Gaza War, Part 3

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Globalists: Depopulation = Success

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Israel accidentally killed aid workers, and immediately apologized for doing so, in the midst of a war Hamas started. Hamas openly wishes it had been able to slaughter even more than 1,200 civilians on October 7th, and vows to continue such atrocities until the Jews and their state are annihilated. Hamas refuses to surrender and release the hostages they stole (including Americans), while rejecting multiple ceasefire offers. We *should* be aiding Israel, unequivocally and unconditionally. Bothsidesism is morally bankrupt.

We should never provide lethal weapons “unconditionally .”

I do not want my tax dollars being used to kill children, and I do not care what their religion or nationality are.

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It’s not more complicated than this

Your tax dollars always kill civilians somewhere. Obama killed hundreds of civilians with drones. Trump drone strikes killed civilians in Somalia. Not sure why you are just waking up now.

You missed the word “children”? Israel has now killed more children than any conflict in recent history.

Add to that: I don’t want my tax dollars used to kill American citizens. Not the American citizen hostages in Gaza (where hostages are being killed by the IDF bombing) not the American citizens who were in Gaza when the conflict started and were effectively abandoned, and not the American humanitarians who selflessly went to Gaza to feed starving civilians.

Hamas is equally, if not more responsible for every dead child in Gaza.

I didn’t vote for Hamas.
I didn’t vote in Israeli elections.

I am a U.S. citizen and my tax dollars are only buying weapons for one side of this conflict. It needs to stop. It needed to stop months ago, but this is the moment for our government to choose to stop funding the horrible deaths of children and Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:Both sides must be held accountable. Instead this government keeps funding BOTH sides! What else do you need to know?

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Israel accidentally killed aid workers, and immediately apologized for doing so, in the midst of a war Hamas started. Hamas openly wishes it had been able to slaughter even more than 1,200 civilians on October 7th, and vows to continue such atrocities until the Jews and their state are annihilated. Hamas refuses to surrender and release the hostages they stole (including Americans), while rejecting multiple ceasefire offers. We *should* be aiding Israel, unequivocally and unconditionally. Bothsidesism is morally bankrupt.

We should never provide lethal weapons “unconditionally .”

I do not want my tax dollars being used to kill children, and I do not care what their religion or nationality are.

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It’s not more complicated than this

Your tax dollars always kill civilians somewhere. Obama killed hundreds of civilians with drones. Trump drone strikes killed civilians in Somalia. Not sure why you are just waking up now.

You missed the word “children”? Israel has now killed more children than any conflict in recent history.

Add to that: I don’t want my tax dollars used to kill American citizens. Not the American citizen hostages in Gaza (where hostages are being killed by the IDF bombing) not the American citizens who were in Gaza when the conflict started and were effectively abandoned, and not the American humanitarians who selflessly went to Gaza to feed starving civilians.

Hamas is equally, if not more responsible for every dead child in Gaza.

This is the equivalent of, if some says that well Jews are also responsible for deaths during holocaust, not just Hitler. If only Jews had t provoked Hitler or amassed so much financial power in Germany. Is this where you want to go???

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Anonymous wrote:The aid workers were not Hamas and included an Australian, American, Canadian, UK, and Polish Citizen. They had told IDF of their movements that day and were traveling a zone that did not have active combat. IDF targets these aid workers bc they don’t want any aid in Gaza. How many mistakes can you make before people start to realize they do this on purpose.

The driver was Palestinian. Suppose he was Hamas - why didn’t Israel just target him specifically when the aid truck reached its destination?

He wasn't. The suppposed target was an unidentified guy with a gun at the warehouse. That guy never left the warehouse and they did not know whether or not he was Hamas. Odds are he wasn't because it would be very normal to have security at the food distribution warehouse in a war zone suffering from famine.

The 6 foreigners were considered acceptable collateral damage under that scenario even though it was known who they were, why they were there, and where they were. Each of the three cars, whixh were transmitting a location beacon and coordinating their movement with COGAT, were tracked and hunted down separately to ensure that all of the occupants were killed regardless.

UK should open a prosecution vs the IDF soldiers that murdered their citizens.

The Polish prosecutor from one of the victims hometown has opened an investigation. Also keep an eye out for the Spanish. They have a universal jurisdiction statute and Jose Andres obviously has ties there.

