Help! When does the pain end for the baby? I've been in tears...

Anonymous
OP here.

I wished I had good news to share with the DCUM community. It's been a rollercoaster of emotions -- hope, frustration, exasperation, excitement, anger... all of which is completely controlled by a little 3-month-old. Perhaps we're naive, but my husband and I keep searching for that silver bullet that will solve our son's eating problems. For the poster who had suggested that it might be an ear infection, we were hoping it was that as well. We keep optimistic but it is so easy to see the glass as half empty (or sometimes all empty). Over the weekend, my emotions were hinged on the Haberman feeder, which came in the mail on Saturday afternoon. I read the advertisement "Its innovative design provides the answer to lengthy, distressful feedings and an alternative to nasogastric tube..." There was my silver bullet! On Saturday night, my baby took in a whopping 3.25 ounce from the Haberman although he was quite somnolent and vomited half of his intake. Regardless, my husband and I were doing our silly happy dance as this provided new hope. Then Sunday, all feedings were refused. DS would not even take in a quarter of an ounce. By 5pm, I threw the bottle across the room and broke down. My tears would not stop gushing out and I sobbed for a good 20 minutes. It was quite therapeutic. Sort of like the therapy session I had with shoveling snow over the week. My husband had asked me if I wanted to stay inside and feed the baby or go out to shovel snow. I opted for the latter. I was outside for 4 hours. Not only did I cleared our driveway; I cleared my neighbor's as well. For the first time in weeks, I felt that my energy and effort was actually making some kind of a difference.

Our second opinion GI from Children's had us doing a bunch of tests and consult with a neurologist. Even with advanced appointments and such, it took an entire month for all the evaluations to complete. Our family was incredibly hopeful that Children's Hospital would provide us with something...anything... to help us break this vicious cycle of tube dependency (i.e. children who are on feeding tube will eventually become dependent on them). This is evidenced by our son's eating trend. At the time of our hospital discharge, DS was taking 30% of his daily nutrients orally. As of last weekend, this has dropped to zero and DS became 100% dependent on the tube.

The research that we've done have opened our eyes to a whole different world; a world where babies spend a large part of their days strapped to a pump that slowly drips nutrients into their little bodies. Their faces have become a rashy mess from the tape which seems to mask their faces. They are under constant surveillance as their little fingers try to pull at the tubing irritants attached to their cheeks. I now sleep with one hand on my son's arm. His slightest movement would jolt me awake as I would peer over to see if he has yet again yanked out his tube. For our son, the whole tube insertion process is a nightmare. He would cry hysterically and inconsolably for over an hour. I don't know how it is that the medical professionals I had encountered could look me in the eyes and reassured me that the tube is painless. How would they know? Babies can't talk. We have experimented and put the tube down our noses/throat to see what it would feel like and I can personally say that it was a horrible experience. I was constantly nauseous and gagging/retching.

Before DS#2, I did not know of this whole different world of desperate parents who do not count their child's milk intake by ounces, but by the precious small amounts of CCs and milliliters. I have become one of those parents. Our first son has never been a great eater, but nowadays I marvel at the sight of his eating....How I wish my second son could have the same chance to enjoy life's pleasures instead of being strapped to the pump. It just does not seem fair.

What we have realized is that tube fed children dissociate hunger from the gratification of eating. They lay there not understanding why it is that their little tummies are suddenly full. With time, they will no longer know how to feed using their mouths. Parents of these kids report that their children eventually stop becoming hungry. I fear that I am beginning to see that with my 3-month-old as well. He can easily go half a day without showing any cues of hunger. What is more, tube children are even more prone to vomit spells and gastrointestinal pain. For a severely reflux child, my son rarely spat-up. Ever since the tube insertion, however, he has vomited much more often.

