2024 Washington DC area College commits

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you pollyannas will learn the truth when your DC is a senior, if the DC is unhooked.

I think most people will be happy if their child can get into any college/university and be able to study at a higher level. Not everyone is so privileged.

Sidwell kids don’t have to worry about “any school” because they typically get into top 25s.

Which they could have done from literally any public or private in the area, given their parents' wealth and how Sidwell accepted them based on their smarts/legacy/connections/athletic talent, and so on.

This. I don’t understand why people think it’s the school and not the kid/family. It’s mind boggling.

Well then getting into Sidwell is an excellent predictor that bears results four years later. Still sounds like a good deal

The point is a smart/motivated/athletic/hooked kid coming from a well connected upper class family can get the same result coming from public. Why do you need to pay for Sidwell?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When most people say T25, they are referring to the top 25 National Research Universities as ranked by US News and World Report. I think Harvard or Princeton is #1. I think Emory is #24 in the latest version. This is what was referred to by most posters in this thread.

That’s not what I said when I posted. You didn’t read for understanding. I said top 25 colleges AND top 25 universities. My statements still stand about Sidwell sending over half of its graduating class to T25 colleges and universities. You don’t have to agree, but if you don’t you’re wrong.

These rankings are screwed AGAINST wealthy and predominately white colleges ie: Tulane and some others like BC etc.. that are known to have a higher than normal amount of wealthy students attending. Tulane dropped from 43 to 73 in one year without any explanation.

This is the criteria for USNWR ranking:
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings

They don't even consider class size which is why many of these very large public colleges that very diverse are making the cut - friends kids are in classes with 500 plus kids and many are not taught by professors.

Half of the top schools on this list are large publics with very very large classes and many have TA's teaching the classes. Lots of competition to get internships and be at the top with so many students. It becomes a very stressful environment at some of these colleges that are so large. Kids coming from small privates with direct access to teachers and advisors can be completely shocked at the environment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’re certainly entitled to that opinion, but how is it responsive to the question posed?

DP. Noone knows what you are talking about.

Once again, what’s your evidence that under half of Sidwell students are admitted to top 25s?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’re certainly entitled to that opinion, but how is it responsive to the question posed?

DP. Noone knows what you are talking about.

Once again, what’s your evidence that under half of Sidwell students are admitted to top 25s?

You are talking to the wrong person! ha I did not post to you about your rankings nor do I care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When most people say T25, they are referring to the top 25 National Research Universities as ranked by US News and World Report. I think Harvard or Princeton is #1. I think Emory is #24 in the latest version. This is what was referred to by most posters in this thread.

That’s not what I said when I posted. You didn’t read for understanding. I said top 25 colleges AND top 25 universities. My statements still stand about Sidwell sending over half of its graduating class to T25 colleges and universities. You don’t have to agree, but if you don’t you’re wrong.

These rankings are screwed AGAINST wealthy and predominately white colleges ie: Tulane and some others like BC etc.. that are known to have a higher than normal amount of wealthy students attending. Tulane dropped from 43 to 73 in one year without any explanation.

This is the criteria for USNWR ranking:
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings

They don't even consider class size which is why many of these very large public colleges that very diverse are making the cut - friends kids are in classes with 500 plus kids and many are not taught by professors.

Half of the top schools on this list are large publics with very very large classes and many have TA's teaching the classes. Lots of competition to get internships and be at the top with so many students. It becomes a very stressful environment at some of these colleges that are so large. Kids coming from small privates with direct access to teachers and advisors can be completely shocked at the environment.

On the contrary, kids from small private schools are better equipped to self-advocate and seek access to professors, so they’re more likely to try and wade through the bureaucratic crap at a large university than someone with less experience interacting one-on-one with their instructors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When most people say T25, they are referring to the top 25 National Research Universities as ranked by US News and World Report. I think Harvard or Princeton is #1. I think Emory is #24 in the latest version. This is what was referred to by most posters in this thread.

That’s not what I said when I posted. You didn’t read for understanding. I said top 25 colleges AND top 25 universities. My statements still stand about Sidwell sending over half of its graduating class to T25 colleges and universities. You don’t have to agree, but if you don’t you’re wrong.

These rankings are screwed AGAINST wealthy and predominately white colleges ie: Tulane and some others like BC etc.. that are known to have a higher than normal amount of wealthy students attending. Tulane dropped from 43 to 73 in one year without any explanation.

This is the criteria for USNWR ranking:
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings

They don't even consider class size which is why many of these very large public colleges that very diverse are making the cut - friends kids are in classes with 500 plus kids and many are not taught by professors.

Half of the top schools on this list are large publics with very very large classes and many have TA's teaching the classes. Lots of competition to get internships and be at the top with so many students. It becomes a very stressful environment at some of these colleges that are so large. Kids coming from small privates with direct access to teachers and advisors can be completely shocked at the environment.

On the contrary, kids from small private schools are better equipped to self-advocate and seek access to professors, so they’re more likely to try and wade through the bureaucratic crap at a large university than someone with less experience interacting one-on-one with their instructors.

Not what I am hearing from friends kids. TA's are teaching the classes. Can't even access professors. Hey but it ranks top 25 so who cares about the actual college experience if you have the ranking. No thanks!

[Anonymous]

They’re clearly not trying hard enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When most people say T25, they are referring to the top 25 National Research Universities as ranked by US News and World Report. I think Harvard or Princeton is #1. I think Emory is #24 in the latest version. This is what was referred to by most posters in this thread.

That’s not what I said when I posted. You didn’t read for understanding. I said top 25 colleges AND top 25 universities. My statements still stand about Sidwell sending over half of its graduating class to T25 colleges and universities. You don’t have to agree, but if you don’t you’re wrong.

