3 teachers taught from a empty classroom, all caught COVID & 1 died

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Anonymous wrote:So three adults shared a space and spread the virus among each other.

This has nothing to do with schools.

+1 there people could’ve been hospital workers, fire, police, factory, grocery store employees.

All the whining from/about teachers is getting old. No one is physically forcing you into the room, just like no one is forcing any of the other workers to go. It’s a choice.

This kind of bass ackwards thinking is exactly the opposite kind of approach that needs to be taken during a public health crisis, much less a pandemic. It's not about individual choices whatsoever, it needs to be about public good and weighing risks with rewards. Calling a teacher a whiner who is concerned about their life is beyond the pale.

Then we have to agree to disagree. Teachers are essential to a functioning society, just like the guy checking out your groceries.

Honestly I now consider the grocery workers true heroes. Teachers are just whiners.

I guarantee you when a kid who gets sick at school their teachers are going to be sued.

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Anonymous wrote:So three adults shared a space and spread the virus among each other.

This has nothing to do with schools.

You must be stupid. This has everything to do with ongoing discussions regarding opening school systems. Life must be hard for you.

DP. I think a big lesson learned here is that we need to keep teachers away from each other. One per classroom- that’s it. And since it’s been shown that teenagers are more similar to adults than you get kids in terms of infection rates, it probably means it’s best to do full-on distance learning for high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So three adults shared a space and spread the virus among each other.

This has nothing to do with schools.

+1 there people could’ve been hospital workers, fire, police, factory, grocery store employees.

All the whining from/about teachers is getting old. No one is physically forcing you into the room, just like no one is forcing any of the other workers to go. It’s a choice.

Most people can’t afford to just quit a job. Is that the choice?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So three adults shared a space and spread the virus among each other.

This has nothing to do with schools.

You must be stupid. This has everything to do with ongoing discussions regarding opening school systems. Life must be hard for you.

DP. I think a big lesson learned here is that we need to keep teachers away from each other. One per classroom- that’s it. And since it’s been shown that teenagers are more similar to adults than you get kids in terms of infection rates, it probably means it’s best to do full-on distance learning for high school.

With the proposed plan in MCPS, the students remain their classroom all day. Instead of going to a special (art, music, p.e., media), the specialist would go the classroom (so the specials teachers will be in every classroom in the building). There really isn’t a place for the classroom teacher to go, so there will be more than one adult in classrooms). You also have to think about the special education and ESOL teachers. They plug-in classrooms. (Their offices are generally small and aren’t spacious enough to pull small groups and stay 6-feet apart). If your child’s school has a partnership with a university and has student interns, there will be also be more adults in the classroom. It will happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. So even distance learning isn’t safe. I think we just need to accept this will be a list year. Use some of the saved money for more PPE for hospitals.

How is it not safe? Those teachers should not have been sharing a room.

I feel like you don't know anything about how schools work.

Agreed- none of this is safe. Keep kids and teachers at home and firm micro schools if you absolutely need to work and trade off with other parents.

Everyone has to work. You want society to keep functioning around you, yes? Why are teachers supposed to be the exception?

That's exactly right. If teachers want to stay home to work like any other profession given a choice, they should.

You could probably get people to buy that if you had any plan to make it functional. I see the same teachers attending church, going on vacation, having 4th of July July bbq and advocating against returning to school. I saw how little effort was made in the spring and have no desire to continue down that road.

I'm not interested in selling a plan to anyone. Luckily, it is not my job to come up with a plan that satisfies something functional for you. I especially do not care what teachers do on their vacations.

In all, that has little to do with working. You are deflecting from the original comment you made.

DL working from home is still work, no? You seem to want to paint a picture that working from home is not work.

No. DL is not work from home. You are not performing the service you are contacted to provide. That isn't what the job is. Like it or not, when you argue that it isn't safe to go ina school building, you sort of undercut the argument when you show up in a crowded church service or post photos of your beach vacation. Teachers are not concerned so much about safety as to actually stay home, are they? I don't work from home, that's not what I was contracted to do.

I know one teacher who is like this, but I know plenty who are not. I’d say this goes for anyone though- not just teachers. Lots of parents who want in-person schooling but are not willing to be careful in other aspects of their life. It just seems that as a society, school is not a priority like vacations, church, and get-together are. Either that or people just fail to realize how it is all connected.

