If DMV schools don't open in the fall, are you moving?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most of us considering moving have been thinking of moving for years. We're not from DC and our parents and families are elsewhere. We consistently wonder if the cost of living and congestion of DC are worth it. And we wonder if our kids should grow up around cousins and grandparents.
Factor in virtual school are we're like "what the heck are we still doing here?"
I know about a dozen families having this conversation plus others who have already left.

Same, a couple of our neighbors already left or are leaving, permanently. I ask myself every day why we are still here.

[Anonymous]

Yes, we are temporarily moving to Florida in late August if schools are not fully open here. Will be back when our DCPS school is fully open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not moving. DCPS DL is going fine for our 3rd grader and 1st grader. 3rd grader is self sufficient. 1st grader just needs some prompts with technology. Both do a couple of hours of virtual tutoring per week with 3 of their friends. The kids love sleeping-in.

We do some targeted outdoor/masked/distanced meet-ups so they get socialization. When I say "targeted" only families that are taking Covid precautions very seriously. Several families we have avoided since early in the pandemic have already gotten Covid, but they pushed the boundaries, seemingly just because they really, really don't like this.

But don't get me wrong -- I can't wait for in-person, so long as it is safe. It just seems like school opening is being forced at the worst time of the pandemic -- highest numbers and vaccine right around the corner. And I hate to say it, but the loudest proponents of "open now" seem to be really, really struggling with their kids being home.

Do you consider the 'targeted' family to be taking COVID precautions very seriously if they are meeting with people (your family)? Not meant as a snarky question, but I woudltn'.

Not a snarky question at all! Thanks for being socially responsible and taking Covid-19 seriously.

Targeted =

1) No outside child care -- nannies, daycare, babysitters.
2) Both parents work from home.
3) Parents don't go to grocery store -- curbside pickup and delivery.
4) Only meet outside for the kids. No indoor stuff. Always masked. No dinners/drinks, just park playdates for the kids.

It's not risk free, but careful, I think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not moving. DCPS DL is going fine for our 3rd grader and 1st grader. 3rd grader is self sufficient. 1st grader just needs some prompts with technology. Both do a couple of hours of virtual tutoring per week with 3 of their friends. The kids love sleeping-in.

We do some targeted outdoor/masked/distanced meet-ups so they get socialization. When I say "targeted" only families that are taking Covid precautions very seriously. Several families we have avoided since early in the pandemic have already gotten Covid, but they pushed the boundaries, seemingly just because they really, really don't like this.

But don't get me wrong -- I can't wait for in-person, so long as it is safe. It just seems like school opening is being forced at the worst time of the pandemic -- highest numbers and vaccine right around the corner. And I hate to say it, but the loudest proponents of "open now" seem to be really, really struggling with their kids being home.

Do you consider the 'targeted' family to be taking COVID precautions very seriously if they are meeting with people (your family)? Not meant as a snarky question, but I woudltn'.

Not a snarky question at all! Thanks for being socially responsible and taking Covid-19 seriously.

Targeted =

1) No outside child care -- nannies, daycare, babysitters.
2) Both parents work from home.
3) Parents don't go to grocery store -- curbside pickup and delivery.
4) Only meet outside for the kids. No indoor stuff. Always masked. No dinners/drinks, just park playdates for the kids.


It's not risk free, but careful, I think.

It’s fine to go grocery shopping. It’s not fine to have play dates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love this thread, honestly if you all leave that’d be great. Hopefully we could have smaller class sizes and children would get more help once they are back in person.
And you’d get in person eqrly in another state or private, win win.

Neat. You have no idea how funding works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 more adults in DCPS are positive.

Yeah - if cares with small numbers can't stop spread why would schools open not be infestation hubs.

BTW schools only provide 7% of learning to a child. But you keep screaming that you are doing teacher's jobs.

And you have evidence that these 4 adults caught it at work? Bc that is probably right in line with community spread levels right now and actually disproves your point.

Also, what are you on about? Just no.

ooo as an education researcher, I would love to see the source of this context-free 7%! somebody please link me, as this is outside of my literature knowledge.

[Anonymous]

https://www.masslive.com/coronavirus/2021/01/523-students-407-staffers-positive-for-covid-in-massachusetts-schools-in-last-week.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so if its only staff - they are in the same building; staff are the ones babysitting in our cares classrooms and if one of those teachers gets sicks who then watches the kid if there isn't a back up.

just because you want it doesn't mean it works

one teacher alone in a school with 11 kids - she gets food poisoning what then - she calls 911 and cops watch the kids until the parents come?

and these are little kids

in normal times - the principal or janitor or another adult could mind the children and calls parents but we aren't in normal times so if these staff got it from all this clubbing and indoor eating you think they are doing then what?

we aren't five teachers deep to open and have general life happen

wheeew that was a lot of fun gibberish you private school, tiny apartment living, single person. your greatest days are behind you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not moving. DCPS DL is going fine for our 3rd grader and 1st grader. 3rd grader is self sufficient. 1st grader just needs some prompts with technology. Both do a couple of hours of virtual tutoring per week with 3 of their friends. The kids love sleeping-in.

