What are your school’s term 3 plans??

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Anonymous wrote:I mean if we are seeing 16% positivity rate in JUST these handful of CARES classrooms what will it look like with double triple, etc the students....


And non CARES will have more interaction, these kids are just sitting looking at a computer...

It’s not a “16% positivity rate.” It’s about a 1.3% positivity rate, with no indication of school-based spread.

So 85% of classes stay in-person while others go remote temporarily.

So?

I wish we could pin this tweet. So when people get on here just absolutely apoplectic that their child’s class is sent home we can post it.

It’s better to go and get sent home than never go at all.

Save this one too.

I’m sure most people on here aren’t crazy. But you have to admit some people on here will be screaming about how no one should be sent home, etc.

What a fantasy world you live in.

After reading all these threads?? No way I’m living in a fantasy. You may not be included in the crazy group but there are people on here that will complain and whine and say it isn’t fair. You are delusional if you don’t realize that

All the parents I know who want to return to school (or already have their kids in school) actually read about and understand the issues surrounding school reopening. We are well aware of quarantine procedures. We know the facts, unlike the people who claime schools need to be shut for 2 years.

Let’s meet back again when the complaints start. I give it until Presidents Day. That’s when people will be on here complaining about how their kids class is shut down and how they can’t get any work done.

whatever dude. you’re projecting your own ignorance and pettiness on others. meanwhile my sister (who pays $$ for private) had has 2 quarantine perlods ar her school and considers that successful. you’re in your own little WTU bubble where it’s now the default norm to keep kids out of school. Those of us with more perspective know better.

It appears that DCPS is not the same as private. Given that DCPS has had care rooms open for a month and there are already schools closed. But whatever. I’m a parent and going in with eyes wide open. I know people will be pissed when their kids rooms closed. You live in a bubble if you think no one is going to be mad.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean if we are seeing 16% positivity rate in JUST these handful of CARES classrooms what will it look like with double triple, etc the students....


And non CARES will have more interaction, these kids are just sitting looking at a computer...

It’s not a “16% positivity rate.” It’s about a 1.3% positivity rate, with no indication of school-based spread.

So 85% of classes stay in-person while others go remote temporarily.

So?

I wish we could pin this tweet. So when people get on here just absolutely apoplectic that their child’s class is sent home we can post it.

It’s better to go and get sent home than never go at all.

Save this one too.

I’m sure most people on here aren’t crazy. But you have to admit some people on here will be screaming about how no one should be sent home, etc.

What a fantasy world you live in.

After reading all these threads?? No way I’m living in a fantasy. You may not be included in the crazy group but there are people on here that will complain and whine and say it isn’t fair. You are delusional if you don’t realize that

All the parents I know who want to return to school (or already have their kids in school) actually read about and understand the issues surrounding school reopening. We are well aware of quarantine procedures. We know the facts, unlike the people who claime schools need to be shut for 2 years.

Let’s meet back again when the complaints start. I give it until Presidents Day. That’s when people will be on here complaining about how their kids class is shut down and how they can’t get any work done.

whatever dude. you’re projecting your own ignorance and pettiness on others. meanwhile my sister (who pays $$ for private) had has 2 quarantine perlods ar her school and considers that successful. you’re in your own little WTU bubble where it’s now the default norm to keep kids out of school. Those of us with more perspective know better.

It appears that DCPS is not the same as private. Given that DCPS has had care rooms open for a month and there are already schools closed. But whatever. I’m a parent and going in with eyes wide open. I know people will be pissed when their kids rooms closed. You live in a bubble if you think no one is going to be mad.

People will complain. Whatever. Let them.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean if we are seeing 16% positivity rate in JUST these handful of CARES classrooms what will it look like with double triple, etc the students....


And non CARES will have more interaction, these kids are just sitting looking at a computer...

It’s not a “16% positivity rate.” It’s about a 1.3% positivity rate, with no indication of school-based spread.

So 85% of classes stay in-person while others go remote temporarily.

So?

I wish we could pin this tweet. So when people get on here just absolutely apoplectic that their child’s class is sent home we can post it.

It’s better to go and get sent home than never go at all.

Save this one too.

I’m sure most people on here aren’t crazy. But you have to admit some people on here will be screaming about how no one should be sent home, etc.

What a fantasy world you live in.

After reading all these threads?? No way I’m living in a fantasy. You may not be included in the crazy group but there are people on here that will complain and whine and say it isn’t fair. You are delusional if you don’t realize that

All the parents I know who want to return to school (or already have their kids in school) actually read about and understand the issues surrounding school reopening. We are well aware of quarantine procedures. We know the facts, unlike the people who claime schools need to be shut for 2 years.