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Israel accidentally killed aid workers, and immediately apologized for doing so, in the midst of a war Hamas started. Hamas openly wishes it had been able to slaughter even more than 1,200 civilians on October 7th, and vows to continue such atrocities until the Jews and their state are annihilated. Hamas refuses to surrender and release the hostages they stole (including Americans), while rejecting multiple ceasefire offers. We *should* be aiding Israel, unequivocally and unconditionally. Bothsidesism is morally bankrupt.

We should never provide lethal weapons “unconditionally .”

I do not want my tax dollars being used to kill children, and I do not care what their religion or nationality are.

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It’s not more complicated than this

Your tax dollars always kill civilians somewhere. Obama killed hundreds of civilians with drones. Trump drone strikes killed civilians in Somalia. Not sure why you are just waking up now.

You missed the word “children”? Israel has now killed more children than any conflict in recent history.

Add to that: I don’t want my tax dollars used to kill American citizens. Not the American citizen hostages in Gaza (where hostages are being killed by the IDF bombing) not the American citizens who were in Gaza when the conflict started and were effectively abandoned, and not the American humanitarians who selflessly went to Gaza to feed starving civilians.

Hamas is equally, if not more responsible for every dead child in Gaza.

This is the equivalent of, if some says that well Jews are also responsible for deaths during holocaust, not just Hitler. If only Jews had t provoked Hitler or amassed so much financial power in Germany. Is this where you want to go???

Not the equivalent. October 7 was a mass violent pogrom of people laughing and celebrating ruthless slaughter, rape, poking eyeballs out, bragging that they killed Jews, not even getting into the hostages. Hamas’ charter states its goal to commit genocide by taking its land from the river to the sea. Hamas is evil, and it uses innocents to disguise and hide itself.

The Jews in Europe who were killed in the Holocaust were not evil. They didn’t kill anyone, didn’t announce their intention to kill anyone, and they didn’t kidnap anyone. Stop trying to weaponize the Holocaust against Jews. It’s anti-Semitic.

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Israel accidentally killed aid workers, and immediately apologized for doing so, in the midst of a war Hamas started. Hamas openly wishes it had been able to slaughter even more than 1,200 civilians on October 7th, and vows to continue such atrocities until the Jews and their state are annihilated. Hamas refuses to surrender and release the hostages they stole (including Americans), while rejecting multiple ceasefire offers. We *should* be aiding Israel, unequivocally and unconditionally. Bothsidesism is morally bankrupt.

We should never provide lethal weapons “unconditionally .”

I do not want my tax dollars being used to kill children, and I do not care what their religion or nationality are.

This x10000000

It’s not more complicated than this

Your tax dollars always kill civilians somewhere. Obama killed hundreds of civilians with drones. Trump drone strikes killed civilians in Somalia. Not sure why you are just waking up now.

You missed the word “children”? Israel has now killed more children than any conflict in recent history.

Add to that: I don’t want my tax dollars used to kill American citizens. Not the American citizen hostages in Gaza (where hostages are being killed by the IDF bombing) not the American citizens who were in Gaza when the conflict started and were effectively abandoned, and not the American humanitarians who selflessly went to Gaza to feed starving civilians.

Hamas is equally, if not more responsible for every dead child in Gaza.

No, these imbeciles managed to outdo Hamas. The massacres of civilians and the famine is on the Israeli government, going on a revenge in Gaza, with the IDF dropping gigantic bombs flattening blocks to hit one apartment, designating safe routes for civilians to leave snd then bombing them, shooting anything that moves (see how the three bare-chested, unarmed, white flag waving Israeli hostages were chases and shot dead-how many palestinians were massacred like that?). There was no attempt to limit the damage to civilians, on the opposite there was very much an intent to inflict a ton or pain. Congrats to Netanyhau, Smotrich, Ben G’Vir and company, they quickly manage to turn the world’s support after the horror of October 7 into disgust toward Israel. Several EU countries are planning to recognize a Palestinian state by the summer, Tory MPs in the Uk are demanding the stop or sales of arks to Israel. Heck, even pro-Israel strongman-loving Trump said that this is not exactly how he would have done it.

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Israel accidentally killed aid workers, and immediately apologized for doing so, in the midst of a war Hamas started. Hamas openly wishes it had been able to slaughter even more than 1,200 civilians on October 7th, and vows to continue such atrocities until the Jews and their state are annihilated. Hamas refuses to surrender and release the hostages they stole (including Americans), while rejecting multiple ceasefire offers. We *should* be aiding Israel, unequivocally and unconditionally. Bothsidesism is morally bankrupt.