After 4 weeks of emails going back and forth with the last email from the pediatric GI writing "we'll discuss a treatment plan at our next appointment", I was hopeful. I did not care how I had to get there but I was determined to find my way through the wintry storm to go into DC. We were heartbroken when we discovered that the "plan" of treatment is the same old thing we have heard for this past month: "offer him the bottle first, then put whatever he doesn't take down the tube." What is more, our GI commented that our son has dropped off his 75% curve from month-1 to the 50%-ile, and that we have to put at least 35 ounces down the tube daily. I wanted to shake the doctor and scream, "I could care less if my son is in the 25%-ile as long as he seems healthy and is able to eat like normal again." What I have discovered is that these doctors are obsessed with the growth curve. Being that my husband is also a physician, we understand the need to keep on a curve but when a child is sick (or in our case, have a feeding tube) it is unrealistic to be obsessed about how he fell away from his 75%-ile curve. What is more, our family is genetically predisposition to being on the slim side; I am barely 110 lbs and with this terrible elimination diet that I am on, I doubt I'll be in the triple digits in another few weeks. So it shouldn't be surprising that our son will follow a similar weight trend. It is disappointing that even with the greatest medical facility in the DC area, the best solution we received for our son is "put more milk down his tube." The GI have mentioned that all results came back normal and that as far as he can guess, my baby's acid reflux pain should already be managed with the prevacid and zantac. I asked him what is the plan to help my child wean off the feeding tube. He curtly replied, "when he's able to eat on his own." I honestly don't think the GI doctor gets it. How can he eat on his own when no one helps him with it? The analogy that comes to my mind is if you broke your foot and are put in a wheelchair. You ask your Orthopaedist Surgeon, "when can I get out of my wheelchair?" And to that the Orthopod would reply "when you are able to walk." Well, if there is no plan of treatment to help a person walk, then eventually their muscles will atrophy and will be bound to the wheelchair forever. My husband and I are feeling very isolated as we feel that no medical professional really cares that our child is on the feeding tube. Last week, I brought him to the pediatrician to see if he might have an infection. I was taken aback when the ped said, "congratulations, your son gained some weight and looks great" then left the room.

What we realize is we need to arm ourselves with a good feeding therapist that has experience with suck-swallow-breath and oral aversion in infants. The therapist that we had worked with at Children's is less than impressive. We have left her multiple messages already with no reply. If any of DCUM parents out there have a recommended Speech Language Pathologist, I would be grateful if you can leave their contact information. I have also contact Infants and Toddlers. They were supposed to be here last Monday but due to the snow storm and President's Day, the appointment is postponed until next week.

So for now, I continue to look for my silver bullet....
Anonymous
OP, I am truly sorry.

I would contact Pat Shelly at the Breastfeeding Center and see if she has recommendations for someone that may be able to work with you on the feeding issues. She's been in DC for a long time and may know of a gem. It sounds like you may well be headed toward having a tube placed and I would exhaust every option before then.

Has anyone suggested that perhaps he could have a mitochondrial disorder? Swallowing issues, and especially FTT are common. I would also get a copy of his newborn screening and make sure that it was completely clear. Did they do a swallow study? Have they done a RAST blood panel to search for allergies?

You and your family, especially your precious baby will stay in our thoughts and prayers. I have had a baby with health issues and weight gain (nothing nearly as serious) and I know that you are doing a FANTASTIC job if he is well hydrated and gaining at a good rate.
Anonymous
OP,
Can you husband pull any strings and get your son seen here?
http://www.ivanhoe.com/channels/p_channelstory.cfm?storyid=20617

Failing that, can he consult with them?

We have not been particularly impressed with Childrens and time is of the essence. The tube itself can make him more orally averse as you know.

HTH.
Anonymous
of the folks at the Kennedy Krieger Institute. You need some people with a treatment plan.
Anonymous

OP -- I am so sorry to hear that things are not improving...I think of your family often. I wish I had specific doctors to suggest...the only thing I can say is that I have found that getting to the right doctor (and therefore solution) can depend greatly and starting with the right one. Have you considered taking your son to a few different pediatricians to see which specialists they would recommend? I have not had to do this with my child, however, I had pretty severe stomach issues myself at one point and it took seeing quite a few different doctors to finally land upon a specialist that really listened and eventually solved the problem.