Let’s meet back again when the complaints start. I give it until Presidents Day. That’s when people will be on here complaining about how their kids class is shut down and how they can’t get any work done.

whatever dude. you’re projecting your own ignorance and pettiness on others. meanwhile my sister (who pays $$ for private) had has 2 quarantine perlods ar her school and considers that successful. you’re in your own little WTU bubble where it’s now the default norm to keep kids out of school. Those of us with more perspective know better.

It appears that DCPS is not the same as private. Given that DCPS has had care rooms open for a month and there are already schools closed. But whatever. I’m a parent and going in with eyes wide open. I know people will be pissed when their kids rooms closed. You live in a bubble if you think no one is going to be mad.

People will complain. Whatever. Let them.

+1. Using the prospect of people complaining about quarantines as an excuse not to reopen is nuts. But I guess people will use whatever arguments they can think of since there aren't any good ones in favor of keeping kids out of school.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean if we are seeing 16% positivity rate in JUST these handful of CARES classrooms what will it look like with double triple, etc the students....


And non CARES will have more interaction, these kids are just sitting looking at a computer...

It’s not a “16% positivity rate.” It’s about a 1.3% positivity rate, with no indication of school-based spread.

So 85% of classes stay in-person while others go remote temporarily.

So?

I wish we could pin this tweet. So when people get on here just absolutely apoplectic that their child’s class is sent home we can post it.

It’s better to go and get sent home than never go at all.

Save this one too.

I’m sure most people on here aren’t crazy. But you have to admit some people on here will be screaming about how no one should be sent home, etc.

What a fantasy world you live in.

After reading all these threads?? No way I’m living in a fantasy. You may not be included in the crazy group but there are people on here that will complain and whine and say it isn’t fair. You are delusional if you don’t realize that

All the parents I know who want to return to school (or already have their kids in school) actually read about and understand the issues surrounding school reopening. We are well aware of quarantine procedures. We know the facts, unlike the people who claime schools need to be shut for 2 years.

Let’s meet back again when the complaints start. I give it until Presidents Day. That’s when people will be on here complaining about how their kids class is shut down and how they can’t get any work done.

whatever dude. you’re projecting your own ignorance and pettiness on others. meanwhile my sister (who pays $$ for private) had has 2 quarantine perlods ar her school and considers that successful. you’re in your own little WTU bubble where it’s now the default norm to keep kids out of school. Those of us with more perspective know better.

It appears that DCPS is not the same as private. Given that DCPS has had care rooms open for a month and there are already schools closed. But whatever. I’m a parent and going in with eyes wide open. I know people will be pissed when their kids rooms closed. You live in a bubble if you think no one is going to be mad.

People will complain. Whatever. Let them.

+1. Using the prospect of people complaining about quarantines as an excuse not to reopen is nuts. But I guess people will use whatever arguments they can think of since there aren't any good ones in favor of keeping kids out of school.

Who is using it as a reason not to open? No on has said that on this thread. You are reading words that are not on the screen.

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Let’s get back to the bigger problem:

DCPS insisting on a stupid plan for reopening rather than infinitely more logical hybrid plans (like what is used by practically all other school systems) because
1) instructional hours (as though a teacher talking to a screen = kids learning)
and
2) all that stuff they were saying about SEL in recent years was just for fun; we weren’t really supposed to believe it. Instead, we should recognize that instructional hours > kids’ mental health.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean if we are seeing 16% positivity rate in JUST these handful of CARES classrooms what will it look like with double triple, etc the students....


And non CARES will have more interaction, these kids are just sitting looking at a computer...

It’s not a “16% positivity rate.” It’s about a 1.3% positivity rate, with no indication of school-based spread.

So 85% of classes stay in-person while others go remote temporarily.

So?

I wish we could pin this tweet. So when people get on here just absolutely apoplectic that their child’s class is sent home we can post it.

It’s better to go and get sent home than never go at all.

Save this one too.

I’m sure most people on here aren’t crazy. But you have to admit some people on here will be screaming about how no one should be sent home, etc.

What a fantasy world you live in.

After reading all these threads?? No way I’m living in a fantasy. You may not be included in the crazy group but there are people on here that will complain and whine and say it isn’t fair. You are delusional if you don’t realize that

All the parents I know who want to return to school (or already have their kids in school) actually read about and understand the issues surrounding school reopening. We are well aware of quarantine procedures. We know the facts, unlike the people who claime schools need to be shut for 2 years.

Let’s meet back again when the complaints start. I give it until Presidents Day. That’s when people will be on here complaining about how their kids class is shut down and how they can’t get any work done.

whatever dude. you’re projecting your own ignorance and pettiness on others. meanwhile my sister (who pays $$ for private) had has 2 quarantine perlods ar her school and considers that successful. you’re in your own little WTU bubble where it’s now the default norm to keep kids out of school. Those of us with more perspective know better.