We should never provide lethal weapons “unconditionally .”

I do not want my tax dollars being used to kill children, and I do not care what their religion or nationality are.

This x10000000

It’s not more complicated than this

Your tax dollars always kill civilians somewhere. Obama killed hundreds of civilians with drones. Trump drone strikes killed civilians in Somalia. Not sure why you are just waking up now.

You missed the word “children”? Israel has now killed more children than any conflict in recent history.

Add to that: I don’t want my tax dollars used to kill American citizens. Not the American citizen hostages in Gaza (where hostages are being killed by the IDF bombing) not the American citizens who were in Gaza when the conflict started and were effectively abandoned, and not the American humanitarians who selflessly went to Gaza to feed starving civilians.

Hamas is equally, if not more responsible for every dead child in Gaza.

This is the equivalent of, if some says that well Jews are also responsible for deaths during holocaust, not just Hitler. If only Jews had t provoked Hitler or amassed so much financial power in Germany. Is this where you want to go???

Not the equivalent. October 7 was a mass violent pogrom of people laughing and celebrating ruthless slaughter, rape, poking eyeballs out, bragging that they killed Jews, not even getting into the hostages. Hamas’ charter states its goal to commit genocide by taking its land from the river to the sea. Hamas is evil, and it uses innocents to disguise and hide itself.

The Jews in Europe who were killed in the Holocaust were not evil. They didn’t kill anyone, didn’t announce their intention to kill anyone, and they didn’t kidnap anyone. Stop trying to weaponize the Holocaust against Jews. It’s anti-Semitic.

Would this be the time to mention what's happening in the West Bank, who the Israeli Minister in charge of the police is, the Finance Minister's final solution manifesto, or the videos and Telegram channels of the IDF celebrating the deaths of babies?


The thing I hate most about this conflict is how both sides get really indignant about the things the other side says and does despite knowing that their side does and has done the same thing. For two groups of people obsessed with history, that each love to cite details of Ottoman Empire decrees and can recite a litany of offenses and atrocities commited against them, they have quite selective memories.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, the fallout from World Kitchen is bad. Pro-Israel folks are now highly critical of Netanyahu. The American people are turning away from Israel. They’re not supporting Hamas but they’re not supporting Israel.

If you'd have listened to us for one second, you'd have known we were highly critical of Netanyahu all along.

This doesn't make us turn against Israel. When you weren't shouting at us and calling us horrible names, we were trying to explain our point of view. But none of you listen.

You were “highly critical”, but you did nothing.

You have been the bystanders to this all along— the exact bystanders who have been condemned in every other horror of this and the last century.

what the f do you wnt us to do? march with the ceasefire now people who target jewish-owned businesses and are so polarizing that they're actually turning people away from their cause?

guess what - we're jewish, not israeli. and even israelis, protesting by the thousands, haven't been able to get netanyahu to change/

i guess we could target our space lasers right at bibi's house - you're right, we should have thought of that earlier.

Well, if Israelis, in a democracy, can't get rid of Bibi, how do you expect Gazans to get rid of Hamas?

THEY CAN WHEN THERE IS AN ELECTION

There are thousands and thousands of Israels out in the street protesting Netanyahu and protesting this war, and protesting to try to get the government to do more to get the hostages back.

Why do Israelis keep electing him?

why are americans ok with withholding their vote for biden over the war in Gaza, which they know will hand the election to Trump, who incited violence to overthrow the election he lost and is a known threat to democracy and women?

Why are Biden and the DNC elites willing to elect Trump rather than ditch supporting Bibi, Israel and the ongoing genocide in Gaza?

No, go back and answer the question. That will answer this question.

Apparently Biden and Democrats believe supporting Israel is more important than maintaining America's democracy.

Biden issued a powerful condemnation of the murder of the WCK workers, but I agree that he needs to do more. Democrats are also speaking out more and more. On the other side, let's not forget Republican congressman Tim Walberg's unabashed support for genocide when he suggested nuking Gaza to "get it over quick." Biden and the Democrats may be failing on this issue and it's certainly very frustrating, but the Republicans are much, much, much worse.

We're all processing the situation, and this war has led to major paradigm changes globally about Israel. Its image is forever tarnished. Let's give Biden and the Democrats a little more time to catch up. Nobody wants to believe how bad this is, but as the evidence mounts, it's near impossible to avoid the conclusion that Israel is conducting genocide. I hope the ICJ gets an affirmative ruling on genocide out soon and that informs the Biden administration's policies going forward.