Good luck...honestly, I wish we were friends so that I could volunteer to help your family with anything you might need!
Anonymous
OP - I'm so sorry to read your latest update. How heart wrenching this might be for you AND your DS#1 must also feel the frustration and tension. Don't forget about him.

Where are you located? If you're in Ffx Co. the county offers speech therapy services. The fee is based on HHI, but usually your insurance will cover most of it.

Just a random thought, but is your DS having trouble passing stool too? Or is it a matter of keep food down?

As fruitless as it may seem, continue the attempts to feed orally. Believe me when I say it is a HUGE struggle trying to (re)teach your child how to swallow food (once they are healthier and stronger). And of course, as you know, the hunger sensation and eating.
Anonymous
OP, your post reminded me very much of my daughter at the same age. The constant pump feedings, the lack of sleep, the desperate attempts to get her to drink even a few milliliters orally...the frustration when she puked up most of what she had taken in...inserting the NG tube was the worst part...exhaustion and despair...falling down to the first or second percentile....Ditto the doctors not understanding our desire to lose the NG tube. We also had some other issues to deal with (tracheostomy etc).

You might not believe this now, but one day, and sooner than you think, this will all seem like a bad dream. We went from 2 or 3 ounces/day orally to losing the NG tube in the space of about two months, if I remember correctly. The big breakthrough for us came around 4 months when she began to dreamfeed. I am sure the omeprazole also helped to reduce the mental link she had made between feeding and pain. She began to take 4 ounces or so when she was asleep, enough that eventually we were able to take out the tube (or rather she did, and we didn't replace it!)....

As you are aware, you need to be the advocate for your child, you can't rely on the doctors coming up with a plan for this sort of thing. I am sure there are some places that specialise in this problem and it might be worth looking into, but ultimately you need to trust your instincts as a mother. The doctors tend to be more concerned with the child gaining weight rather than the feeding issues. e.g. to lose the NG tube we had to have our daughter take rather less fluid than the doctors would have been comfortable with for a few days, but we had educated ourselves sufficiently that we were comfortable with what we were doing.

Good luck.
Anonymous
OP, I understand that the tube itself is becoming a problem, but what about the underlying problem(s) that made it necessary? Did any of the testing indicate anything? Did they have you see a geneticist? Did they do biopsies when they scoped? How did the swallow study go?

I'd also take a look at mito, it is progressive and things like lactated ringers and anesthesia for the scope could have been difficult for his body to clear. Not sure if he seems "soloment" to conserve energy or due to pain, but altered states of alertness are typical with mito or fatty acid oxidation disorders. If anything you read looks possible I'd have your husband pull every string to get him tested by Dr. Kelley at KK, it's nearby and he doesn't do muscle biopsies so not too invasive. It's not as good as Cleveland Clinic for treatment, but their lab is excellent for diagnosis. I know that the tube and getting food into him is a crisis but there was something that started the chain of events. Losing muscle tone is a classic mito sign and it sounds like he fed and swallowed ok at first. You may still end up with a g tube but finding the underlying causes gives you hope of turning things around. Was he born in DC? If your ped doesn't have it, get a copy of his newborn screen from the Department of Health. If he has a fatty acid oxidation disorder he needs a very different feeding protocol than a typical baby. The long chain fatty acids that most thrive on can be incompletely broken down and can cause progressive brain damage, which may be what you are seeing. I've heard of cases where the newborn screen was positive but where the family was't notified. The newborn screen does not test for mito disorders.

Do you know about the parent to parent message boards? You might want to post there with detail and see if it sounds familiar to anyone.
Anonymous
Not OP here, just one of the well-wishers.

1605 and 1607, is there any chance you would be willing to talk to OP on the phone or something? it seems like you have been there, done that. message boards are great for preserving anonymity, but OP, if I were you I might think about setting up a nameless email account and maybe talking to people one on one, even on the phone if possible. You just never, never know if a converstaion with someone who has been there, done that, might illuminate something that the doctors are overlooking. If I had gone through something like this, I'd do just about anything to help you.

