Loudoun 07G ECNL vs TSJ FC VIRGINIA 07 GIRLS ACADEMY - Jefferson Cup - debate settled?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anyone without biases able to actually explain why ECNL is this and GA is that?

What makes who ?

ECNL is the top youth female soccer league in the world. The GA is a third tier national league

Why? Because you say so?

Or because of the size they have? GA Is former DA which was the top of the line. They folded because of money but their product gets picked in pro soccer and make it to the national squad. How many has ECNL the top female soccer league in the world produced?

Please, do not make me wait for an answer. I’ll wait....

Trick question. DA was only in existence for 3 years, and GA for one year. Thus, zero pro players and zero national team players have been produced by DA and GA.

All the good former DA teams are back in ECNL. Only Tophat and FCV remain in GA. And not because it is their preferred choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anyone without biases able to actually explain why ECNL is this and GA is that?

What makes who ?

ECNL is the top youth female soccer league in the world. The GA is a third tier national league

Why? Because you say so?

Or because of the size they have? GA Is former DA which was the top of the line. They folded because of money but their product gets picked in pro soccer and make it to the national squad. How many has ECNL the top female soccer league in the world produced?

Please, do not make me wait for an answer. I’ll wait....

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/ecnl-alums-account-for-62-percent-of-players-in-ncaa-womens-soccer-power-5-conferences/

Is this the trifecta FCV Parent destructoid-5000 blaster?
1) FCV wont attend Loudoun Showcase > FCV fully attended showcase
2) Loudoun 07s sweep aside FCV 07s for 4th consecutive time and in championship
3) FCV parent handing on for dear life to a dying brand like DA and gets smoked with facts that ECNL is overwhelmingly superior in every way

Rough 2021 for the Xanax-Grey Goose crowd.

Interesting! Once the xanax and grey goose wear out I want to inquire: why would ECNL not allow FCV to be part of the best league? They’re a better club than Loudoun with less resources. Any thoughts into this?

It doesn’t matter. They’re not in it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

Do you mean the old guard teams formed before Loudoun got ECNL?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

Those teams are obviously going to age out. FCV does not offer a large viable player pool moving forward. They have no rec program to speak of and they are more and more relying on recruiting to improve. Leagues prefer clubs with a documented player pool because it demonstrates viability and consistency.

FCV is one coach away from being a shell of itself. One coach leaves and it is over. Don't think it can happen? Look at BRYC. Look at where BRYC was and look at where BRYC is now.

The same can be said with McLean. But Loudoun? They have tremendous stability as a club. FCV does not offer stability, a boys side or even geographic assurance. Will they move to Springfield at some time? Will they stay at Evergreen? Will TSJ want to keep paying rent at Evergreen? Why would ECNL bother with such unpredictability?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

Do you mean the old guard teams formed before Loudoun got ECNL?

Don’t throw facts at them. It destroys their talking points.

Everyone knows that, back in the day when Loudoun was without ECNL, the better Loudoun players went to other clubs at the U13 year. The current Loudoun 07s are the first birth year where ECNL was an option if they stayed at Loudoun. Imagine how good FCV 07 would be if Loudoun’s top 07 players had joined them? That was how all those older FCV teams were formed. That pipeline is now over, FCV is stuck in a crappy league with poor competition, and the writing is on the wall for their future as the 07 and younger birth years continue to age. That’s why you see the desperate spin and salesmanship right now in this thread. It’s coming to an end.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

Those teams are obviously going to age out. FCV does not offer a large viable player pool moving forward. They have no rec program to speak of and they are more and more relying on recruiting to improve. Leagues prefer clubs with a documented player pool because it demonstrates viability and consistency.

FCV is one coach away from being a shell of itself. One coach leaves and it is over. Don't think it can happen? Look at BRYC. Look at where BRYC was and look at where BRYC is now.

The same can be said with McLean. But Loudoun? They have tremendous stability as a club. FCV does not offer stability, a boys side or even geographic assurance. Will they move to Springfield at some time? Will they stay at Evergreen? Will TSJ want to keep paying rent at Evergreen? Why would ECNL bother with such unpredictability?

No dog in this fight as I have no children but bunch of nephews and nieces that would make la Cosa Nostra look like a tiny speck.

What exactly do you label as tremendous stability? You know like anyone else in this community that were it not for the ECNL patch Loudoun would be 1/3 maybe 1/2 the size.

Having been around since ‘78 sure helps having millions of $ in rec fees but what do you really have to show for? Performance wise and coaching wise you can’t brag too much.