A powerful condemnation. Wow, is the next step a tersely worded letter? He is giving bombs to an army in the midst of ethnic cleansing at best and genocide at worst. But I guess the powerful condemnation makes it ok

You are absolutely right -- a powerful condemnation is not enough. It's a long, long way from enough. It's just a lot better than we're going to get from Trump. We've got two options at present: bad and absolutely horrible.

Biden is already beyond absolutely horrible so Trump will not have that much left to work with.

There are Republicans who said they want to nuke Gaza outright. https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/31/politics/tim-walberg-gaza-nagasaki-hiroshima/index.html

There are Republicans want Palestinians kicked out of the US - https://zinke.house.gov/media/press-releases/zinke-introduces-bill-expel-palestinians-united-states

Can you name any pro-Palestine Republicans?

Can you name any Palestinian-Americans holding office as Republicans?

You might not like Biden but to try and claim "well it can't be much worse with the other side" only exposes your deep ignorance.

I’m a Democratic PP who decided today after a lot of contemplation to withhold my vote for Biden over Gaza. I vote in NY, would maybe feel different if I were in a swing state. I totally recognize that Republicans are worse on Israel and basically every other issue. I’m trying to do my part to force change on this issue in my own party. Voting for Biden isn’t going to do that. Reducing his margin in a safe state is really all I can do to signal that I am not happy with his Israel policy and make him pay for it.

I doubt he cares. It just signals to everyone you actually know in the US that you give no shits about women's rights at home.

Clearly Biden cares more about supporting Israel's extermination of Palestinians than he does about women's rights.

Biden is a fundamentally decent human being. Trump is not. Biden's problem is that he's been hanging onto the old pro-Israel paradigm most of us used to buy into, but the ground is shifting for him as well as for almost everyone else. Today, he threatened Netanyahu with "consequences" unless he (Netanyahu) addresses the humanitarian situation in Gaza.

"President Biden emphasized that the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation are unacceptable ... He made clear that US policy with respect to Gaza will be determined by our assessment of Israel’s immediate action on these steps...Biden also said Israel needed to 'announce and implement a series of specific, concrete, and measurable steps to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering, and the safety of aid workers.'"

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/biden-netanyahu-call-wck-deaths/index.html

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Anonymous wrote:Man, the fallout from World Kitchen is bad. Pro-Israel folks are now highly critical of Netanyahu. The American people are turning away from Israel. They’re not supporting Hamas but they’re not supporting Israel.

If you'd have listened to us for one second, you'd have known we were highly critical of Netanyahu all along.

This doesn't make us turn against Israel. When you weren't shouting at us and calling us horrible names, we were trying to explain our point of view. But none of you listen.

You were “highly critical”, but you did nothing.

You have been the bystanders to this all along— the exact bystanders who have been condemned in every other horror of this and the last century.

what the f do you wnt us to do? march with the ceasefire now people who target jewish-owned businesses and are so polarizing that they're actually turning people away from their cause?

guess what - we're jewish, not israeli. and even israelis, protesting by the thousands, haven't been able to get netanyahu to change/

i guess we could target our space lasers right at bibi's house - you're right, we should have thought of that earlier.

Well, if Israelis, in a democracy, can't get rid of Bibi, how do you expect Gazans to get rid of Hamas?

THEY CAN WHEN THERE IS AN ELECTION

There are thousands and thousands of Israels out in the street protesting Netanyahu and protesting this war, and protesting to try to get the government to do more to get the hostages back.

Why do Israelis keep electing him?

why are americans ok with withholding their vote for biden over the war in Gaza, which they know will hand the election to Trump, who incited violence to overthrow the election he lost and is a known threat to democracy and women?

Why are Biden and the DNC elites willing to elect Trump rather than ditch supporting Bibi, Israel and the ongoing genocide in Gaza?

No, go back and answer the question. That will answer this question.

Apparently Biden and Democrats believe supporting Israel is more important than maintaining America's democracy.

Biden issued a powerful condemnation of the murder of the WCK workers, but I agree that he needs to do more. Democrats are also speaking out more and more. On the other side, let's not forget Republican congressman Tim Walberg's unabashed support for genocide when he suggested nuking Gaza to "get it over quick." Biden and the Democrats may be failing on this issue and it's certainly very frustrating, but the Republicans are much, much, much worse.

