Raising third grader can’t identify vowels and consonants

Anonymous
Hello I bought a reading program for him to use this summer and the booklet asks a lot of questions to identify sounds and deceiver between vowels and consonants. I am horrible with this as I am dyslexic and English in a second language . Dh isn’t much help either. Our son has good grades in English and reads well. Should I be worried? Should I get a tutor to teach these concepts? We did games on IXL website and he seems to do well on those but it seems easier than the workbook we are going through.
Anonymous
Put a request for child to be evaluated for special education services ASAP.

I recommend Nessy, it is designed for kids with dyslexia.

Anonymous
Does he just not know the difference between vowels and consonants? That's basic memorization. If he's reading well, he should be able to learn which is which fairly easily.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Put a request for child to be evaluated for special education services ASAP.

I recommend Nessy, it is designed for kids with dyslexia.



Op here. He’s doing well with reading. I don’t think he has dyslexia but maybe it’s hard to know sometimes? He gets books in the mail and learns the tricky words through an app. We’ve been doing that for 2 years. He mostly learned everything at school . We did group tutoring here and there but not because school said he was behind. My sister teaches kindergarten and she said in the past a lot of kids would learn through memorizing but now they are pushing phonics more. I am very bad at pronunciation. I usually just avoid words I can’t sound out or look them up online. It hasn’t held me back too much but I would like better for my child of course.
Anonymous
All about reading used to have a free phonics app that might help you with letter sounds.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Put a request for child to be evaluated for special education services ASAP.

I recommend Nessy, it is designed for kids with dyslexia.



Op here. He’s doing well with reading. I don’t think he has dyslexia but maybe it’s hard to know sometimes? He gets books in the mail and learns the tricky words through an app. We’ve been doing that for 2 years. He mostly learned everything at school . We did group tutoring here and there but not because school said he was behind. My sister teaches kindergarten and she said in the past a lot of kids would learn through memorizing but now they are pushing phonics more. I am very bad at pronunciation. I usually just avoid words I can’t sound out or look them up online. It hasn’t held me back too much but I would like better for my child of course.


There is such a thing as stealth dyslexia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does he just not know the difference between vowels and consonants? That's basic memorization. If he's reading well, he should be able to learn which is which fairly easily.


Op here. Yes and the workbook asks stuff like ‘mark the vowel you hear in each word to show whether it has the long or short sound’

‘circle the consonant blends’

‘ on the blank before each word write the sound of the underlined letters

Examples: hauled , spoiled

And ‘ when a root word has a short vowel sound followed by only one consonant, double the final consonant before adding “ed” or “ing”

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does he just not know the difference between vowels and consonants? That's basic memorization. If he's reading well, he should be able to learn which is which fairly easily.


Op here. Yes and the workbook asks stuff like ‘mark the vowel you hear in each word to show whether it has the long or short sound’

‘circle the consonant blends’

‘ on the blank before each word write the sound of the underlined letters

Examples: hauled , spoiled

And ‘ when a root word has a short vowel sound followed by only one consonant, double the final consonant before adding “ed” or “ing”



You need to learn phonics so you can teach him properly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does he just not know the difference between vowels and consonants? That's basic memorization. If he's reading well, he should be able to learn which is which fairly easily.


Op here. Yes and the workbook asks stuff like ‘mark the vowel you hear in each word to show whether it has the long or short sound’

‘circle the consonant blends’

‘ on the blank before each word write the sound of the underlined letters

Examples: hauled , spoiled

And ‘ when a root word has a short vowel sound followed by only one consonant, double the final consonant before adding “ed” or “ing”



You need to learn phonics so you can teach him properly.


And the difference between "raising" and "rising".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does he just not know the difference between vowels and consonants? That's basic memorization. If he's reading well, he should be able to learn which is which fairly easily.


Op here. Yes and the workbook asks stuff like ‘mark the vowel you hear in each word to show whether it has the long or short sound’

‘circle the consonant blends’

‘ on the blank before each word write the sound of the underlined letters

Examples: hauled , spoiled

And ‘ when a root word has a short vowel sound followed by only one consonant, double the final consonant before adding “ed” or “ing”



You need to learn phonics so you can teach him properly.
.

Op here. That’s not going to happen. It’s going to drive me crazy.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does he just not know the difference between vowels and consonants? That's basic memorization. If he's reading well, he should be able to learn which is which fairly easily.


Op here. Yes and the workbook asks stuff like ‘mark the vowel you hear in each word to show whether it has the long or short sound’

‘circle the consonant blends’

‘ on the blank before each word write the sound of the underlined letters

Examples: hauled , spoiled

And ‘ when a root word has a short vowel sound followed by only one consonant, double the final consonant before adding “ed” or “ing”



You need to learn phonics so you can teach him properly.


And the difference between "raising" and "rising".


Not helpful. Move on if you can’t be nice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does he just not know the difference between vowels and consonants? That's basic memorization. If he's reading well, he should be able to learn which is which fairly easily.


Op here. Yes and the workbook asks stuff like ‘mark the vowel you hear in each word to show whether it has the long or short sound’

‘circle the consonant blends’

‘ on the blank before each word write the sound of the underlined letters

Examples: hauled , spoiled

And ‘ when a root word has a short vowel sound followed by only one consonant, double the final consonant before adding “ed” or “ing”



You need to learn phonics so you can teach him properly.


+1000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does he just not know the difference between vowels and consonants? That's basic memorization. If he's reading well, he should be able to learn which is which fairly easily.


Op here. Yes and the workbook asks stuff like ‘mark the vowel you hear in each word to show whether it has the long or short sound’

‘circle the consonant blends’

‘ on the blank before each word write the sound of the underlined letters

Examples: hauled , spoiled

And ‘ when a root word has a short vowel sound followed by only one consonant, double the final consonant before adding “ed” or “ing”



You need to learn phonics so you can teach him properly.


+1000


She doesn’t want to be his teacher for this since she’s not only dyslexic but English is also a second language. Stop
Anonymous
There is a big push towards phonics. Honestly, after the third grade, it goes out the door.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does he just not know the difference between vowels and consonants? That's basic memorization. If he's reading well, he should be able to learn which is which fairly easily.


Op here. Yes and the workbook asks stuff like ‘mark the vowel you hear in each word to show whether it has the long or short sound’

‘circle the consonant blends’

‘ on the blank before each word write the sound of the underlined letters

Examples: hauled , spoiled

And ‘ when a root word has a short vowel sound followed by only one consonant, double the final consonant before adding “ed” or “ing”



You need to learn phonics so you can teach him properly.
.

Op here. That’s not going to happen. It’s going to drive me crazy.



You're not too old to learn English phonics rules. Don't listen to anyone who says there are no rules. There are just lots of rules because the language comes from many other languages. English has a lot of loan words from French and Latin but the substrate language is Germanic. Learning the origin of words helps immensely. And the difference between a vowel and consonant is not a matter of memorizing as the other poster said. Your mouth opens differently for a vowel vs consonant. (English is not my native language either but I did study it much more formally than a typical language learner.) Helps to have a positive attitude.
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