WWYD Class Placement

[Anonymous]

My third grader was in pool for AAP but didn't get in. I assumed he would principal placed, but that is not the case. We got the letter in the spring that he was level 3 math and his test scores are in the 95-99 percentile.

Less than 10 kids are officially in the AAP program that didn't leave for a centered and at Open House we saw a few kids we know we're not even in pool or parent referred in the AAP class.

We are at a loss on how we didn't end up in and some others did knowing what we know.

How would you proceed? I already scheduled a meeting with the principal to discuss.

[Anonymous]

I would learn my lesson about making assumptions and apply again this year. There's not really anything else to do.

I certainly wouldn't make assumptions again and throw a fit with the administration based on what I think I know. If a respectful inquiry doesn't get you what you want, let it go.

[Anonymous]

That happened to us. Life went on and kid is a solid student entering his Senior year. Better GPA than some of his friends who were in AAP. Make it your hill to die on or move on. If he is too advanced for GenEd math, they will move him up for just AAP math and at the end of the day, by the time they get to HS, AAP is just accelerated math.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like your child had higher math scores then LA scores and the school thought Advanced Math was a better fit then AAP. Maybe other kids had more balanced test scores? The reality is that you don't know the situation or why they were selected.

All you can do, is apply for next year and see what happens.

[Anonymous]

I would talk to the school about applying for next year and make sure you hit all the deadlines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That happened to us. Life went on and kid is a solid student entering his Senior year. Better GPA than some of his friends who were in AAP. Make it your hill to die on or move on. If he is too advanced for GenEd math, they will move him up for just AAP math and at the end of the day, by the time they get to HS, AAP is just accelerated math.

I know in the grand scheme of things no one really remembers who was in 3rd grade AAP, but right now it feels like he isn't with his academic peer group.

I'm going to have a meeting with administration and figure out what the issue was and get our ducks in a row for next year's application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That happened to us. Life went on and kid is a solid student entering his Senior year. Better GPA than some of his friends who were in AAP. Make it your hill to die on or move on. If he is too advanced for GenEd math, they will move him up for just AAP math and at the end of the day, by the time they get to HS, AAP is just accelerated math.

I know in the grand scheme of things no one really remembers who was in 3rd grade AAP, but right now it feels like he isn't with his academic peer group.

I'm going to have a meeting with administration and figure out what the issue was and get our ducks in a row for next year's application.

Good luck with that. In the meantime, work on accepting the child you have and work on them succeeding and feeling confident in themselves. You may think you are hiding it well, but believe me, your child is most likely getting the vibes that you are disappointed and doesn't understand why they aren't living up to your expectations.

[Anonymous]

Both of mine were accepted through appeals supported by privately-administered testing. Did you not have that option?

[Anonymous]

Oh god, please don't be that parent. Try again next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That happened to us. Life went on and kid is a solid student entering his Senior year. Better GPA than some of his friends who were in AAP. Make it your hill to die on or move on. If he is too advanced for GenEd math, they will move him up for just AAP math and at the end of the day, by the time they get to HS, AAP is just accelerated math.

I know in the grand scheme of things no one really remembers who was in 3rd grade AAP, but right now it feels like he isn't with his academic peer group.

I'm going to have a meeting with administration and figure out what the issue was and get our ducks in a row for next year's application.

Unless you are in a Title I school or one with a significant low income or ESOL population, your child is absolutely in with his peer group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My third grader was in pool for AAP but didn't get in. I assumed he would principal placed, but that is not the case. We got the letter in the spring that he was level 3 math and his test scores are in the 95-99 percentile.

Less than 10 kids are officially in the AAP program that didn't leave for a centered and at Open House we saw a few kids we know we're not even in pool or parent referred in the AAP class.

We are at a loss on how we didn't end up in and some others did knowing what we know.

How would you proceed? I already scheduled a meeting with the principal to discuss.

Which test scores are 95-99? All sections of cogat? Iready? In-pool only gets your child a packet submission, it doesn’t guarantee placement.

You have no idea what the other kids’ scores, HOPE ratings and work samples look like, so you need to focus on your child and why they weren’t principal placed. Why does your child need full-time AAP and not just advanced math?

It sounds like you didn’t appeal the AAP decision? I’d reapply in the spring if you think your child needs the full-time program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That happened to us. Life went on and kid is a solid student entering his Senior year. Better GPA than some of his friends who were in AAP. Make it your hill to die on or move on. If he is too advanced for GenEd math, they will move him up for just AAP math and at the end of the day, by the time they get to HS, AAP is just accelerated math.