We're all processing the situation, and this war has led to major paradigm changes globally about Israel. Its image is forever tarnished. Let's give Biden and the Democrats a little more time to catch up. Nobody wants to believe how bad this is, but as the evidence mounts, it's near impossible to avoid the conclusion that Israel is conducting genocide. I hope the ICJ gets an affirmative ruling on genocide out soon and that informs the Biden administration's policies going forward.

A powerful condemnation. Wow, is the next step a tersely worded letter? He is giving bombs to an army in the midst of ethnic cleansing at best and genocide at worst. But I guess the powerful condemnation makes it ok

You are absolutely right -- a powerful condemnation is not enough. It's a long, long way from enough. It's just a lot better than we're going to get from Trump. We've got two options at present: bad and absolutely horrible.

Biden is already beyond absolutely horrible so Trump will not have that much left to work with.

There are Republicans who said they want to nuke Gaza outright. https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/31/politics/tim-walberg-gaza-nagasaki-hiroshima/index.html

There are Republicans want Palestinians kicked out of the US - https://zinke.house.gov/media/press-releases/zinke-introduces-bill-expel-palestinians-united-states

Can you name any pro-Palestine Republicans?

Can you name any Palestinian-Americans holding office as Republicans?

You might not like Biden but to try and claim "well it can't be much worse with the other side" only exposes your deep ignorance.

I’m a Democratic PP who decided today after a lot of contemplation to withhold my vote for Biden over Gaza. I vote in NY, would maybe feel different if I were in a swing state. I totally recognize that Republicans are worse on Israel and basically every other issue. I’m trying to do my part to force change on this issue in my own party. Voting for Biden isn’t going to do that. Reducing his margin in a safe state is really all I can do to signal that I am not happy with his Israel policy and make him pay for it.

I doubt he cares. It just signals to everyone you actually know in the US that you give no shits about women's rights at home.

Clearly Biden cares more about supporting Israel's extermination of Palestinians than he does about women's rights.

Biden is a fundamentally decent human being. Trump is not. Biden's problem is that he's been hanging onto the old pro-Israel paradigm most of us used to buy into, but the ground is shifting for him as well as for almost everyone else. Today, he threatened Netanyahu with "consequences" unless he (Netanyahu) addresses the humanitarian situation in Gaza.

"President Biden emphasized that the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation are unacceptable ... He made clear that US policy with respect to Gaza will be determined by our assessment of Israel’s immediate action on these steps...Biden also said Israel needed to 'announce and implement a series of specific, concrete, and measurable steps to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering, and the safety of aid workers.'"

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/biden-netanyahu-call-wck-deaths/index.html

Biden has warned Netanyahu about 549 times, it’s a ploy to make fools of voters. He issues these statements then goes back in and sends more weapons to Israel. Also, I am not convinced about his decency, he has proven himself to be a two bit politician.

It will take U.S 5 minutes to put Netanyahu in his place, maybe 3 minutes. Netanyahu is nothing without our support, literally nothing. The entire world hates him and his actions have isolated Israel on the world stage. Who is Biden kidding??? Planes and truckloads of weapons were sent to Israel with 2 nights of 10/7, mind you without congressional approval. You think we can’t tell Netanyahu exactly how we want this to play? GMAFB!

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Israel accidentally killed aid workers, and immediately apologized for doing so, in the midst of a war Hamas started. Hamas openly wishes it had been able to slaughter even more than 1,200 civilians on October 7th, and vows to continue such atrocities until the Jews and their state are annihilated. Hamas refuses to surrender and release the hostages they stole (including Americans), while rejecting multiple ceasefire offers. We *should* be aiding Israel, unequivocally and unconditionally. Bothsidesism is morally bankrupt.

We should never provide lethal weapons “unconditionally .”

I do not want my tax dollars being used to kill children, and I do not care what their religion or nationality are.

This x10000000

It’s not more complicated than this

Your tax dollars always kill civilians somewhere. Obama killed hundreds of civilians with drones. Trump drone strikes killed civilians in Somalia. Not sure why you are just waking up now.

You missed the word “children”? Israel has now killed more children than any conflict in recent history.

Add to that: I don’t want my tax dollars used to kill American citizens. Not the American citizen hostages in Gaza (where hostages are being killed by the IDF bombing) not the American citizens who were in Gaza when the conflict started and were effectively abandoned, and not the American humanitarians who selflessly went to Gaza to feed starving civilians.

Hamas is equally, if not more responsible for every dead child in Gaza.

I didn’t vote for Hamas.
I didn’t vote in Israeli elections.