It appears that DCPS is not the same as private. Given that DCPS has had care rooms open for a month and there are already schools closed. But whatever. I’m a parent and going in with eyes wide open. I know people will be pissed when their kids rooms closed. You live in a bubble if you think no one is going to be mad.

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Anonymous wrote:Since plans keep getting rejected is DCPS offering schools examples of what would be approved? Clearly the schools need more direction.

My school was told look at the November plans released. It was heavily hinted that this should be our plan.

Why? That’s what is so maddening. Why are they flogging a plan that was disliked by so many different groups?

Are they just wanting to ‘show’ the principals’ union and the teachers’ union and the city council and the various parent groups?

You’d think they would actually be trying to get kids back to school.

DP. Unless you want a concurrent teaching plan (where a teacher teachers kids simultaneously in the classroom and online) the November plan makes sense. It sounds like a lot of the school plans may have resulted in decreasing instruction time with hybrid, which probably isn’t tenable.

Concurrent is fine; decreased teaching time is fine.

To require otherwise is yo pretend like an hour of DL = an hour in-person. Or that an hour of DL with 20 students = an hour of DL with 35 students.

But those things aren’t true! That is why in-person school is desperately needed.

People pushing this hours of instruction BS really are putting weird metrics over kids’ well-being.

I’m not sure those things are totally within the control of DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s get back to the bigger problem:

DCPS insisting on a stupid plan for reopening rather than infinitely more logical hybrid plans (like what is used by practically all other school systems) because
1) instructional hours (as though a teacher talking to a screen = kids learning)
and
2) all that stuff they were saying about SEL in recent years was just for fun; we weren’t really supposed to believe it. Instead, we should recognize that instructional hours > kids’ mental health.

if you’re so convinced you’re smarter than DCPS, please post here the infinitely better plans used elsewhere.

one big issue is how the DL parents freaked the f out about increased class size. if they could accept an increased class size for DL, that would free up more teachers for in person.

the only other alternative (other than cutting instructional time) is concurrent, which I doubt WTU or parents would like any better.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s get back to the bigger problem:

DCPS insisting on a stupid plan for reopening rather than infinitely more logical hybrid plans (like what is used by practically all other school systems) because
1) instructional hours (as though a teacher talking to a screen = kids learning)
and
2) all that stuff they were saying about SEL in recent years was just for fun; we weren’t really supposed to believe it. Instead, we should recognize that instructional hours > kids’ mental health.

if you’re so convinced you’re smarter than DCPS, please post here the infinitely better plans used elsewhere.

one big issue is how the DL parents freaked the f out about increased class size. if they could accept an increased class size for DL, that would free up more teachers for in person.

the only other alternative (other than cutting instructional time) is concurrent, which I doubt WTU or parents would like any better.

Concurrent or asynchronous. Either works.

Increasing DL class sizes is absurd. Why would they ever want to make a bad thing worse?!

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s get back to the bigger problem:

DCPS insisting on a stupid plan for reopening rather than infinitely more logical hybrid plans (like what is used by practically all other school systems) because
1) instructional hours (as though a teacher talking to a screen = kids learning)
and
2) all that stuff they were saying about SEL in recent years was just for fun; we weren’t really supposed to believe it. Instead, we should recognize that instructional hours > kids’ mental health.

if you’re so convinced you’re smarter than DCPS, please post here the infinitely better plans used elsewhere.

one big issue is how the DL parents freaked the f out about increased class size. if they could accept an increased class size for DL, that would free up more teachers for in person.

the only other alternative (other than cutting instructional time) is concurrent, which I doubt WTU or parents would like any better.

Concurrent or asynchronous. Either works.

Increasing DL class sizes is absurd. Why would they ever want to make a bad thing worse?!

well, I’m not totally sure increasing DL size would be that much worse. The teachers spend far too much time trying to duplicate in-class dynamics as it is (having each kid greet the class every day for 30 mins, kill me now!) If they focused more on delivering instruction to large groups, and then office hours/small groups, they could have bigger classes.

and I’m not sure why asynchronous would be better than that.

I’m willing to consider concurrent, but I know there are big challenges there.

Given the small and insular group that did our reopening plan, I have no doubt they may have provided unrealistic options to DCPS. They may have even come up with an impossible plan specifically so that DCPS would reject it.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s get back to the bigger problem:

DCPS insisting on a stupid plan for reopening rather than infinitely more logical hybrid plans (like what is used by practically all other school systems) because
1) instructional hours (as though a teacher talking to a screen = kids learning)
and
2) all that stuff they were saying about SEL in recent years was just for fun; we weren’t really supposed to believe it. Instead, we should recognize that instructional hours > kids’ mental health.

if you’re so convinced you’re smarter than DCPS, please post here the infinitely better plans used elsewhere.

one big issue is how the DL parents freaked the f out about increased class size. if they could accept an increased class size for DL, that would free up more teachers for in person.

the only other alternative (other than cutting instructional time) is concurrent, which I doubt WTU or parents would like any better.