[Anonymous]

Loudoun is same size today as they were before they had ECNL. That part of your argument makes no sense

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

Those teams are obviously going to age out. FCV does not offer a large viable player pool moving forward. They have no rec program to speak of and they are more and more relying on recruiting to improve. Leagues prefer clubs with a documented player pool because it demonstrates viability and consistency.

FCV is one coach away from being a shell of itself. One coach leaves and it is over. Don't think it can happen? Look at BRYC. Look at where BRYC was and look at where BRYC is now.

The same can be said with McLean. But Loudoun? They have tremendous stability as a club. FCV does not offer stability, a boys side or even geographic assurance. Will they move to Springfield at some time? Will they stay at Evergreen? Will TSJ want to keep paying rent at Evergreen? Why would ECNL bother with such unpredictability?

No dog in this fight as I have no children but bunch of nephews and nieces that would make la Cosa Nostra look like a tiny speck.

What exactly do you label as tremendous stability? You know like anyone else in this community that were it not for the ECNL patch Loudoun would be 1/3 maybe 1/2 the size.

Having been around since ‘78 sure helps having millions of $ in rec fees but what do you really have to show for? Performance wise and coaching wise you can’t brag too much.

Sure, I mean, just being the largest club in Virginia, established since 1978, huge rec and pre travel program, they own their own fields other than than that, sure, a what do they have to show ECNL other than their first true A team incorporated in ECNL doing better than their neighbor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

Those teams are obviously going to age out. FCV does not offer a large viable player pool moving forward. They have no rec program to speak of and they are more and more relying on recruiting to improve. Leagues prefer clubs with a documented player pool because it demonstrates viability and consistency.

FCV is one coach away from being a shell of itself. One coach leaves and it is over. Don't think it can happen? Look at BRYC. Look at where BRYC was and look at where BRYC is now.

The same can be said with McLean. But Loudoun? They have tremendous stability as a club. FCV does not offer stability, a boys side or even geographic assurance. Will they move to Springfield at some time? Will they stay at Evergreen? Will TSJ want to keep paying rent at Evergreen? Why would ECNL bother with such unpredictability?

No dog in this fight as I have no children but bunch of nephews and nieces that would make la Cosa Nostra look like a tiny speck.

What exactly do you label as tremendous stability? You know like anyone else in this community that were it not for the ECNL patch Loudoun would be 1/3 maybe 1/2 the size.

Having been around since ‘78 sure helps having millions of $ in rec fees but what do you really have to show for? Performance wise and coaching wise you can’t brag too much.

Sure, I mean, just being the largest club in Virginia, established since 1978, huge rec and pre travel program, they own their own fields other than than that, sure, a what do they have to show ECNL other than their first true A team incorporated in ECNL doing better than their neighbor.

Except BRYC all other VA ECNL teams are doing much better than Loudoun with much less. And poof! Your argument is obliterated with simple facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

Those teams are obviously going to age out. FCV does not offer a large viable player pool moving forward. They have no rec program to speak of and they are more and more relying on recruiting to improve. Leagues prefer clubs with a documented player pool because it demonstrates viability and consistency.

FCV is one coach away from being a shell of itself. One coach leaves and it is over. Don't think it can happen? Look at BRYC. Look at where BRYC was and look at where BRYC is now.

The same can be said with McLean. But Loudoun? They have tremendous stability as a club. FCV does not offer stability, a boys side or even geographic assurance. Will they move to Springfield at some time? Will they stay at Evergreen? Will TSJ want to keep paying rent at Evergreen? Why would ECNL bother with such unpredictability?

No dog in this fight as I have no children but bunch of nephews and nieces that would make la Cosa Nostra look like a tiny speck.

What exactly do you label as tremendous stability? You know like anyone else in this community that were it not for the ECNL patch Loudoun would be 1/3 maybe 1/2 the size.

Having been around since ‘78 sure helps having millions of $ in rec fees but what do you really have to show for? Performance wise and coaching wise you can’t brag too much.

Sure, I mean, just being the largest club in Virginia, established since 1978, huge rec and pre travel program, they own their own fields other than than that, sure, a what do they have to show ECNL other than their first true A team incorporated in ECNL doing better than their neighbor.

Except BRYC all other VA ECNL teams are doing much better than Loudoun with much less. And poof! Your argument is obliterated with simple facts.

How is BRYC even still in ECNL. Doesn't seem like any of their teams across all of their age groups are competitive. Look at the seedings and results of their U14 and younger ages at Jeff Cup. ECNL should give the spot to a more competitive club, like FCV.