I am a U.S. citizen and my tax dollars are only buying weapons for one side of this conflict. It needs to stop. It needed to stop months ago, but this is the moment for our government to choose to stop funding the horrible deaths of children and Americans.

And? Do you think anything will change if you vote Republican instead of Democrat? It won't.

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Biden’s ambiguous threats are meaningless. As are Netanyahu’s pledges to investigate the IDF’s misbehavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, the fallout from World Kitchen is bad. Pro-Israel folks are now highly critical of Netanyahu. The American people are turning away from Israel. They’re not supporting Hamas but they’re not supporting Israel.

If you'd have listened to us for one second, you'd have known we were highly critical of Netanyahu all along.

This doesn't make us turn against Israel. When you weren't shouting at us and calling us horrible names, we were trying to explain our point of view. But none of you listen.

You were “highly critical”, but you did nothing.

You have been the bystanders to this all along— the exact bystanders who have been condemned in every other horror of this and the last century.

what the f do you wnt us to do? march with the ceasefire now people who target jewish-owned businesses and are so polarizing that they're actually turning people away from their cause?

guess what - we're jewish, not israeli. and even israelis, protesting by the thousands, haven't been able to get netanyahu to change/

i guess we could target our space lasers right at bibi's house - you're right, we should have thought of that earlier.

Well, if Israelis, in a democracy, can't get rid of Bibi, how do you expect Gazans to get rid of Hamas?

THEY CAN WHEN THERE IS AN ELECTION

There are thousands and thousands of Israels out in the street protesting Netanyahu and protesting this war, and protesting to try to get the government to do more to get the hostages back.

Why do Israelis keep electing him?

why are americans ok with withholding their vote for biden over the war in Gaza, which they know will hand the election to Trump, who incited violence to overthrow the election he lost and is a known threat to democracy and women?

Why are Biden and the DNC elites willing to elect Trump rather than ditch supporting Bibi, Israel and the ongoing genocide in Gaza?

No, go back and answer the question. That will answer this question.

Apparently Biden and Democrats believe supporting Israel is more important than maintaining America's democracy.

Biden issued a powerful condemnation of the murder of the WCK workers, but I agree that he needs to do more. Democrats are also speaking out more and more. On the other side, let's not forget Republican congressman Tim Walberg's unabashed support for genocide when he suggested nuking Gaza to "get it over quick." Biden and the Democrats may be failing on this issue and it's certainly very frustrating, but the Republicans are much, much, much worse.

We're all processing the situation, and this war has led to major paradigm changes globally about Israel. Its image is forever tarnished. Let's give Biden and the Democrats a little more time to catch up. Nobody wants to believe how bad this is, but as the evidence mounts, it's near impossible to avoid the conclusion that Israel is conducting genocide. I hope the ICJ gets an affirmative ruling on genocide out soon and that informs the Biden administration's policies going forward.

A powerful condemnation. Wow, is the next step a tersely worded letter? He is giving bombs to an army in the midst of ethnic cleansing at best and genocide at worst. But I guess the powerful condemnation makes it ok

You are absolutely right -- a powerful condemnation is not enough. It's a long, long way from enough. It's just a lot better than we're going to get from Trump. We've got two options at present: bad and absolutely horrible.

Biden is already beyond absolutely horrible so Trump will not have that much left to work with.

There are Republicans who said they want to nuke Gaza outright. https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/31/politics/tim-walberg-gaza-nagasaki-hiroshima/index.html

There are Republicans want Palestinians kicked out of the US - https://zinke.house.gov/media/press-releases/zinke-introduces-bill-expel-palestinians-united-states

Can you name any pro-Palestine Republicans?

Can you name any Palestinian-Americans holding office as Republicans?

You might not like Biden but to try and claim "well it can't be much worse with the other side" only exposes your deep ignorance.

I’m a Democratic PP who decided today after a lot of contemplation to withhold my vote for Biden over Gaza. I vote in NY, would maybe feel different if I were in a swing state. I totally recognize that Republicans are worse on Israel and basically every other issue. I’m trying to do my part to force change on this issue in my own party. Voting for Biden isn’t going to do that. Reducing his margin in a safe state is really all I can do to signal that I am not happy with his Israel policy and make him pay for it.

I doubt he cares. It just signals to everyone you actually know in the US that you give no shits about women's rights at home.

Clearly Biden cares more about supporting Israel's extermination of Palestinians than he does about women's rights.