As it stands, I'm thankful to not have gone through this, so I just don't know anything that might help.
Anonymous
My baby had a severe oral aversion due to reflux....

Are you still pumping?

What helped us turn the corner is daily baths with the baby. Twice a day if I was "feeling up to it". He'd get nice and relaxed in the tub and would sometimes latch for a moment or two. I tried to be very casual about it and if he didn't seem up to it we'd just cuddle. He got to were he'd latch until the milk let down and then he'd start to cry. This wasn't optimal of course as you want the whole bath to be a pleasurable. I incorporated a nipple shield for the reason that the baby controls the amount of milk received. I was surprised to find out (from my LC, Kathy McCue) that shields are used for reflux babies for this purpose.

It was a LOOOONG and SLOOOOOW process. After a month or so he started accepted the shield briefly out of the bath (a huge breakthrough). He still had off days...I won't lie....I cried a lot. Eventually he would do a whole feed with the shield. Once this got more consistent I would remove the shield towards the very end of the feed. Sometimes this was okay and sometimes he wasn't having it.

My baby is 8 months now and is just now feeding normally. It's been a brutal fall and winter but the light at the end of the tunnel upon us. I wish you the best.

If you're bottle feeding only you could probably do something similar with the baths and bottles.

I'm thinking of you....
Anonymous
OP, I am very sorry you have had to go through this.

Our son also had reflux with severe vomiting starting at about 4 weeks of age. Like you the Zantac did not work and after about a month we saw some improvement with Prevacid.

We were not breastfeeding, but using Alimentum mixed with Rice flakes or Oatmeal flakes. We would have to mix it all together so that the formula was almost a thick mush, like regular oatmeal. We then had to cut a cross in all the nipples so that the opening was big enough to suck out the mixture. This really helped. Our son seemed much more comfortable with the thicker mixtures and he was able to keep it down.

I'm sure you have tried everything, but hadn't seen the mixing of rice or oatmeal flakes with formula in these posts.

I will be thinking and praying for your son's quick recovery.

Anonymous
OP, which meds is he currently on? Which forms? Did you ever get a chance to post on the kidswithfoodallergies.org site? Lots of kids there with severe reflux, aversions, and some with tubes. Many kids there react to ingredients in the meds, despite docs saying it isn't possible, medical grade, etc. For example, compounded Prevacid is notoriously unstable (generally only good for about 10 days) so a lot of people use solutabs (disolved and squirted or just disolved). But if your child has an issue with soy (in the flavoring), they may be causing him to react. Does he still have a lot of reflux symptoms (hard to separate out from the tube I bet). Have you tried Zegrid? As I understand it, it is the most "hypoallergenic" and you can just sprinkle the capsule in his mouth. I'm still not sure you have the reflux under control.

Keep trying dreamfeeds and bathtub feeds (if they can be in low light is even better), therapeutic for both of you even if he doesn't want to latch, but it might work sometimes.
Anonymous
Praying for you. My daughter refused a bottle and breast feeding as well. I was obsessive about weighing her several times a day on a rented scale and feeding her baby food starting at 2 months and that is what kept her going...with no straight breastmilk/formula. It is so frustrating. Out of no where at around 8 months she started taking a bottle. My heart goes out to you.
Anonymous
OP, I think his reflux is still not well managed. Find a 3rd ped GI, I can't believe no one has tried to change his meds!

Take a look at the Marcikids website re: Zegrid and re: dosing
http://www.marci-kids.com/dosing.html

Once you get the reflux under better control you can address the eating aversion and oral defensiveness.

Anonymous
Ugh, I'm so sorry to read your update OP. I'd call Pat Shelly first thing in the am and ask if she has a rec for a feeding therapist. I'm sure she has seem similar babies.

For us the "silver bullet" was Zegrid (actually the generic). I'm shocked that the docs haven't tried other PPIs.

Is he soley on breastmilk at this point? I think you were going to try one of the hypo formulas, did that help at all? Sending you good wishes, OP.
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