Similarly, DH cannot perform his job from home, so I get what you are saying. He and his coworkers either have to go in to do their job or not get paid. I think DL could work for some of the classes for older grades, but it will take more effort, and it’s not clear to me that the districts are putting in the effort during these summer months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So three adults shared a space and spread the virus among each other.

This has nothing to do with schools.

+1 there people could’ve been hospital workers, fire, police, factory, grocery store employees.

All the whining from/about teachers is getting old. No one is physically forcing you into the room, just like no one is forcing any of the other workers to go. It’s a choice.

Most people can’t afford to just quit a job. Is that the choice?

Unfortunately in this country, yes. I wish it were not that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So three adults shared a space and spread the virus among each other.

This has nothing to do with schools.

You must be stupid. This has everything to do with ongoing discussions regarding opening school systems. Life must be hard for you.

DP. I think a big lesson learned here is that we need to keep teachers away from each other. One per classroom- that’s it. And since it’s been shown that teenagers are more similar to adults than you get kids in terms of infection rates, it probably means it’s best to do full-on distance learning for high school.

With the proposed plan in MCPS, the students remain their classroom all day. Instead of going to a special (art, music, p.e., media), the specialist would go the classroom (so the specials teachers will be in every classroom in the building). There really isn’t a place for the classroom teacher to go, so there will be more than one adult in classrooms). You also have to think about the special education and ESOL teachers. They plug-in classrooms. (Their offices are generally small and aren’t spacious enough to pull small groups and stay 6-feet apart). If your child’s school has a partnership with a university and has student interns, there will be also be more adults in the classroom. It will happen.

So axe the specials for this year or have them record some remote lessons. This isn’t rocket science. None of this is ideal, but if you want to cut down on infections within schools, you can’t have adults moving around to different classrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So three adults shared a space and spread the virus among each other.

This has nothing to do with schools.

You must be stupid. This has everything to do with ongoing discussions regarding opening school systems. Life must be hard for you.

DP. I think a big lesson learned here is that we need to keep teachers away from each other. One per classroom- that’s it. And since it’s been shown that teenagers are more similar to adults than you get kids in terms of infection rates, it probably means it’s best to do full-on distance learning for high school.

With the proposed plan in MCPS, the students remain their classroom all day. Instead of going to a special (art, music, p.e., media), the specialist would go the classroom (so the specials teachers will be in every classroom in the building). There really isn’t a place for the classroom teacher to go, so there will be more than one adult in classrooms). You also have to think about the special education and ESOL teachers. They plug-in classrooms. (Their offices are generally small and aren’t spacious enough to pull small groups and stay 6-feet apart). If your child’s school has a partnership with a university and has student interns, there will be also be more adults in the classroom. It will happen.

So axe the specials for this year or have them record some remote lessons. This isn’t rocket science. None of this is ideal, but if you want to cut down on infections within schools, you can’t have adults moving around to different classrooms.

But this IS THE PLAN. Teachers will be in the same room together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So three adults shared a space and spread the virus among each other.

This has nothing to do with schools.

You must be stupid. This has everything to do with ongoing discussions regarding opening school systems. Life must be hard for you.

DP. I think a big lesson learned here is that we need to keep teachers away from each other. One per classroom- that’s it. And since it’s been shown that teenagers are more similar to adults than you get kids in terms of infection rates, it probably means it’s best to do full-on distance learning for high school.

With the proposed plan in MCPS, the students remain their classroom all day. Instead of going to a special (art, music, p.e., media), the specialist would go the classroom (so the specials teachers will be in every classroom in the building). There really isn’t a place for the classroom teacher to go, so there will be more than one adult in classrooms). You also have to think about the special education and ESOL teachers. They plug-in classrooms. (Their offices are generally small and aren’t spacious enough to pull small groups and stay 6-feet apart). If your child’s school has a partnership with a university and has student interns, there will be also be more adults in the classroom. It will happen.

So axe the specials for this year or have them record some remote lessons. This isn’t rocket science. None of this is ideal, but if you want to cut down on infections within schools, you can’t have adults moving around to different classrooms.

But this IS THE PLAN. Teachers will be in the same room together.

Well it shouldn’t be, and we should be writing to the school board specifically objecting to this. I think the problem is that we (myself included) have been a bit chaotic in our opposition to the reopening plans. We need to focus on things that will make the most difference.