We do some targeted outdoor/masked/distanced meet-ups so they get socialization. When I say "targeted" only families that are taking Covid precautions very seriously. Several families we have avoided since early in the pandemic have already gotten Covid, but they pushed the boundaries, seemingly just because they really, really don't like this.

But don't get me wrong -- I can't wait for in-person, so long as it is safe. It just seems like school opening is being forced at the worst time of the pandemic -- highest numbers and vaccine right around the corner. And I hate to say it, but the loudest proponents of "open now" seem to be really, really struggling with their kids being home.

Do you consider the 'targeted' family to be taking COVID precautions very seriously if they are meeting with people (your family)? Not meant as a snarky question, but I woudltn'.

Not a snarky question at all! Thanks for being socially responsible and taking Covid-19 seriously.

Targeted =

1) No outside child care -- nannies, daycare, babysitters.
2) Both parents work from home.
3) Parents don't go to grocery store -- curbside pickup and delivery.
4) Only meet outside for the kids. No indoor stuff. Always masked. No dinners/drinks, just park playdates for the kids.


It's not risk free, but careful, I think.

It’s fine to go grocery shopping. It’s not fine to have play dates.

Different poster. I don't do either, but I must say, grocery deliveries are great, and I see grocery shopping as a really really bad idea, where the upside of getting a pack of butter on sale for $1.99 instead of $2.60 online is dwarfed by the very real risk of getting covid while shopping indoors with a bunch of strangers.
Meanwhile, I have empathy for those families who decide their kids really need an outdoor well-distanced and well-masked playdate with another family whose covid hygiene is as described by PP. The issue becomes that too few families' covid hygiene is actually as described by PP, hence why we don't do playdates.

[Anonymous]

No. I would never move. I prioritize the health of my family over having someone else teach my child.

Besides, the places where schools are open are not places I’d ever want to live. No thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love this thread, honestly if you all leave that’d be great. Hopefully we could have smaller class sizes and children would get more help once they are back in person.
And you’d get in person eqrly in another state or private, win win.

Neat. You have no idea how funding works.

This. But truthfully, many DCPS teachers would love it if the families with higher expectations who advocate for their children would just leave. Then they could go back to teaching a community who doesn't ask for standards these teachers can't meet before UMC families flocked to DCPS. These teachers don't care if the majority of their students can't even pass basic proficiency tests. They're pushing to eliminate testing so there's no proof of their poor performance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love this thread, honestly if you all leave that’d be great. Hopefully we could have smaller class sizes and children would get more help once they are back in person.
And you’d get in person eqrly in another state or private, win win.

Neat. You have no idea how funding works.

This. But truthfully, many DCPS teachers would love it if the families with higher expectations who advocate for their children would just leave. Then they could go back to teaching a community who doesn't ask for standards these teachers can't meet before UMC families flocked to DCPS. These teachers don't care if the majority of their students can't even pass basic proficiency tests. They're pushing to eliminate testing so there's no proof of their poor performance.

Sit down.
As a parent with higher expectations, I make time at home to help my kids and push them beyond what the school curriculum requires.

What you're doing doesn't signal high expectations, but an adjustment disorder. You're lashing out at teachers all day on anonymous forums and claiming that they're responsible for something caused by a worldwide pandemic. Instead of sitting down with your kids who are right there in your house, and adapting to what 2020-21 parenting entails, you're having hateful tantrums ascribing all sorts of despicable character flaws onto public school teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not moving. DCPS DL is going fine for our 3rd grader and 1st grader. 3rd grader is self sufficient. 1st grader just needs some prompts with technology. Both do a couple of hours of virtual tutoring per week with 3 of their friends. The kids love sleeping-in.

We do some targeted outdoor/masked/distanced meet-ups so they get socialization. When I say "targeted" only families that are taking Covid precautions very seriously. Several families we have avoided since early in the pandemic have already gotten Covid, but they pushed the boundaries, seemingly just because they really, really don't like this.

But don't get me wrong -- I can't wait for in-person, so long as it is safe. It just seems like school opening is being forced at the worst time of the pandemic -- highest numbers and vaccine right around the corner. And I hate to say it, but the loudest proponents of "open now" seem to be really, really struggling with their kids being home.

Do you consider the 'targeted' family to be taking COVID precautions very seriously if they are meeting with people (your family)? Not meant as a snarky question, but I woudltn'.

Not a snarky question at all! Thanks for being socially responsible and taking Covid-19 seriously.

Targeted =

1) No outside child care -- nannies, daycare, babysitters.
2) Both parents work from home.
3) Parents don't go to grocery store -- curbside pickup and delivery.
4) Only meet outside for the kids. No indoor stuff. Always masked. No dinners/drinks, just park playdates for the kids.


It's not risk free, but careful, I think.

It’s fine to go grocery shopping. It’s not fine to have play dates.

Different poster. I don't do either, but I must say, grocery deliveries are great, and I see grocery shopping as a really really bad idea, where the upside of getting a pack of butter on sale for $1.99 instead of $2.60 online is dwarfed by the very real risk of getting covid while shopping indoors with a bunch of strangers.
Meanwhile, I have empathy for those families who decide their kids really need an outdoor well-distanced and well-masked playdate with another family whose covid hygiene is as described by PP. The issue becomes that too few families' covid hygiene is actually as described by PP, hence why we don't do playdates.