These rankings are screwed AGAINST wealthy and predominately white colleges ie: Tulane and some others like BC etc.. that are known to have a higher than normal amount of wealthy students attending. Tulane dropped from 43 to 73 in one year without any explanation.

This is the criteria for USNWR ranking:
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings

They don't even consider class size which is why many of these very large public colleges that very diverse are making the cut - friends kids are in classes with 500 plus kids and many are not taught by professors.

Half of the top schools on this list are large publics with very very large classes and many have TA's teaching the classes. Lots of competition to get internships and be at the top with so many students. It becomes a very stressful environment at some of these colleges that are so large. Kids coming from small privates with direct access to teachers and advisors can be completely shocked at the environment.

On the contrary, kids from small private schools are better equipped to self-advocate and seek access to professors, so they’re more likely to try and wade through the bureaucratic crap at a large university than someone with less experience interacting one-on-one with their instructors.

Wishful thinking but not the reality - thousands and thousands of kids trying to get to the top - it is stressful and no professors at some of these large schools are not accessible - they are working on books and doing other things. would never send my kid to a large public in California, Florida or Texas under any circumstances. You get what you pay for and it is a lot of people elbowing each other out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly not trying hard enough.

You can be happy with your top 25 rankings but just know that most of our kids never even considered most of them and not because they didn't have the grades or scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s your evidence that under half of Sidwell students are admitted to top 25s?

41 of 119 are attending T25 (nobody knows everyone's acceptance options). 104 of 119 have reported. I can't speak for the 15 non reports but we all know that it's unlikely that all 15 were T25 - and I'd say it's unlikely that even 8 of them are T25.

Meanwhile - it is important to remember that most of the 41 are hooked. These outcomes say nothing about Sidwell's impact, the outcomes reflect the prevalence of hooked families at Sidwell. And, if you really care about college and are unhooked, do not look to these outcomes as your potential future outcome....most unhooked high achievers/high rigor land outside T25.

I don't think college placement should be your goal....but if it is...go in with eyes open. It's not likely your unhooked smart kid is going to be the exception. Admissions has changed in recent years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly not trying hard enough.

You can be happy with your top 25 rankings but just know that most of our kids never even considered most of them and not because they didn't have the grades or scores.

+1000

I know a kid who was pushed by their parents. Magnet programs, sports (unathletic kid). Got into a top school and HATED it. Is getting ready to graduate and won’t pursue a higher degree because they said they’ve been surrounded by cutthroat kids all their life and they’re just done. They want nothing to do with it anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly not trying hard enough.

You can be happy with your top 25 rankings but just know that most of our kids never even considered most of them and not because they didn't have the grades or scores.

+1000

I know a kid who was pushed by their parents. Magnet programs, sports (unathletic kid). Got into a top school and HATED it. Is getting ready to graduate and won’t pursue a higher degree because they said they’ve been surrounded by cutthroat kids all their life and they’re just done. They want nothing to do with it anymore.

This is real....and especially at Sidwell. While there will be groups of cut-throat kids at all schools that offer a high rigor track - Sidwell's culture permeates more broadly. Especially because there are many hooked kids that get into T25 despite not being in the high rigor math/science track...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your evidence that under half of Sidwell students are admitted to top 25s?

41 of 119 are attending T25 (nobody knows everyone's acceptance options). 104 of 119 have reported. I can't speak for the 15 non reports but we all know that it's unlikely that all 15 were T25 - and I'd say it's unlikely that even 8 of them are T25.

Meanwhile - it is important to remember that most of the 41 are hooked. These outcomes say nothing about Sidwell's impact, the outcomes reflect the prevalence of hooked families at Sidwell. And, if you really care about college and are unhooked, do not look to these outcomes as your potential future outcome....most unhooked high achievers/high rigor land outside T25.

I don't think college placement should be your goal....but if it is...go in with eyes open. It's not likely your unhooked smart kid is going to be the exception. Admissions has changed in recent years.

nobody cares about this. seriously nobody cares. good for Sidwell if true but just realize STA, Holton, GDS, NCS pretty much had the same results if you are considering it by this criteria. move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your evidence that under half of Sidwell students are admitted to top 25s?

41 of 119 are attending T25 (nobody knows everyone's acceptance options). 104 of 119 have reported. I can't speak for the 15 non reports but we all know that it's unlikely that all 15 were T25 - and I'd say it's unlikely that even 8 of them are T25.

Meanwhile - it is important to remember that most of the 41 are hooked. These outcomes say nothing about Sidwell's impact, the outcomes reflect the prevalence of hooked families at Sidwell. And, if you really care about college and are unhooked, do not look to these outcomes as your potential future outcome....most unhooked high achievers/high rigor land outside T25.

I don't think college placement should be your goal....but if it is...go in with eyes open. It's not likely your unhooked smart kid is going to be the exception. Admissions has changed in recent years.

Where are you getting 41? That’s incorrect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you pollyannas will learn the truth when your DC is a senior, if the DC is unhooked.

I think most people will be happy if their child can get into any college/university and be able to study at a higher level. Not everyone is so privileged.

Sidwell kids don’t have to worry about “any school” because they typically get into top 25s.

Which they could have done from literally any public or private in the area, given their parents' wealth and how Sidwell accepted them based on their smarts/legacy/connections/athletic talent, and so on.

This. I don’t understand why people think it’s the school and not the kid/family. It’s mind boggling.

Well then getting into Sidwell is an excellent predictor that bears results four years later. Still sounds like a good deal

The point is a smart/motivated/athletic/hooked kid coming from a well connected upper class family can get the same result coming from public. Why do you need to pay for Sidwell?

Because college admissions isn’t the primary consideration for many if not most families?