Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?

Most submersibles are certified (I.e., must meet strict design and safety standards). This one was not.

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So I guess tomorrow they will stop calling it a rescue mission. Good night dcum.

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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?

Many submersibles have gone down there. Even Titan has gone down before and returned.

Didn’t James Cameron go down there?

James Cameron went down 33 times. Was Titan less regulated than other subs?

It was totally unregulated, They chose not to be certified, unlike must submersible manufacturers .

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I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.

I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.

Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

I don't care about the cost of this rescue mission. The government wastes so much money on a daily basis, this is a drop in the bucket. It's hard to get excited about this. Our tax dollars are often wasted. So what.

You don't have to get excited about this but on balance I think that it would be better the billionaires to pay for their own search and rescue missions instead of the taxpayers.

I can think of lots of ways to spare taxpayers. This barely registers.

Okay, but I'm not wrong.

Well you are, because they won't be billed.

LOL I am not saying they will be billed.

You've decided that you're right about who should pay and who shouldn't. Who agrees with you? Not the Coast Guard and US Government. So, what exactly are you right about? The government wastes a shit ton of money every day. And you think stopping these rare rescues would make even the slightest difference?

A lot of people agree with me but that isn't even the point, I think that if you sit and think for one minute whether a billionaire--one individual who has a THOUSAND million dollars--should pay for a rescue operation, or if it should be the US government which is financed in large part through working people, you should pick the billionaire.

And in case this wasn't clear, this is just a thought exercise.

Whatever. Get over it.

Who the hell are you again? Oh, right. Nobody.

Just like you. But at least there are better people than you out there who do the right thing and don't make petty decisions because they are jealous of the rich. I'm glad they call the shots and not you.

Yes, we’re alllll super jealous of the people dying two miles underwater with a full bank account they’ll never use. You’re a moron.

They aren't taking their money with them. Their survivors will still have it. And they won't have to spend a penny on the rescue. And that makes you big time mad.

No, it doesn’t in the slightest, and that bothers you that it doesn’t. Good.

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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?

Most submersibles are certified (I.e., must meet strict design and safety standards). This one was not.

Most of the voyages that dive that deep are robot submersibles, no passengers aboard. The cameras are controlled from the people on the ship that deployed the submersible.

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Anonymous wrote:The Chilean mine rescue was way more fun that this. And it had a happy ending.

I don't remember that, but remember the Thai cave rescue of that soccer team?

Ah, that soccer team cave rescue. Cute kids, Elon sending a sub, then him getting into a spat with that rescuer... and they all survived. One of the boys passed away recently, though.

A "spat"? More like Elon behaving like the egomaniacal menace that he is and calling him a "pedo"...

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree that this isn't a traumatizing story. Obviously levels of trauma vary significantly and many many people are able to read (and even laugh ) about it without feeling any personal impact. But this is really tough to know about for "deep feeling" people, and it absolutely has a negative collective impact on mental health.

I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public. It's horrifying and I hope they are able to be saved. I can't imagine what their families are going through.

This is the best post and I agree 100%

Some people here should be ashamed of themselves.

The teen on board is especially upsetting.

Ok, but question for you two - how do you manage to get out of bed much less function on a daily basis with the amount of suffering and death that occurs every second around the world? I can think of many, many situations that are far worse for people (especially because they didn't put themselves in those situations!), that break my heart more than this. Yes, this is sad, it's sad when (almost anyone) dies, especially in a manner like this. But it's not remotely as sad as children dying of starvation, children being sold off into sex slavery, migrants dying trying to cross a body of water. I could go on and on. So if THIS is what you want to categorize as traumatizing, how do you handle everything else that's going on?

I’m the poster who originally posited that this is a potentially traumatic incident for many millions of people. Recent decades of research in psychology and neuroscience has clearly established that our brains are impacted by vicarious trauma, folks who work in fields where they are witness to traumatic experiences are clearly affected. Some people are affected more than others - there is now growing consensus that some people, perhaps ~30%, are highly sensitive people upon whom trauma had greater impact than others.

I actually *do* struggle every day with how to cope with psychological anguish I feel considering the suffering of others I have never met - victims of the war in Ukraine, starving children in the Sudan, girls and women raped and murdered all over the world as a weapon of war and/or misogyny.

In this case I am not traumatized so much by the loss of these five people but rather by the manner of the deaths - as the whole world contemplates whether they were blown to bits in a sudden depressurization or whether they are experiencing the hellish agony of a long slow descent into madness and suffocation.

They didn’t do this TO you. If only there was a way for you to not click on a website or watch this on the tv. I believe HGTV has no coverage of this at all.

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I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.

I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.

Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

I don't care about the cost of this rescue mission. The government wastes so much money on a daily basis, this is a drop in the bucket. It's hard to get excited about this. Our tax dollars are often wasted. So what.

You don't have to get excited about this but on balance I think that it would be better the billionaires to pay for their own search and rescue missions instead of the taxpayers.

I can think of lots of ways to spare taxpayers. This barely registers.

Okay, but I'm not wrong.

Well you are, because they won't be billed.

LOL I am not saying they will be billed.

You've decided that you're right about who should pay and who shouldn't. Who agrees with you? Not the Coast Guard and US Government. So, what exactly are you right about? The government wastes a shit ton of money every day. And you think stopping these rare rescues would make even the slightest difference?

A lot of people agree with me but that isn't even the point, I think that if you sit and think for one minute whether a billionaire--one individual who has a THOUSAND million dollars--should pay for a rescue operation, or if it should be the US government which is financed in large part through working people, you should pick the billionaire.

And in case this wasn't clear, this is just a thought exercise.

Whatever. Get over it.

Who the hell are you again? Oh, right. Nobody.

Just like you. But at least there are better people than you out there who do the right thing and don't make petty decisions because they are jealous of the rich. I'm glad they call the shots and not you.

Yes, we’re alllll super jealous of the people dying two miles underwater with a full bank account they’ll never use. You’re a moron.

They aren't taking their money with them. Their survivors will still have it. And they won't have to spend a penny on the rescue. And that makes you big time mad.

No, it doesn’t in the slightest, and that bothers you that it doesn’t. Good.

You’re the one complaining about tax dollars. Guess you changed your mind and are indifferent now. Glad you have come around.

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Communication with the sub is lost AND they don’t know where it is, 7 different ways to rise to the surface.
The question is, why HAVEN’T they?

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Anonymous wrote:Communication with the sub is lost AND they don’t know where it is, 7 different ways to rise to the surface.
The question is, why HAVEN’T they?

Why haven't they what? Even if they had a way to lift it, no one knows where the heck it is.

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is anyone keeping vigil tonight? i can't sleep thinking about the whereabouts of the submersible...

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Boeing says it was not a partner in designing the Titan. U of W says not partner designing the Titan.

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Anonymous wrote:The Chilean mine rescue was way more fun that this. And it had a happy ending.

I don't remember that, but remember the Thai cave rescue of that soccer team?

Oh man, you've got to look up the Chilean mine rescue. It was amazing.

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Anonymous wrote:Boeing says it was not a partner in designing the Titan. U of W says not partner designing the Titan.

The ceo sounds like a crook. I wonder if Boeing ever sent a cease & desist to stop using its name.

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Nargeolet might have predicted this. He describes what happens if you get stuck at Titanic's wreck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBTjV5bJC44