Biden is a fundamentally decent human being. Trump is not. Biden's problem is that he's been hanging onto the old pro-Israel paradigm most of us used to buy into, but the ground is shifting for him as well as for almost everyone else. Today, he threatened Netanyahu with "consequences" unless he (Netanyahu) addresses the humanitarian situation in Gaza.

"President Biden emphasized that the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation are unacceptable ... He made clear that US policy with respect to Gaza will be determined by our assessment of Israel’s immediate action on these steps...Biden also said Israel needed to 'announce and implement a series of specific, concrete, and measurable steps to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering, and the safety of aid workers.'"

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/biden-netanyahu-call-wck-deaths/index.html

Biden is a bunch of BS. He is letting Blinken and his friends kill the democratic party. Dems are collateral damage at this point. White folks won't suffer under Trump, and American Jews know this, so they will stop at nothing.

POC will suffer.

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Israel accidentally killed aid workers, and immediately apologized for doing so, in the midst of a war Hamas started. Hamas openly wishes it had been able to slaughter even more than 1,200 civilians on October 7th, and vows to continue such atrocities until the Jews and their state are annihilated. Hamas refuses to surrender and release the hostages they stole (including Americans), while rejecting multiple ceasefire offers. We *should* be aiding Israel, unequivocally and unconditionally. Bothsidesism is morally bankrupt.

We should never provide lethal weapons “unconditionally .”

I do not want my tax dollars being used to kill children, and I do not care what their religion or nationality are.

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It’s not more complicated than this

Your tax dollars always kill civilians somewhere. Obama killed hundreds of civilians with drones. Trump drone strikes killed civilians in Somalia. Not sure why you are just waking up now.

You missed the word “children”? Israel has now killed more children than any conflict in recent history.

Add to that: I don’t want my tax dollars used to kill American citizens. Not the American citizen hostages in Gaza (where hostages are being killed by the IDF bombing) not the American citizens who were in Gaza when the conflict started and were effectively abandoned, and not the American humanitarians who selflessly went to Gaza to feed starving civilians.

Hamas is equally, if not more responsible for every dead child in Gaza.

No, these imbeciles managed to outdo Hamas. The massacres of civilians and the famine is on the Israeli government, going on a revenge in Gaza, with the IDF dropping gigantic bombs flattening blocks to hit one apartment, designating safe routes for civilians to leave snd then bombing them, shooting anything that moves (see how the three bare-chested, unarmed, white flag waving Israeli hostages were chases and shot dead-how many palestinians were massacred like that?). There was no attempt to limit the damage to civilians, on the opposite there was very much an intent to inflict a ton or pain. Congrats to Netanyhau, Smotrich, Ben G’Vir and company, they quickly manage to turn the world’s support after the horror of October 7 into disgust toward Israel. Several EU countries are planning to recognize a Palestinian state by the summer, Tory MPs in the Uk are demanding the stop or sales of arks to Israel. Heck, even pro-Israel strongman-loving Trump said that this is not exactly how he would have done it.

Hamas could have chosen to stay home on 10/7 and NONE of this would be happening. Logically, Hamas is equally, if not more responsible for every dead child in Gaza. Nothing you just posted changes that.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, the fallout from World Kitchen is bad. Pro-Israel folks are now highly critical of Netanyahu. The American people are turning away from Israel. They’re not supporting Hamas but they’re not supporting Israel.

If you'd have listened to us for one second, you'd have known we were highly critical of Netanyahu all along.

This doesn't make us turn against Israel. When you weren't shouting at us and calling us horrible names, we were trying to explain our point of view. But none of you listen.

You were “highly critical”, but you did nothing.

You have been the bystanders to this all along— the exact bystanders who have been condemned in every other horror of this and the last century.

what the f do you wnt us to do? march with the ceasefire now people who target jewish-owned businesses and are so polarizing that they're actually turning people away from their cause?

guess what - we're jewish, not israeli. and even israelis, protesting by the thousands, haven't been able to get netanyahu to change/

i guess we could target our space lasers right at bibi's house - you're right, we should have thought of that earlier.

Well, if Israelis, in a democracy, can't get rid of Bibi, how do you expect Gazans to get rid of Hamas?

THEY CAN WHEN THERE IS AN ELECTION

There are thousands and thousands of Israels out in the street protesting Netanyahu and protesting this war, and protesting to try to get the government to do more to get the hostages back.

