All schools should offer an all-virtual option

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some perfectly healthy, athletic kids who seemingly had recovered in 2020 from a mild or asymptomatic case of COVID are now presenting to clinics with long-haul COVID.

What kind of a weird virus is this?!?!?

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-07-13/for-kids-with-long-covid-clinic-help-can-be-hard-to-find

Not sure how weird it really is. Many viruses can cause sequelae that last for months, sometimes years. I had a respiratory virus more than 10 years ago that developed into a protracted bronchitis, and I suffered from fatigue and shortness of breath for more than a year afterwards. I also had IBS symptoms for more than a year after a norovirus infection, and was told by a gastroenterologist that it is not uncommon. Both eventually resolved.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.houstonpress.com/news/at-texas-childrens-some-kids-with-covid-need-ventilators-11610665

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/atlanta-school-quarantines-more-than-100-students-in-first-week-of-classes/C36L5A6RUJCQFLSS3JLU4LDBXE/

Thank you!
I have a draft post with reports on pediatric hospitalizations in 5 or 6 states, but am exhausted just thinking about the drama thread that would turn into.

Your Atlanta link is super interesting!

An Atlanta charter school will quarantine more than 100 students after two students and two employees tested positive for COVID-19 in the first week of classes.

In the days leading up to the first day of school, Drew tested more than 1,900 students and staff. That resulted in catching three additional positive cases among students before they entered campus, and two more staff cases.

And no word on whether any of those 100 quarantined students actually were infected by those four? That would be the important information.

It sets an example of what kind of disruption to expect in the upcoming school year as we switch from in person to home without sufficient devices.

What they obviously need to do is find a more sensible way to deal with positive test results, such as the UK did.

Funny you should mention the UK, because I read at least from 3 experts that they now believe it's the summer break from in-person school that drove the massive unnatural drop in cases of last week. So yeah, like the UK did.

Sweet does that mean we're all going to get an entire month of socially acceptable and traditional overseas vacation travel. It's not just families on school break that travel over the summer in Europe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some perfectly healthy, athletic kids who seemingly had recovered in 2020 from a mild or asymptomatic case of COVID are now presenting to clinics with long-haul COVID.

What kind of a weird virus is this?!?!?

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-07-13/for-kids-with-long-covid-clinic-help-can-be-hard-to-find

Not sure how weird it really is. Many viruses can cause sequelae that last for months, sometimes years. I had a respiratory virus more than 10 years ago that developed into a protracted bronchitis, and I suffered from fatigue and shortness of breath for more than a year afterwards. I also had IBS symptoms for more than a year after a norovirus infection, and was told by a gastroenterologist that it is not uncommon. Both eventually resolved.

Also "long covid" is very rare in kids. I understand that people read click-bait like that article, but I really object to it being posted on threads about making MAJOR decisions about education in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.houstonpress.com/news/at-texas-childrens-some-kids-with-covid-need-ventilators-11610665

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/atlanta-school-quarantines-more-than-100-students-in-first-week-of-classes/C36L5A6RUJCQFLSS3JLU4LDBXE/

Thank you!
I have a draft post with reports on pediatric hospitalizations in 5 or 6 states, but am exhausted just thinking about the drama thread that would turn into.

Your Atlanta link is super interesting!

An Atlanta charter school will quarantine more than 100 students after two students and two employees tested positive for COVID-19 in the first week of classes.

In the days leading up to the first day of school, Drew tested more than 1,900 students and staff. That resulted in catching three additional positive cases among students before they entered campus, and two more staff cases.

And no word on whether any of those 100 quarantined students actually were infected by those four? That would be the important information.

It sets an example of what kind of disruption to expect in the upcoming school year as we switch from in person to home without sufficient devices.

What they obviously need to do is find a more sensible way to deal with positive test results, such as the UK did.

Funny you should mention the UK, because I read at least from 3 experts that they now believe it's the summer break from in-person school that drove the massive unnatural drop in cases of last week. So yeah, like the UK did.

