I'm pretty sure that Obama will be a one termer

Anonymous
2 years is a long time to make this assertion and the GOP might probably just punt and rather pick a sacrificial lamb, however if a good strong candidate emerges he is done. The shine and luster has worn off and he seems more interested in photo ops, interviews and accolades than actually governing. Also this White House is absolutely TONE DEAF to what's happening out in middle America. It's not pretty out there. DC is such a bubble.
Anonymous
I didn't vote for him but after the election, I fully supported him and wanted him to do well, I mean who would not want the President to do well? It does seem if there is a solid different option, he would lose but the GOP needs to shed the Sarah Palin image and get back to a real candidate not one who can't be taken seriously. I have always liked JC Watts but not sure he will get back into politics.
Anonymous
People will vote their wallets as they always do. If the economy turns around, he'll get a second term. If not, then he'll likely be gone.
Anonymous
Folks will vote their pocketbook.

OP, what do you mean "TONE DEAF to middle America?" Do you think the GOP is any more understanding, or are you one of those voters who demands zero taxes and a full plethora of government services?

This is about the time folks need to be raising money and making side visits to Iowa/New Hampshire.

If the GOP picks Romney, Obama will be gone. He's somewhat of a flip-flopper, but is polished enough and sane enough to bring back the more libertarian-inclined latte drinkers.

Gingrich? He might

Huckabee? Depends on how much crazy comes forth from his mouth. He is probably the most convincing of the GOP candidates, however, about the plight of the underclass.

Palin? She will put her foot in her mouth enough and the kid gloves will come off during the primaries.

Pawlenty and the others -- not sure if any of them really have the name recognition + charm that is needed.

Also remember in 2012 the GOP Congress will be standing on trial as well (to some extent.) We all know how well the government shutdown worked for the GOP.

Obama will be bringing back some/most of the folks who registered and came out to vote in 2008. Kids who were 13-17 in 2008 don't seem like they're a hotbed of future Republican voters.
Anonymous
If their parents aren't working I am not sure Obama can count on their support or if they can't get a job themselves, I am not sure why you think that group of voters is a slam dunk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:2 years is a long time to make this assertion and the GOP might probably just punt and rather pick a sacrificial lamb, however if a good strong candidate emerges he is done. The shine and luster has worn off and he seems more interested in photo ops, interviews and accolades than actually governing. Also this White House is absolutely TONE DEAF to what's happening out in middle America. It's not pretty out there. DC is such a bubble.

What's the matter, OP? Bored this morning? Need to get attention from the outraged liberals? Yawn.
aprilmayjune
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I know that I fully supported him at first and was looking forward to all this "change"... I didn't know that the change was going to be for the worse.. I would love for things to turn around, and if they do, I would gladly vote for him if he did make a difference for the positive, but as it stands right now, I'd love to see him out of office right now, and him replaced by someone who might actually accomplish something.
Anonymous
aprilmayjune wrote:I know that I fully supported him at first and was looking forward to all this "change"... I didn't know that the change was going to be for the worse.. I would love for things to turn around, and if they do, I would gladly vote for him if he did make a difference for the positive, but as it stands right now, I'd love to see him out of office right now, and him replaced by someone who might actually accomplish something.


What are you hoping gets done? I'm not sure what the GOP is proposing that wasn't already done between 2001 and 2006 ... cut taxes, cut regulations, be business friendly.
aprilmayjune
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Obama's whole campaign was about change. Better economy, more jobs, better health care and the like. What of the things he has promised is anywhere close to being better? (and don't say health care reform that's a whole other topic that just sucks.)
Anonymous
I doubt that President McCain would have given us a better economy and more jobs by now either. I *know* he wouldn't have given us better health care because I voted against him because his health care plan was so lame and would have left my family in jeopardy.
Anonymous
Well, we're either starting a 40-year slide a la Britain after World War II or a lost decade or two a la Japan after 1990.

Your choice.
Anonymous
aprilmayjune wrote:I know that I fully supported him at first and was looking forward to all this "change"... I didn't know that the change was going to be for the worse.. I would love for things to turn around, and if they do, I would gladly vote for him if he did make a difference for the positive, but as it stands right now, I'd love to see him out of office right now, and him replaced by someone who might actually accomplish something.


You took the words right out of my mouth.
Anonymous
PP, not to be too mean but your previous post to me is exactly the problem with our political situation today. The President can't wave a magic wand and make things "better" especially on complex things like the economy and jobs. The choices are what policies you adopt that are intended to influence the outcome and cause the economy to improve. All of those things take time when you have had a massive recession. As the other poster wrote, do you like the Repub policies better? If so, then vote that way. But it is shortsighted to say that because things are not better that you will vote the complete opposite of what you voted the last time. On health care, Obama has almost entirely what he said he would do, so I do not get how if you voted for him you could be disappointed on health care reform. What is it that you think he should have done and could have done but has not done?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Folks will vote their pocketbook.

OP, what do you mean "TONE DEAF to middle America?" Do you think the GOP is any more understanding, or are you one of those voters who demands zero taxes and a full plethora of government services?

This is about the time folks need to be raising money and making side visits to Iowa/New Hampshire.

If the GOP picks Romney, Obama will be gone. He's somewhat of a flip-flopper, but is polished enough and sane enough to bring back the more libertarian-inclined latte drinkers.

Gingrich? He might

Huckabee? Depends on how much crazy comes forth from his mouth. He is probably the most convincing of the GOP candidates, however, about the plight of the underclass.

Palin? She will put her foot in her mouth enough and the kid gloves will come off during the primaries.

Pawlenty and the others -- not sure if any of them really have the name recognition + charm that is needed.

Also remember in 2012 the GOP Congress will be standing on trial as well (to some extent.) We all know how well the government shutdown worked for the GOP.

Obama will be bringing back some/most of the folks who registered and came out to vote in 2008. Kids who were 13-17 in 2008 don't seem like they're a hotbed of future Republican voters.


I'm an Independent and Obama garnered a lot of Independent votes and he can't win without that bloc. I suspect that I am only one among millions of Independents who are dissatisfied with his performance, or lack thereof.
Anonymous
He's going to be fine. He'll have us out of Iraq, the economy will be showing signs of growth again, he will have some successes in the bailouts, the TARP will be repaid, the more palatable parts of health care reform will kick in (with the less attractive ones kicking in way after election time), there will be no major scandals. His handling of crises like BP will look a lot better in retrospect than Katrina.

The only thing he can do to screw himself is to sleep around or balance the budget. Yes, you heard me and it pains me to say it, but it is true.

Deficit spending has yet to catch up with any presidential candidate. If he raises taxes, he's dead. If he cuts spending, despite what some people say, he's dead. If the economy grows and starts to cover the hole, that's fine but not necessary. No one gets booted for deficit spending. Reagan knew this. Bush knew this, but he screwed up a lot elsewhere.

I guess there is always the possibility that the economy will take another downward spiral, but it's not worth thinking about because Presidents cannot control that. It is the great random factor in presidential politics.
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