Why do Israelis keep electing him?

why are americans ok with withholding their vote for biden over the war in Gaza, which they know will hand the election to Trump, who incited violence to overthrow the election he lost and is a known threat to democracy and women?

Why are Biden and the DNC elites willing to elect Trump rather than ditch supporting Bibi, Israel and the ongoing genocide in Gaza?

No, go back and answer the question. That will answer this question.

Apparently Biden and Democrats believe supporting Israel is more important than maintaining America's democracy.

Biden issued a powerful condemnation of the murder of the WCK workers, but I agree that he needs to do more. Democrats are also speaking out more and more. On the other side, let's not forget Republican congressman Tim Walberg's unabashed support for genocide when he suggested nuking Gaza to "get it over quick." Biden and the Democrats may be failing on this issue and it's certainly very frustrating, but the Republicans are much, much, much worse.

We're all processing the situation, and this war has led to major paradigm changes globally about Israel. Its image is forever tarnished. Let's give Biden and the Democrats a little more time to catch up. Nobody wants to believe how bad this is, but as the evidence mounts, it's near impossible to avoid the conclusion that Israel is conducting genocide. I hope the ICJ gets an affirmative ruling on genocide out soon and that informs the Biden administration's policies going forward.

A powerful condemnation. Wow, is the next step a tersely worded letter? He is giving bombs to an army in the midst of ethnic cleansing at best and genocide at worst. But I guess the powerful condemnation makes it ok

You are absolutely right -- a powerful condemnation is not enough. It's a long, long way from enough. It's just a lot better than we're going to get from Trump. We've got two options at present: bad and absolutely horrible.

Biden is already beyond absolutely horrible so Trump will not have that much left to work with.

There are Republicans who said they want to nuke Gaza outright. https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/31/politics/tim-walberg-gaza-nagasaki-hiroshima/index.html

There are Republicans want Palestinians kicked out of the US - https://zinke.house.gov/media/press-releases/zinke-introduces-bill-expel-palestinians-united-states

Can you name any pro-Palestine Republicans?

Can you name any Palestinian-Americans holding office as Republicans?

You might not like Biden but to try and claim "well it can't be much worse with the other side" only exposes your deep ignorance.

I’m a Democratic PP who decided today after a lot of contemplation to withhold my vote for Biden over Gaza. I vote in NY, would maybe feel different if I were in a swing state. I totally recognize that Republicans are worse on Israel and basically every other issue. I’m trying to do my part to force change on this issue in my own party. Voting for Biden isn’t going to do that. Reducing his margin in a safe state is really all I can do to signal that I am not happy with his Israel policy and make him pay for it.

I doubt he cares. It just signals to everyone you actually know in the US that you give no shits about women's rights at home.

Clearly Biden cares more about supporting Israel's extermination of Palestinians than he does about women's rights.

Biden is a fundamentally decent human being. Trump is not. Biden's problem is that he's been hanging onto the old pro-Israel paradigm most of us used to buy into, but the ground is shifting for him as well as for almost everyone else. Today, he threatened Netanyahu with "consequences" unless he (Netanyahu) addresses the humanitarian situation in Gaza.

"President Biden emphasized that the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation are unacceptable ... He made clear that US policy with respect to Gaza will be determined by our assessment of Israel’s immediate action on these steps...Biden also said Israel needed to 'announce and implement a series of specific, concrete, and measurable steps to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering, and the safety of aid workers.'"

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/biden-netanyahu-call-wck-deaths/index.html

Biden has warned Netanyahu about 549 times, it’s a ploy to make fools of voters. He issues these statements then goes back in and sends more weapons to Israel. Also, I am not convinced about his decency, he has proven himself to be a two bit politician.

It will take U.S 5 minutes to put Netanyahu in his place, maybe 3 minutes. Netanyahu is nothing without our support, literally nothing. The entire world hates him and his actions have isolated Israel on the world stage. Who is Biden kidding??? Planes and truckloads of weapons were sent to Israel with 2 nights of 10/7, mind you without congressional approval. You think we can’t tell Netanyahu exactly how we want this to play? GMAFB!

I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and have no connection to the Middle East. I have been an occasional pro-Palestinian poster on these threads (I skip several hundred posts at a time but seem to keep getting sucked back in).

I do think the idea of conditional aide is new from Biden. I imagine the huge pressure that is being applied on Feb WH from allies is having an effect.

No idea what will happen in Nov with the race. Will some folk in critical states sit out the election? Seems likely. I will vote for Biden - my daughter’s right to choose is paramount in my vote.