Because this statement was brought up in the Website Feedback as one to monitor "as totally unsupported," here's support https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/school-closures-covid-case-drop-b1890548.html

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.houstonpress.com/news/at-texas-childrens-some-kids-with-covid-need-ventilators-11610665

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/atlanta-school-quarantines-more-than-100-students-in-first-week-of-classes/C36L5A6RUJCQFLSS3JLU4LDBXE/

Thank you!
I have a draft post with reports on pediatric hospitalizations in 5 or 6 states, but am exhausted just thinking about the drama thread that would turn into.

Your Atlanta link is super interesting!

An Atlanta charter school will quarantine more than 100 students after two students and two employees tested positive for COVID-19 in the first week of classes.

In the days leading up to the first day of school, Drew tested more than 1,900 students and staff. That resulted in catching three additional positive cases among students before they entered campus, and two more staff cases.

And no word on whether any of those 100 quarantined students actually were infected by those four? That would be the important information.

It sets an example of what kind of disruption to expect in the upcoming school year as we switch from in person to home without sufficient devices.

What they obviously need to do is find a more sensible way to deal with positive test results, such as the UK did.

Funny you should mention the UK, because I read at least from 3 experts that they now believe it's the summer break from in-person school that drove the massive unnatural drop in cases of last week. So yeah, like the UK did.

Because this statement was brought up in the Website Feedback as one to monitor "as totally unsupported," here's support https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/school-closures-covid-case-drop-b1890548.html

It's the "unnatural" phrasing that I objected to. And you posted an article behind a paywall, not "3 experts." Slightly better but barely.

[Anonymous]

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Because this statement was brought up in the Website Feedback as one to monitor "as totally unsupported," here's support https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/school-closures-covid-case-drop-b1890548.html

Well, schools are closed in most of the US now and certainly were earlier this month. And, yet, here we are.

I don't think anyone is happy about the current situation. We all wish it was still late July when things looked great. We just acknowledge that kids can't be out of school and getting a fraction of an appropriate education in perpetuity. Virtual learning meant kids getting a 1/5 of common core standards for their grade level, a fraction of their teachers time and attention, and misery from a social emotional point for many many. It just can't keep happening, especially when this disease may be with us for years.

[Anonymous]

Late June, meant above.

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Anonymous wrote:Some perfectly healthy, athletic kids who seemingly had recovered in 2020 from a mild or asymptomatic case of COVID are now presenting to clinics with long-haul COVID.

What kind of a weird virus is this?!?!?

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-07-13/for-kids-with-long-covid-clinic-help-can-be-hard-to-find

Not sure how weird it really is. Many viruses can cause sequelae that last for months, sometimes years. I had a respiratory virus more than 10 years ago that developed into a protracted bronchitis, and I suffered from fatigue and shortness of breath for more than a year afterwards. I also had IBS symptoms for more than a year after a norovirus infection, and was told by a gastroenterologist that it is not uncommon. Both eventually resolved.

Also "long covid" is very rare in kids. I understand that people read click-bait like that article, but I really object to it being posted on threads about making MAJOR decisions about education in DC.

It’s so cute that you think policy is based off this thread. I used to teach at a white umc school and the only way that this thread shaped policy was my principal laughing at how people thought it mattered

[Anonymous]

I wish the Biden administration had put more muscle into a vaccination campaign through summer instead of declaring victory. How are we STILL at 50%? Also, what push is the FDA getting in steering under 12 vaccination? Everything has seemed very lackaidaisical since April .

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Because this statement was brought up in the Website Feedback as one to monitor "as totally unsupported," here's support https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/school-closures-covid-case-drop-b1890548.html

Well, schools are closed in most of the US now and certainly were earlier this month. And, yet, here we are.

