JFD & QOSA feels weird

[Anonymous]

Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

We love JDF for our recreational swimmers but now have to try QOSA for the location. It looks like it is not as flexible as JDF in terms of make-up policies as there is only one week per session to makeup. May also have to downgrade from stealth team to team prep since we’re not competitive swimmers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

Seems that way to me too.

[Anonymous]

A great loss to many swim families. Not everyone seeks super competitive swimming. JFD was (is?) great in that they focused more on improvements of each swimmer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

If every one of his coaches left abruptly - people who had worked with/for him for years - keep in mind that he contributed to that dynamic, too. One pissed off coach leaving, whatever. All of them? Why is Joe the victim here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

If every one of his coaches left abruptly - people who had worked with/for him for years - keep in mind that he contributed to that dynamic, too. One pissed off coach leaving, whatever. All of them? Why is Joe the victim here?

The person running QOSA took all the coaches. So now Joe has no coaches and no pool time. Unclear to me if this person was sought out by the owners of QOSTC or the other way around and she completely screwed Joe over.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

If every one of his coaches left abruptly - people who had worked with/for him for years - keep in mind that he contributed to that dynamic, too. One pissed off coach leaving, whatever. All of them? Why is Joe the victim here?

The person running QOSA took all the coaches. So now Joe has no coaches and no pool time. Unclear to me if this person was sought out by the owners of QOSTC or the other way around and she completely screwed Joe over.

What about at Georgetown Prep? Is there any chance QOSA or Joe will coach there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

If every one of his coaches left abruptly - people who had worked with/for him for years - keep in mind that he contributed to that dynamic, too. One pissed off coach leaving, whatever. All of them? Why is Joe the victim here?

The person running QOSA took all the coaches. So now Joe has no coaches and no pool time. Unclear to me if this person was sought out by the owners of QOSTC or the other way around and she completely screwed Joe over.

"Took" them? As in, she held them at gunpoint and abducted them, and is now forcing them to work for QOSA and not JFD?

These are adults, capable of deciding with whom they want to work. You can spin your narrative all you want, but if *all* of the former JFD coaches chose to work with Shannon over Joe, that says as much about him as it does about her.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

If every one of his coaches left abruptly - people who had worked with/for him for years - keep in mind that he contributed to that dynamic, too. One pissed off coach leaving, whatever. All of them? Why is Joe the victim here?

The person running QOSA took all the coaches. So now Joe has no coaches and no pool time. Unclear to me if this person was sought out by the owners of QOSTC or the other way around and she completely screwed Joe over.

"Took" them? As in, she held them at gunpoint and abducted them, and is now forcing them to work for QOSA and not JFD?

These are adults, capable of deciding with whom they want to work. You can spin your narrative all you want, but if *all* of the former JFD coaches chose to work with Shannon over Joe, that says as much about him as it does about her.

She hired all the coaches. Is that better? OP is right, there is some shady stuff going on here.

[Anonymous]

Also by taking all the pool time, that effectively puts Joe out of business. Crappy thing to do to your former employer but everyone has their own standards I guess.

[Anonymous]

I heard a rumor earlier this year that QO was going to start their own team and stop leasing lane space to other teams like NCAP. Maybe this shakeup is part of that?

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

If every one of his coaches left abruptly - people who had worked with/for him for years - keep in mind that he contributed to that dynamic, too. One pissed off coach leaving, whatever. All of them? Why is Joe the victim here?

The person running QOSA took all the coaches. So now Joe has no coaches and no pool time. Unclear to me if this person was sought out by the owners of QOSTC or the other way around and she completely screwed Joe over.

"Took" them? As in, she held them at gunpoint and abducted them, and is now forcing them to work for QOSA and not JFD?

These are adults, capable of deciding with whom they want to work. You can spin your narrative all you want, but if *all* of the former JFD coaches chose to work with Shannon over Joe, that says as much about him as it does about her.

She hired all the coaches. Is that better? OP is right, there is some shady stuff going on here.

It's better if you acknowledge that these grown adults voluntarily accepted her offer of employment. And they certainly know Joe better than any of us do.

When I heard about this switch, I, too, though it seemed shady - but solely because when everyone leaves one person, chances are that one person did something to push them away. The subtle misogyny in this thread only reinforces that.

[Anonymous]

I heard Joe was offered to move but he refused even though he knew what that meant. I don’t think he is the victim at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard a rumor earlier this year that QO was going to start their own team and stop leasing lane space to other teams like NCAP. Maybe this shakeup is part of that?

Yes, this is related. QOSA is the team. JFD, NCAP, and Tibu(?) might all be high and dry.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else feeling like JFD to QOSA is dirty? I can’t get a clear answer from anyone about what happened or what is going on. It seems like Joe got the rug pulled from under him with every one of his coaches leaving and no more time at QO to have JF Dolphins.

If every one of his coaches left abruptly - people who had worked with/for him for years - keep in mind that he contributed to that dynamic, too. One pissed off coach leaving, whatever. All of them? Why is Joe the victim here?

The person running QOSA took all the coaches. So now Joe has no coaches and no pool time. Unclear to me if this person was sought out by the owners of QOSTC or the other way around and she completely screwed Joe over.

"Took" them? As in, she held them at gunpoint and abducted them, and is now forcing them to work for QOSA and not JFD?

These are adults, capable of deciding with whom they want to work. You can spin your narrative all you want, but if *all* of the former JFD coaches chose to work with Shannon over Joe, that says as much about him as it does about her.

She hired all the coaches. Is that better? OP is right, there is some shady stuff going on here.

It's better if you acknowledge that these grown adults voluntarily accepted her offer of employment. And they certainly know Joe better than any of us do.

When I heard about this switch, I, too, though it seemed shady - but solely because when everyone leaves one person, chances are that one person did something to push them away. The subtle misogyny in this thread only reinforces that.

Well Joe certainly has his quirks. It was maybe time he retired. Guess we will never know the full story.