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Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims
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Anonymous
You're making that mistake where because you think and feel something, you assume it is universal, when it's not. YOU really really hate Blake and no amount of legal victories can change that. But most people are not following this case closely at all, are pretty ambivalent about it, and can be easily persuaded by the legal outcomes. So this loss is a huge blow for Baldoni from a PR perspective. Especially because a lot of people had reached a point of wishing both Blake and Justin would just go away. A judge dismissing Baldoni's whole case while Lively's still stands makes it seem like a judge has agreed with the public perception that this is all a colossal waste of time, but ONLY as to Baldoni's claims. It has the effect of giving Lively's claims more credence even though today's ruling wasn't even about her claims. It also offers Blake a chance to take a victory lap that feels sympathetic for once. She posted something on her Instagram stories that was focused on the groups who filed amicus briefs and noted that most people who face these kinds of retaliatory discrimination lawsuits don't have the means she has to fight them. So she comes off as standing up for the rights of other women. |
Anonymous
I could care less about celebrities and I hate Blake - so there you have it! It takes a lot to offend me, but she’s evil as far as I’m concerned. Also, before anyone starts using the misogyny card, I was team Amber Heard with the Depp stuff. |
Anonymous
When people accuse JB supporters of misogyny, there's no way of winning, so I'm just gonna say: Yeah, sure, I'm a misogynist. A big, fat misogynist. I just hate women SOO much. What now? |
Anonymous
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One notable thing that is getting skimmed over:
Those Rule 11 sanctions requests that Lively filed against many of the Wayfarer parties (not Baldoni but most of the others) are still outstanding. Today's ruling is an indication they might be granted. Liman was pretty ruthless in ripping apart the Baldoni complaint today, indicating he might be open to the argument that this was a frivolous lawsuit filed to harass Blake and force her to spend money. I think there's a better than 50% chance Liman will award sanctions of attorney's fees, and an outside chance he'll also award additional payments as a deterrent for this kind of lawsuit. If Lively gets money for those sanctions and then she and her lawyers announce it will all be donated to survivor organizations, that would be icing on the cake for me. |
Anonymous
Babe, we already knew. But admitting it is the first step. |
Anonymous
Thanks, hon. <3 I'm proud to be a misogynist, and I'm so glad you recognized that in me early on. |
Anonymous
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Also adding a note here that once again, none of the Baldoni supporters are looking at this loss and saying, huh, I was wrong. Sure one person said “I’ll admit this was a tough day” and another said “the defamation loss hurts” and immediately went into appeal mode lol.
But no Baldoni supporter has said Freedman’s strategy, looking back, was poor. Or that they themselves were wrong to argue that amendment was liberally granted and would clearly be granted here, even when Lively kept presenting scores and scores of evidence of the futility of such amendment. In fact, Baldoni supporters went on lecture Lively in how to proceed with her claims and how settlement was clearly going to be the best option, as always for them, but now a settlement for basically no money for each side although Lively’s claims are clearly worth tens of millions more than Baldoni’s now. Freedman made a lot of unforced errors here. We have been telling you for a while but you wouldn’t listen and apparently you still won’t. |
Anonymous
Rich, married to a hot guy who loves her, four healthy kids. She'll be alright. |
Anonymous
That's interesting. I hadn't thought about that. |
Anonymous
Married to a catty, closeted gay guy; trapped with four kids; failed to reach the success of her peers like Jlaw and Margot Robbie; no discernable talent in any category; reputation permanently in tatters. No wonder she went ballistic on JB. |
Anonymous
| I remember being lectured for even suggesting that Lively should at least wait for MTDs to be ruled on before entertaining settlement on Wayfarer's claims. And now there are no claims, and only two of them can even be amended (and they may not bother). I also argued she should at least get Wayfarer's financials first, given that they would be needed to assess damages, and was also told that was not necessary and she should just settle ASAP. |
Anonymous
Whether or not you're pro-Lively, I don't think she's every stuck her neck out for survivors in a legitimate way, other than for PR reasons. There's no reason to believe she would donate it to survivor organizations given how money hunger she and her husband are. Taylor, yes, because she's filthy rich and whether or not you believe it's for optics, Taylor does very much care about her feminist image in a more substantive way than Blake. Amber, yes, for similar reasons and I do believe she was actually abused by Depp even if there was "mutual abuse." |
Anonymous
The fact of the matter is, Blake’s behavior in August prompted either people to organically hate her and resurface bad interviews, or prompted Justin Baldoni in an act of defense over rumors the cast hated him, to hire a PR communications firm to help the public hate her. We don’t know what went down, but whatever it was, the fact remains the same, Blake has lost a ton of public support. She herself said she was suing because her hair care line suffered. I think it was an 80 or 90% drop in sales due to the bad press. There was just an industry article published, the products have not recovered. Target is going to drop the line - since target is the only one carrying the line, in short, Blake‘s line is dead or dying. She has not booked a role since it ends with us came out. People will point to her three upcoming projects on IMDb, they have been there since well before it ends with us, they are in predevelopment and they are going nowhere. She has lost millions of followers on Instagram, and I follow someone who tracks her followers and she’s lost another hundred thousand in the past couple hours. So no, this did not lead to a bunch of people flocking to support Blake. She’s actually lost some more followers since then. Is it a big deal? Probably not - she has 43 million. But she certainly is not gaining followers from this. Taylor Swift was a huge boost to her brand. Doing things like being seen in the Super Bowl suite with Taylor, out on double dates, etc., that is over now. That is the kind of thing that will boost the sales of hair care products. She has lost that and I’m sure that weighed on target severing ties with her. I have said it before on this thread. I think people will largely get over Ryan’s role in this and he will continue to be a big wig. I think people will be a lot less forgiving for Blake. We tend to be much harder on women. I personally don’t believe she was sexually harassed, but even if she was, I think this would’ve probably been really bad for her career sadly. I don’t agree with the way she went about it. I said before on this thread, she should’ve gone through appropriate protocols and she should not have run for a tell all in the New York Times. But that’s what she did and it has cost her in the public’s eye. I don’t think a lot of her Hollywood friends or other celebs shunned her because they were waiting for the outcome of this case. I think they saw where the public was headed and they wanted to distance themselves. I don’t see that going away. |
Anonymous
Huh? Why all the twisting?? I’m the poster who referenced a technicality and that’s because that was what people were saying in another forum. That she only had the defamation claims dismissed because of litigation privilege. Which is possibly true, in fact. We don’t know if her SH claims will hold up. It’s curious that you always have to twist things. For the record, I think today was a lively win. |
Anonymous
There were so many signs! The judge denying Baldoni's request for an extension out til after the MTD ruling but also clearly encouraging amendment beforehand! The judge granting NYT's stay request saying there was clear evidence for dismissal! All the collected evidence of insufficient facts in the sanctions motions! But no, the lawyers here (who kept telling Lively supporters that they couldn't possibly be lawyers lol) kept saying it was silly to think significant claims might get dismissed with prejudice, even though Lively/Reynolds were citing 2nd Circuit cases showing cases where dismissal was affirmed where granting leave to amend would have been futile. How stupid you have got to feel right now. I mean, I hope you do for all the many, many insults that you sent toward us. I hope you feel humbled. Of course you never really can tell what a judge will do. But you all were so very sure, and yet so very, very wrong. |