q. is more important for career success past a certain base level of smarts.

Interesting, I am a very personable and have always made friends easily, but I’m not conventionally attractive (basically by buddies say I belong in the lab since I look like Igor — I mean not deformed, but short with exaggerated features). Vance is super tall, which always helps having presence, but I am not sure how good looking? His wife is beautiful so I have to think that speaks a bit to his looks.

I guess finding a mentor was a crucial bit of sounds like; I think I always felt like I didn’t belong so was somewhat shy around authority — maybe that was his skill, he carried the confidence to be noticed by Chua?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually had pretty much the same trajectory as Vance - I grew up really poor, single mom, kind of crazy household. I joined the Army right out of high school, spent 4 years in, got out, went to college, then a great graduate program - and a crummy government job. The only difference was I didn't go to law school so I think Vance, at least there, was smarter than me. I'm just shocked at how right wing he has become because I thought he'd land on the side of helping the poor rather than screwing the poor.

From this thread I think if you went to law school you likely would have just ended up with a crummy government attorney job.

[Anonymous]

I think JD Vance is awful, but if you can’t get a high paying job out of Yale law school isn’t something horribly wrong?