[Anonymous]

My favorite point is when FCV trolls come in with old guard talk... we are better today because of a woman drafted yesterday. LULZ The xanax clouds their judgement

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

Those teams are obviously going to age out. FCV does not offer a large viable player pool moving forward. They have no rec program to speak of and they are more and more relying on recruiting to improve. Leagues prefer clubs with a documented player pool because it demonstrates viability and consistency.

FCV is one coach away from being a shell of itself. One coach leaves and it is over. Don't think it can happen? Look at BRYC. Look at where BRYC was and look at where BRYC is now.

The same can be said with McLean. But Loudoun? They have tremendous stability as a club. FCV does not offer stability, a boys side or even geographic assurance. Will they move to Springfield at some time? Will they stay at Evergreen? Will TSJ want to keep paying rent at Evergreen? Why would ECNL bother with such unpredictability?

Naw. Take it away from BRYC and give it to anyone but FCV

No dog in this fight as I have no children but bunch of nephews and nieces that would make la Cosa Nostra look like a tiny speck.

What exactly do you label as tremendous stability? You know like anyone else in this community that were it not for the ECNL patch Loudoun would be 1/3 maybe 1/2 the size.

Having been around since ‘78 sure helps having millions of $ in rec fees but what do you really have to show for? Performance wise and coaching wise you can’t brag too much.

Sure, I mean, just being the largest club in Virginia, established since 1978, huge rec and pre travel program, they own their own fields other than than that, sure, a what do they have to show ECNL other than their first true A team incorporated in ECNL doing better than their neighbor.

Except BRYC all other VA ECNL teams are doing much better than Loudoun with much less. And poof! Your argument is obliterated with simple facts.

How is BRYC even still in ECNL. Doesn't seem like any of their teams across all of their age groups are competitive. Look at the seedings and results of their U14 and younger ages at Jeff Cup. ECNL should give the spot to a more competitive club, like FCV.

[Anonymous]

^--?? did you have a point to make or just trying to repeat what was said before?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL let FCV in when they consistently lose to another ECNL club 2 miles away? C'mon.

That’s one 14 year old team. Have you bothered checking where it matters? Above those ages? Prolly not. Lol

Those teams are obviously going to age out. FCV does not offer a large viable player pool moving forward. They have no rec program to speak of and they are more and more relying on recruiting to improve. Leagues prefer clubs with a documented player pool because it demonstrates viability and consistency.

FCV is one coach away from being a shell of itself. One coach leaves and it is over. Don't think it can happen? Look at BRYC. Look at where BRYC was and look at where BRYC is now.

The same can be said with McLean. But Loudoun? They have tremendous stability as a club. FCV does not offer stability, a boys side or even geographic assurance. Will they move to Springfield at some time? Will they stay at Evergreen? Will TSJ want to keep paying rent at Evergreen? Why would ECNL bother with such unpredictability?

No dog in this fight as I have no children but bunch of nephews and nieces that would make la Cosa Nostra look like a tiny speck.

What exactly do you label as tremendous stability? You know like anyone else in this community that were it not for the ECNL patch Loudoun would be 1/3 maybe 1/2 the size.

Having been around since ‘78 sure helps having millions of $ in rec fees but what do you really have to show for? Performance wise and coaching wise you can’t brag too much.

Sure, I mean, just being the largest club in Virginia, established since 1978, huge rec and pre travel program, they own their own fields other than than that, sure, a what do they have to show ECNL other than their first true A team incorporated in ECNL doing better than their neighbor.

Except BRYC all other VA ECNL teams are doing much better than Loudoun with much less. And poof! Your argument is obliterated with simple facts.

How is BRYC even still in ECNL. Doesn't seem like any of their teams across all of their age groups are competitive. Look at the seedings and results of their U14 and younger ages at Jeff Cup. ECNL should give the spot to a more competitive club, like FCV.

As other posts have intimated, FCV doesn't appear to have a player pool beyond their older, current ECNL age groups right now. BRYC does. And if ODSL folds, BRYC may finally be able to consolidate its best talent instead of how it is right now where it's spread across mixture of Academy and non-Academy travel teams in NCSL and ODSL etc. This would impact '13 and younger (i.e. newly forming travel teams) going forward the most, and maybe '12s although there is a full team's worth of '12s playing up with '11s across three non-Academy teams. Consolidate that pool with the Academy pool and in no way the worst in the area.