I know in the grand scheme of things no one really remembers who was in 3rd grade AAP, but right now it feels like he isn't with his academic peer group.

I'm going to have a meeting with administration and figure out what the issue was and get our ducks in a row for next year's application.

Unless you are in a Title I school or one with a significant low income or ESOL population, your child is absolutely in with his peer group.

We are in a Title I school with significant low income AND ESOL and my kid will be the only native English speaking kid in his class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My third grader was in pool for AAP but didn't get in. I assumed he would principal placed, but that is not the case. We got the letter in the spring that he was level 3 math and his test scores are in the 95-99 percentile.

Less than 10 kids are officially in the AAP program that didn't leave for a centered and at Open House we saw a few kids we know we're not even in pool or parent referred in the AAP class.

We are at a loss on how we didn't end up in and some others did knowing what we know.

How would you proceed? I already scheduled a meeting with the principal to discuss.

First of all, math is really all you should care about academically. The "deep learning" in other subjects is not deep at all. But the math acceleration is real.

Second, not being in AAP frequently affects parents more than the children.
We want our children to be resilient in the face of adversity. We should strive to be resilient as well. This is a relatively meaningless feather in a particularly meaningless cap.

The principal referrals are kind of bullshit. We really ought to get rid of them. But the fact that some kids don't deserve to be there doesn't mean your kid deserves to be there.
However, I do think there ought to be a test score above which the committee must accept a kid no matter what the GBRS says. I have met too many biased teachers (going both ways) to think that their assessments are unbiased.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My third grader was in pool for AAP but didn't get in. I assumed he would principal placed, but that is not the case. We got the letter in the spring that he was level 3 math and his test scores are in the 95-99 percentile.

Less than 10 kids are officially in the AAP program that didn't leave for a centered and at Open House we saw a few kids we know we're not even in pool or parent referred in the AAP class.

We are at a loss on how we didn't end up in and some others did knowing what we know.

How would you proceed? I already scheduled a meeting with the principal to discuss.

First of all, math is really all you should care about academically. The "deep learning" in other subjects is not deep at all. But the math acceleration is real.

Second, not being in AAP frequently affects parents more than the children.
We want our children to be resilient in the face of adversity. We should strive to be resilient as well. This is a relatively meaningless feather in a particularly meaningless cap.

The principal referrals are kind of bullshit. We really ought to get rid of them. But the fact that some kids don't deserve to be there doesn't mean your kid deserves to be there.
However, I do think there ought to be a test score above which the committee must accept a kid no matter what the GBRS says. I have met too many biased teachers (going both ways) to think that their assessments are unbiased.

Well said. Meaningless except math. OP, make sure your child stays on track to take the Iowa in 6th if that’s what’s appropriate for them. You don’t need LIV for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My third grader was in pool for AAP but didn't get in. I assumed he would principal placed, but that is not the case. We got the letter in the spring that he was level 3 math and his test scores are in the 95-99 percentile.

Less than 10 kids are officially in the AAP program that didn't leave for a centered and at Open House we saw a few kids we know we're not even in pool or parent referred in the AAP class.

We are at a loss on how we didn't end up in and some others did knowing what we know.

How would you proceed? I already scheduled a meeting with the principal to discuss.

First of all, math is really all you should care about academically. The "deep learning" in other subjects is not deep at all. But the math acceleration is real.

Second, not being in AAP frequently affects parents more than the children.
We want our children to be resilient in the face of adversity. We should strive to be resilient as well. This is a relatively meaningless feather in a particularly meaningless cap.

The principal referrals are kind of bullshit. We really ought to get rid of them. But the fact that some kids don't deserve to be there doesn't mean your kid deserves to be there.
However, I do think there ought to be a test score above which the committee must accept a kid no matter what the GBRS says. I have met too many biased teachers (going both ways) to think that their assessments are unbiased.

Well said. Meaningless except math. OP, make sure your child stays on track to take the Iowa in 6th if that’s what’s appropriate for them. You don’t need LIV for that.

Funny story, had a friend visit from New Hampshire and we were talking about how the depth in AAP consisted of knowing what the cash crops and primary exports of the 13 colonies just as my kid was walking by and so he asked my kid what the primary export was from New Hampshire and without missing a neat, my kid said "freedom!" My high school kid had no idea what the primary export was but he is smart enough to know that this is the exact right answer to give to my friend. He didn't learn that in AAP. I think it was tiktok.