Jordan Chiles - must give back her bronze medal

[Anonymous]

So it sounds like the US has lost and they are not going to review the video evidence that the US submitted the inquiry in under 50 seconds and were not 4 seconds late after all. IOC is requesting that Jordan return her bronze medal for floor.

This means that the medal will go to Ana, even though there seems to be consensus that she gave the 5th best floor performance that day. The judges have reviewed the video and even Romania seems to agree that the judges erred by underscoring Jordan's turn by 0.1. The Romanians and others have also argued that Sabrina shouldn't have received a 0.1 penalty that presumably was for going out of bounds (though this hasn't been endorsed by the judges and there hasn't been a statement about how she was scored to make this crystal clear). So with those corrections Sabrina would get 3rd, Jordan would get 4th and Ana would be in 5th. Yet Ana is getting the bronze.

Do you think Ana should turn down the medal so it can go to her teammate, Sabrina? It seems her coaches and the other Romanian officials all think Sabrina should have gotten 3rd if she had been scored correctly. I just can't imagine Ana keeping the bronze and being able to look her teammates and coaches in the eye. So far she's said that she hopes that all three of them are on the podium at the next Olympics and that she knows how Jordan feels, but both of those sound pretty trite from a 5th place finisher who is benefitting from bad judging and a crazy ruling about being 4 seconds late.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think it really matters at this point. whomever gets it - Sabrina, Ana, or Jordyn - will always feel like there is an “asterisk” by that win. How unfortunate.

[Anonymous]

They really bungled this one.

[Anonymous]

If CAS had found that the inquiry into Sabrina's score should have been granted, then they could have given her back 0.1 to put her in third and let Jordan's score stand. Then they could have let Jordan keep her bronze and given a second to Sabrina, making Romania happy. Then at least people would feel like the medals were deserved, even if the process was as a mess. I think IOC had their hand forced by CAS when the only option not to take back a medal was to give out three medals because Jordan was moved to 5th, so they'd have to give them to 4th and 3rd--that was one too many.

[Anonymous]

Honestly the medals are the worst part of the Olympics. I say get rid of them. The performances are the achievements, not the medals. Goes double on the subjectively judged sports.

[Anonymous]

So messed up. It’s just wrong.

[Anonymous]

I'm starting to appreciate the soccer players and hockey players who refuse any award that's not a win.

"Do you want to be the best this year, or do you want to be the best EVER?"

"Never lose again!"

SHORESY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it really matters at this point. whomever gets it - Sabrina, Ana, or Jordyn - will always feel like there is an “asterisk” by that win. How unfortunate.

It totally matters. One gets the medal.

[Anonymous]

Gymnastics and ice skating havesome of the most bias judges with arbitrary scoring.
And there's the doping scandals to boot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it really matters at this point. whomever gets it - Sabrina, Ana, or Jordyn - will always feel like there is an “asterisk” by that win. How unfortunate.

It totally matters. One gets the medal.

+1. I will take a medal even if there are 4 asterisks after it.

[Anonymous]

People who get upset about wins and losses in a sport with judges crack me up.

[Anonymous]

The judges should be banned from ever judging another olympics event.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who get upset about wins and losses in a sport with judges crack me up.

The judging issues in these instances are all objective questions. These issues could happen in any sport, for instance, was her foot in bounds or out of bounds and did she complete a full 360 degrees. No one is challenging anything subjective. It's no different than issues with refs that come up in the NFL or questions about stepping out of a lane in track.

[Anonymous]

The Romanian and US teams agreed to have all three share, which IMO is clearly the correct result given the other Romanian gymnast was likely the correct third, but they have no mechanism to give it to her otherwise.

What a stupid mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it really matters at this point. whomever gets it - Sabrina, Ana, or Jordyn - will always feel like there is an “asterisk” by that win. How unfortunate.

It totally matters. One gets the medal.

Not the pp but I understand what he/she is saying. Under the circumstances, the person who gets the medal will feel a little less worthy had there not been this judging fiasco.