Concurrent or asynchronous. Either works.

Increasing DL class sizes is absurd. Why would they ever want to make a bad thing worse?!

well, I’m not totally sure increasing DL size would be that much worse. The teachers spend far too much time trying to duplicate in-class dynamics as it is (having each kid greet the class every day for 30 mins, kill me now!) If they focused more on delivering instruction to large groups, and then office hours/small groups, they could have bigger classes.

and I’m not sure why asynchronous would be better than that.

I’m willing to consider concurrent, but I know there are big challenges there.

Given the small and insular group that did our reopening plan, I have no doubt they may have provided unrealistic options to DCPS. They may have even come up with an impossible plan specifically so that DCPS would reject it.

forgot to add - I feel like teachers need to be on the receiving end of more large zoom calls to understand why their approach is not working. It’s almost exactly like my managers who do an hour-long zoom staff meeting that is primarily themselves chatting and making everyone turn on their cameras to report in for 2 minutes. makes the manager feel productive, but is extremely aggravating for everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s get back to the bigger problem:

DCPS insisting on a stupid plan for reopening rather than infinitely more logical hybrid plans (like what is used by practically all other school systems) because
1) instructional hours (as though a teacher talking to a screen = kids learning)
and
2) all that stuff they were saying about SEL in recent years was just for fun; we weren’t really supposed to believe it. Instead, we should recognize that instructional hours > kids’ mental health.

if you’re so convinced you’re smarter than DCPS, please post here the infinitely better plans used elsewhere.

one big issue is how the DL parents freaked the f out about increased class size. if they could accept an increased class size for DL, that would free up more teachers for in person.

the only other alternative (other than cutting instructional time) is concurrent, which I doubt WTU or parents would like any better.

Concurrent or asynchronous. Either works.

Increasing DL class sizes is absurd. Why would they ever want to make a bad thing worse?!

well, I’m not totally sure increasing DL size would be that much worse. The teachers spend far too much time trying to duplicate in-class dynamics as it is (having each kid greet the class every day for 30 mins, kill me now!) If they focused more on delivering instruction to large groups, and then office hours/small groups, they could have bigger classes.

and I’m not sure why asynchronous would be better than that.

I’m willing to consider concurrent, but I know there are big challenges there.

Given the small and insular group that did our reopening plan, I have no doubt they may have provided unrealistic options to DCPS. They may have even come up with an impossible plan specifically so that DCPS would reject it.

forgot to add - I feel like teachers need to be on the receiving end of more large zoom calls to understand why their approach is not working. It’s almost exactly like my managers who do an hour-long zoom staff meeting that is primarily themselves chatting and making everyone turn on their cameras to report in for 2 minutes. makes the manager feel productive, but is extremely aggravating for everyone else.

Oh we have gotten plenty of those. DCPS PD and staff meetings are exactly that. Teachers are in position of having to have all the kids on. I’ve posted this before but I have gotten no less than 30 emails from about 4-5 parents complaining that I am not online with their child. I am pulling small groups. I see their child twice a week for small groups. There is only so much time in the day. So I can deal with the barrage of emails from some parents insisting that unless I am with their child on the screen, I must not be doing anything other than napping. It’s ridiculous and it’s making a shi*tty distance learning environment even worse.

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Term 3 may see mroe classes and more schools reopen, but given the data and the spread of the virus, I doubt that this is even worth the effort. We're staying at home where it is safe. We don't want our kids mixing with kids from families who are not taking this pandemic seriously. 315,000 dead and counting. History will look back and say what were you thinking? 2020-2021 school will be all virtual and we are fine with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Term 3 may see mroe classes and more schools reopen, but given the data and the spread of the virus, I doubt that this is even worth the effort. We're staying at home where it is safe. We don't want our kids mixing with kids from families who are not taking this pandemic seriously. 315,000 dead and counting. History will look back and say what were you thinking? 2020-2021 school will be all virtual and we are fine with that.

History will judge the US very harshly for being the only one among civilized countries to keep kids out of school for more than an entire year, with consequences many of these kids will still feel when the people who died from the virus will long have faded from memory.

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Anonymous wrote:Term 3 may see mroe classes and more schools reopen, but given the data and the spread of the virus, I doubt that this is even worth the effort. We're staying at home where it is safe. We don't want our kids mixing with kids from families who are not taking this pandemic seriously. 315,000 dead and counting. History will look back and say what were you thinking? 2020-2021 school will be all virtual and we are fine with that.

History will judge the US very harshly for being the only one among civilized countries to keep kids out of school for more than an entire year, with consequences many of these kids will still feel when the people who died from the virus will long have faded from memory.

Based on what’s happening in the White House...history is going to talking lot more about other things.