I don't think anyone is happy about the current situation. We all wish it was still late July when things looked great. We just acknowledge that kids can't be out of school and getting a fraction of an appropriate education in perpetuity. Virtual learning meant kids getting a 1/5 of common core standards for their grade level, a fraction of their teachers time and attention, and misery from a social emotional point for many many. It just can't keep happening, especially when this disease may be with us for years.

This. Unless there is a disease MUCH more dangerous to kids than Covid, school needs to happen. We can’t disrupt kids’ education and lives for years because of an ultimately tiny risk of illness. We shouldn’t have done it last year. People have truly lost their minds during this pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am pretty sure this is what’s going to happen. There are what, four weeks until school opens? Day by day things are getting worse. All of you people posting that this isn’t feasible are going to be lucky if schools open at all.

Lol. Cocaine is a helluva drug

[Anonymous]

The DCPS email that came out on Friday seems to be setting the stage for virtual school. I’m probably reading between the lines too much but this paragraph stuck out at me:

“Throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, it has been the priority of DC Public Schools to prioritize health and safety while maximizing learning and promoting equity. The disruptive nature of the pandemic also requires us to be flexible to meet our reopening goals. We work closely with local health officials and follow federal guidance for school reopening.”

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Anonymous wrote:Some perfectly healthy, athletic kids who seemingly had recovered in 2020 from a mild or asymptomatic case of COVID are now presenting to clinics with long-haul COVID.

What kind of a weird virus is this?!?!?

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-07-13/for-kids-with-long-covid-clinic-help-can-be-hard-to-find

Not sure how weird it really is. Many viruses can cause sequelae that last for months, sometimes years. I had a respiratory virus more than 10 years ago that developed into a protracted bronchitis, and I suffered from fatigue and shortness of breath for more than a year afterwards. I also had IBS symptoms for more than a year after a norovirus infection, and was told by a gastroenterologist that it is not uncommon. Both eventually resolved.

Also "long covid" is very rare in kids. I understand that people read click-bait like that article, but I really object to it being posted on threads about making MAJOR decisions about education in DC.

It’s so cute that you think policy is based off this thread. I used to teach at a white umc school and the only way that this thread shaped policy was my principal laughing at how people thought it mattered

Thank god it isn't, as it would be steered by people with no ability to perform rational risk analysis. Hell, there are people in these threads who can't tell the difference between totals and rates.

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Anonymous wrote:Some perfectly healthy, athletic kids who seemingly had recovered in 2020 from a mild or asymptomatic case of COVID are now presenting to clinics with long-haul COVID.

What kind of a weird virus is this?!?!?

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-07-13/for-kids-with-long-covid-clinic-help-can-be-hard-to-find

Not sure how weird it really is. Many viruses can cause sequelae that last for months, sometimes years. I had a respiratory virus more than 10 years ago that developed into a protracted bronchitis, and I suffered from fatigue and shortness of breath for more than a year afterwards. I also had IBS symptoms for more than a year after a norovirus infection, and was told by a gastroenterologist that it is not uncommon. Both eventually resolved.

Also "long covid" is very rare in kids. I understand that people read click-bait like that article, but I really object to it being posted on threads about making MAJOR decisions about education in DC.

It’s so cute that you think policy is based off this thread. I used to teach at a white umc school and the only way that this thread shaped policy was my principal laughing at how people thought it mattered

Thank god it isn't, as it would be steered by people with no ability to perform rational risk analysis. Hell, there are people in these threads who can't tell the difference between totals and rates.

how about the one who thought 0.001 was 1/1000?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DCPS email that came out on Friday seems to be setting the stage for virtual school. I’m probably reading between the lines too much but this paragraph stuck out at me:

“Throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, it has been the priority of DC Public Schools to prioritize health and safety while maximizing learning and promoting equity. The disruptive nature of the pandemic also requires us to be flexible to meet our reopening goals. We work closely with local health officials and follow federal guidance for school reopening.”

That worried me too. DCPS would lose most people with means to leave if they flake again after so many promises and unnecessary closures and our home values would plummet.