Not explicitly. But the implicit message of these "let's talk again when people are apoplectic because their kid's class is quarantined!" posts is that it's not worth reopening because some kids will have to quarantine at one point or another, and parents will supposedly be just as upset about that as they are now about closed schools. It's been implicit here and more explicit on other threads. |
History will talk about lots of things. The years long school closure in the US will go down as one of the biggest failures of this country during this pandemic: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/why-british-kids-are-school-american-kids-arent/617438/ |
| I swear. Someone on this forum right write for the Atlantic or owns stock in the company. It’s like someone says something and it’s “I’ve got an Atlantic article about that all lined up”. |
This. It's a disgrace that schools have been closed for so long. |
| Schools are closed in many countries. The disgrace is that the pandemic is not under control. History will not see a generation of kids with lower IQ. It will see a death toll higher than US soldiers in WWII. That is what will be etched in history books. All those who want to open up are going to be on the wrong side of history as selfish, stupid, and callous. |
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What are the many countries that have had no in person school since March? I’ll keep waiting. Tell me about the “many” please. |
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Google it. You don't need me to tell you. Start with Germany. Since March no country has had more than 300,000 people die. What don't you get? Here we discuss about schools reopening when on a typical day 200,000 new people get infected and more than 2,000 people die. How heartless can you get? And yes you will have to wait for schools to reopen, maybe late in spring or in August 2021. |
It’s not “heartless” to talk about reopening schools now, it’s optimistic — and reasonably so. This surge is bad, but it will likely end in a couple of months. If we want schools to reopen before the year is out, the planning has to happen now. |
Your reply is a total non-sequitor. German schools have mostly been open. Not responsive to the query of which are the many other countries’ schools that have been closed. Google tells me no country cares as little about children as the US. That’s why I said I’d wait doe your reply. |
Please stop spreading misinformation. German schools have been fully open since the summer. All they did now is start Christmas break one week early, to allow people to quarantine before many inevitably travel for Christmas and get together with grandparents. In January, elementary schools will open up full time again, while grades 7 and up will be hybrid until the end of January (since spread will be hard to determine at that time due to the holiday lag at the labs), when they will reassess. Germans know that school is essential and are extremely reluctant even to partially close them down. Britain also simply began their break slightly early and is staggering their return in the new year. But they did not shut down schools nor are they planning to. Neither did France. Taking a long break over the holidays makes sense and is not the same as closing schools. I don't think any of the PPs is suggesting we open schools this week or even in early January. Along with UNICEF and the WHO, Europeans believe kids have a right to be in school even during a pandemic. As the data keeps showing that school closures do very little to control the spread of the virus and schools don't tend to be the source of outbreaks, while closures have dire consequences for kids learning, well-being, and development, they keep kids in school even as they are desperate to control the spread in their countries. Are you really going to argue that these international organizations and those countries are "on the wrong side of history" and "selfish, stupid, and callous"? The US is unique in their willingness to shut schools in March and not open them again until 18 months later. The consequences will be significant and will be felt for years to come. To make matters worse, the US is particularly poorly equipped to deal with the fallout and remediate it, since they are already starting from a baseline of extreme inequality and lack of public support for education. |
You didn't state a fact. You stated an (incorrect) opinion. Sorry you don't want to face the facts that your kids, barring a very significant sped designation, will be spending the rest of the school year in DL. |
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I got to hand it to you when you use the UK as an example. It only proves their schools should have remained closed. Have you looked at how they are doing? Their number of deaths per million is even higher than the US. |