You do realize that when you order your groceries, somebody else, someone probably more at risk for Covid and its potential consequences than you, still has to go to the store. So while you are protecting yourself, you are putting someone else at risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not moving. DCPS DL is going fine for our 3rd grader and 1st grader. 3rd grader is self sufficient. 1st grader just needs some prompts with technology. Both do a couple of hours of virtual tutoring per week with 3 of their friends. The kids love sleeping-in.

We do some targeted outdoor/masked/distanced meet-ups so they get socialization. When I say "targeted" only families that are taking Covid precautions very seriously. Several families we have avoided since early in the pandemic have already gotten Covid, but they pushed the boundaries, seemingly just because they really, really don't like this.

But don't get me wrong -- I can't wait for in-person, so long as it is safe. It just seems like school opening is being forced at the worst time of the pandemic -- highest numbers and vaccine right around the corner. And I hate to say it, but the loudest proponents of "open now" seem to be really, really struggling with their kids being home.

Do you consider the 'targeted' family to be taking COVID precautions very seriously if they are meeting with people (your family)? Not meant as a snarky question, but I woudltn'.

Not a snarky question at all! Thanks for being socially responsible and taking Covid-19 seriously.

Targeted =

1) No outside child care -- nannies, daycare, babysitters.
2) Both parents work from home.
3) Parents don't go to grocery store -- curbside pickup and delivery.
4) Only meet outside for the kids. No indoor stuff. Always masked. No dinners/drinks, just park playdates for the kids.


It's not risk free, but careful, I think.

It’s fine to go grocery shopping. It’s not fine to have play dates.

Different poster. I don't do either, but I must say, grocery deliveries are great, and I see grocery shopping as a really really bad idea, where the upside of getting a pack of butter on sale for $1.99 instead of $2.60 online is dwarfed by the very real risk of getting covid while shopping indoors with a bunch of strangers.
Meanwhile, I have empathy for those families who decide their kids really need an outdoor well-distanced and well-masked playdate with another family whose covid hygiene is as described by PP. The issue becomes that too few families' covid hygiene is actually as described by PP, hence why we don't do playdates.

You do realize that when you order your groceries, somebody else, someone probably more at risk for Covid and its potential consequences than you, still has to go to the store. So while you are protecting yourself, you are putting someone else at risk.

No.
I realize that the big picture consequence is that I am helping keep someone employed and I am letting the store be more of a space for staff to prepare orders thereby minimizing spread.

Instacart and Amazon Fresh staff shop more quickly and more efficiently than I would.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not moving. DCPS DL is going fine for our 3rd grader and 1st grader. 3rd grader is self sufficient. 1st grader just needs some prompts with technology. Both do a couple of hours of virtual tutoring per week with 3 of their friends. The kids love sleeping-in.

We do some targeted outdoor/masked/distanced meet-ups so they get socialization. When I say "targeted" only families that are taking Covid precautions very seriously. Several families we have avoided since early in the pandemic have already gotten Covid, but they pushed the boundaries, seemingly just because they really, really don't like this.

But don't get me wrong -- I can't wait for in-person, so long as it is safe. It just seems like school opening is being forced at the worst time of the pandemic -- highest numbers and vaccine right around the corner. And I hate to say it, but the loudest proponents of "open now" seem to be really, really struggling with their kids being home.

Do you consider the 'targeted' family to be taking COVID precautions very seriously if they are meeting with people (your family)? Not meant as a snarky question, but I woudltn'.

Not a snarky question at all! Thanks for being socially responsible and taking Covid-19 seriously.

Targeted =

1) No outside child care -- nannies, daycare, babysitters.
2) Both parents work from home.
3) Parents don't go to grocery store -- curbside pickup and delivery.
4) Only meet outside for the kids. No indoor stuff. Always masked. No dinners/drinks, just park playdates for the kids.


It's not risk free, but careful, I think.

It’s fine to go grocery shopping. It’s not fine to have play dates.

Different poster. I don't do either, but I must say, grocery deliveries are great, and I see grocery shopping as a really really bad idea, where the upside of getting a pack of butter on sale for $1.99 instead of $2.60 online is dwarfed by the very real risk of getting covid while shopping indoors with a bunch of strangers.
Meanwhile, I have empathy for those families who decide their kids really need an outdoor well-distanced and well-masked playdate with another family whose covid hygiene is as described by PP. The issue becomes that too few families' covid hygiene is actually as described by PP, hence why we don't do playdates.

You do realize that when you order your groceries, somebody else, someone probably more at risk for Covid and its potential consequences than you, still has to go to the store. So while you are protecting yourself, you are putting someone else at risk.

No.
I realize that the big picture consequence is that I am helping keep someone employed and I am letting the store be more of a space for staff to prepare orders thereby minimizing spread.

Instacart and Amazon Fresh staff shop more quickly and more efficiently than I would.

Keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel better.