Impossible to get from excepted to competitive service?

[Anonymous]

I’m trying to get out of the excepted service but want to stay a fed. Hardly anything is available and my only option is to apply with the general public and I’m sure my resume will never get through even though I have a lot of strong qualifications.

Is there any hope? Do I need to do more networking or would that even make a difference?

[Anonymous]

It is exactly as possible to get into the competitive service from the excepted service as it is for anyone from the outside.

You aren't at a disadvantage being excepted, but you aren't advantaged either.

But why is it so important for you to get into the competitive service? Once you are in and passed a trial period there is literally no difference.

[Anonymous]

OP here, I’m tired of the restrictions of my job field and would like the potential to telework even for a single day.

[Anonymous]

What restrictions? Teleworking has nothing to do with the excerpted service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What restrictions? Teleworking has nothing to do with the excerpted service.

It does when you can ONLY work in the office on certain computer systems.

[Anonymous]

Interagency agreements. Get a copy of your agency agreement from your HR and attach to your application when applying for jobs open only to current open competitive employees. Not every agency will accept it, I would say 50/50, but still better than applying through “open to public” announcements.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it is impossible.

Give up now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interagency agreements. Get a copy of your agency agreement from your HR and attach to your application when applying for jobs open only to current open competitive employees. Not every agency will accept it, I would say 50/50, but still better than applying through “open to public” announcements.

Thank you, I will look into that! —OP

[Anonymous]

My spouse did- excepted service attorney advisor 905 to a civil servant 301. GS 15

[Anonymous]

I've done it. Went from GS-14 excepted service to GS-15 civilian at another agency. But, it was entirely through networking. I took a rotation there, they valued me more and said they'd give me a billet and promote me. Developed a position description just for me and posted it on USAjobs. They ended up finding a loophole where they could direct hire me, so they cancelled the USAjobs. I've been there since 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What restrictions? Teleworking has nothing to do with the excerpted service.

It does when you can ONLY work in the office on certain computer systems.

The issue then is that you don't like your current job and you want a new one that allows telework. It isn't about competitive v. excepted service. There are thousands of full-time or near full-time remote workers in the excepted service.

[Anonymous]

Why do you want to be in the competitive service? I feel like those jobs hardly exist anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you want to be in the competitive service? I feel like those jobs hardly exist anymore.

The vast majority of federal jobs are competitive service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What restrictions? Teleworking has nothing to do with the excerpted service.

It does when you can ONLY work in the office on certain computer systems.

The issue then is that you don't like your current job and you want a new one that allows telework. It isn't about competitive v. excepted service. There are thousands of full-time or near full-time remote workers in the excepted service.

I just looked on USAJOBS, and the remote jobs for excepted service are almost exclusively non-reimbursable joint duty rotations. --OP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What restrictions? Teleworking has nothing to do with the excerpted service.

It does when you can ONLY work in the office on certain computer systems.

The issue then is that you don't like your current job and you want a new one that allows telework. It isn't about competitive v. excepted service. There are thousands of full-time or near full-time remote workers in the excepted service.

I just looked on USAJOBS, and the remote jobs for excepted service are almost exclusively non-reimbursable joint duty rotations. --OP

Huh?

So you are looking for a fully remote position? As opposed to the opportunity to telework a few times per week?

If that is the case there are currently 84 competitive service competition positions available and 23 excepted service competition positions available. The vast majority are for internal hiring or displaced employees with preference.