Trump trusted more than Biden on democracy among key swing-state voters

[Anonymous]

President Biden and his Democratic allies have cast his reelection campaign as a battle for the country’s survival, warning that a second Donald Trump presidency would present an existential threat to American democracy.

In speeches and campaign ads, Biden points to Trump’s efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, his incitement of an angry mob that ransacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and the former president’s boasts that he will use the powers of his office to punish his political enemies.
But that message may not be resonating with the voters Biden needs in order to win another term in the White House.
In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president, according to a poll by The Washington Post and the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University.


Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden. And most believe that the guardrails in place to protect democracy would hold even if a dictator tried to take over the country.

The results offer troubling indicators for Biden, who needs voters who may be unenthusiastic about his candidacy to decide they must reject Trump to preserve America’s system of representative government.
“Many Americans don’t recognize Biden’s custodianship of our democracy, which is a bad sign for his campaign,” said Justin Gest, a professor of policy and government at George Mason University.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/

Why do these voters trust Trump?

[Anonymous]

Too much censorship with Biden’s admin? Doesn’t make me feel like they’re trustworthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too much censorship with Biden’s admin? Doesn’t make me feel like they’re trustworthy.

What does Biden’s admin censor? Not trying to argue, just want your pov. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

What is a "Decider?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too much censorship with Biden’s admin? Doesn’t make me feel like they’re trustworthy.

What does Biden’s admin censor? Not trying to argue, just want your pov. Thanks.

NP. I’m not the PP but I am pretty convinced that the aggressive prosecution of Dr. Haim in Texas is a very serious political misstep by the Biden DOJ.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/doctor-charged-unauthorized-access-personal-information-pediatric-patients-texas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too much censorship with Biden’s admin? Doesn’t make me feel like they’re trustworthy.

What does Biden’s admin censor? Not trying to argue, just want your pov. Thanks.

NP. I’m not the PP but I am pretty convinced that the aggressive prosecution of Dr. Haim in Texas is a very serious political misstep by the Biden DOJ.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/doctor-charged-unauthorized-access-personal-information-pediatric-patients-texas

Republicans out here telling us they think HIPAA is a joke. You guys don’t know or understand what “aggressive prosecution” is, it just seems to be “average prosecution [of your sacred cows].”

[Anonymous]

I've lived here for the last 20 years so maybe January 6 is a more important issue to me than it is to the average swing state voter. Or maybe we're just in this unfortunate situation where no matter who's in charge, people are pissed off and look back fondly on the time when the other party was in power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've lived here for the last 20 years so maybe January 6 is a more important issue to me than it is to the average swing state voter. Or maybe we're just in this unfortunate situation where no matter who's in charge, people are pissed off and look back fondly on the time when the other party was in power.

+1 I agree that no matter how popular a president is, at some point everyone is done with him and wants new blood. That goes for presidents from both parties.

I agree that people are pissed off right now, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too much censorship with Biden’s admin? Doesn’t make me feel like they’re trustworthy.

What does Biden’s admin censor? Not trying to argue, just want your pov. Thanks.

NP. I’m not the PP but I am pretty convinced that the aggressive prosecution of Dr. Haim in Texas is a very serious political misstep by the Biden DOJ.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/doctor-charged-unauthorized-access-personal-information-pediatric-patients-texas

Republicans out here telling us they think HIPAA is a joke. You guys don’t know or understand what “aggressive prosecution” is, it just seems to be “average prosecution [of your sacred cows].”

Look, I’m not taking a position on the substance. But what I am telling you is that it’s a political misstep and feeds into the narrative that the Democrats use censorship, misuse of the judicial system, and threats of prison to quell political dissent. I’m not a Republican, either, but I’m not willfully blind like a lot of Democrats are.

A big percentage of the country thinks that Trump was politically prosecuted. I don’t agree, but a lot of people believe this. Now you have the DOJ going after someone who was apparently earnestly trying to blow the whistle on what a lot of voters consider medicalized child abuse? It feeds into the existing narrative, and builds what OP is talking about.

Hyperventilating about how the prosecution is correct legally is useless and not helpful. Biden has a serious problem in how he is perceived and it’s time for Democrats to be realistic about that.

[Anonymous]

Democrats have been a party of tyranny. Prosecute your opponents for long ignored missteps, while allowing your cronies to do the same thing. Everyone sees what’s going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats have been a party of tyranny. Prosecute your opponents for long ignored missteps, while allowing your cronies to do the same thing. Everyone sees what’s going on.

How can you say that republicans are not doing exactly that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too much censorship with Biden’s admin? Doesn’t make me feel like they’re trustworthy.

What does Biden’s admin censor? Not trying to argue, just want your pov. Thanks.

NP. I’m not the PP but I am pretty convinced that the aggressive prosecution of Dr. Haim in Texas is a very serious political misstep by the Biden DOJ.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/doctor-charged-unauthorized-access-personal-information-pediatric-patients-texas

Republicans out here telling us they think HIPAA is a joke. You guys don’t know or understand what “aggressive prosecution” is, it just seems to be “average prosecution [of your sacred cows].”

Look, I’m not taking a position on the substance. But what I am telling you is that it’s a political misstep and feeds into the narrative that the Democrats use censorship, misuse of the judicial system, and threats of prison to quell political dissent. I’m not a Republican, either, but I’m not willfully blind like a lot of Democrats are.

A big percentage of the country thinks that Trump was politically prosecuted. I don’t agree, but a lot of people believe this. Now you have the DOJ going after someone who was apparently earnestly trying to blow the whistle on what a lot of voters consider medicalized child abuse? It feeds into the existing narrative, and builds what OP is talking about.

Hyperventilating about how the prosecution is correct legally is useless and not helpful. Biden has a serious problem in how he is perceived and it’s time for Democrats to be realistic about that.

dp; I understood what you meant. I think that many democrats (like hyperventilating pp) choose to start complaining about republicans reflexively instead of discussing the issues on substance.

There has to be reasons why Trump is more trusted by the people sampled for this poll, and if people don’t want to discuss the possibilities, they should create their own thread to talk about Trump and republicans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats have been a party of tyranny. Prosecute your opponents for long ignored missteps, while allowing your cronies to do the same thing. Everyone sees what’s going on.

Perfect illustration of how this is possible - people have been brainwashed to accept this kind of twaddle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too much censorship with Biden’s admin? Doesn’t make me feel like they’re trustworthy.

What does Biden’s admin censor? Not trying to argue, just want your pov. Thanks.

NP. I’m not the PP but I am pretty convinced that the aggressive prosecution of Dr. Haim in Texas is a very serious political misstep by the Biden DOJ.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/doctor-charged-unauthorized-access-personal-information-pediatric-patients-texas

Republicans out here telling us they think HIPAA is a joke. You guys don’t know or understand what “aggressive prosecution” is, it just seems to be “average prosecution [of your sacred cows].”

Look, I’m not taking a position on the substance. But what I am telling you is that it’s a political misstep and feeds into the narrative that the Democrats use censorship, misuse of the judicial system, and threats of prison to quell political dissent. I’m not a Republican, either, but I’m not willfully blind like a lot of Democrats are.

A big percentage of the country thinks that Trump was politically prosecuted. I don’t agree, but a lot of people believe this. Now you have the DOJ going after someone who was apparently earnestly trying to blow the whistle on what a lot of voters consider medicalized child abuse? It feeds into the existing narrative, and builds what OP is talking about.

Hyperventilating about how the prosecution is correct legally is useless and not helpful. Biden has a serious problem in how he is perceived and it’s time for Democrats to be realistic about that.

dp; I understood what you meant. I think that many democrats (like hyperventilating pp) choose to start complaining about republicans reflexively instead of discussing the issues on substance.

There has to be reasons why Trump is more trusted by the people sampled for this poll, and if people don’t want to discuss the possibilities, they should create their own thread to talk about Trump and republicans.

Reality here - sorry, we all saw what happened on January 6th. There is nothing even remotely equivalent from Biden.