The real affirmative action but let's blame the browns and blacks. It's ok as long as it's white

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Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action hurts blacks and Hispanics. It comes with poor reputation that follows people.

Then ALDC preferences hurt those subgroups and should be ended as well.

My gut feeling is that you'd think poorly of blacks and Hispanics with or without affirmative action . . .

No. And no. The scandals in the news shows people’s attitude towards athlete “scholars” is changing. The more we know, the lower the opinion of these people not the least of which are the admissions people. Hispanics and blacks in CalTech and MIT are highly regarded. They are in because of merit. Same with oxford and Cambridge, both of which do not allow affirmative action.

So to protect the reputation of blacks and Hispanics we should end race preference, but unqualified white applicants who get in under the ALDC preferences are ok? ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action, and those preferences, by the way, don't exist at CallTech, MIT, Oxford or Cambridge.

Who said they are ok? No dumb affirmative action students, no dumb legacies, and no dumb jock meatheads.

I don’t think anyone in those groups at Harvard is “dumb.” And way to get in a very clever insult to people who are talented in athletics.

And to the PP who stated, “ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action,” I affirmative action doesn’t mean what you think it means.

+1. My daughter’s college team had a collective 3.5+ GPA last semester. Well above the school average. It isn’t uncommon.

Sorry you got picked last for sports. I know it still hurts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action hurts blacks and Hispanics. It comes with poor reputation that follows people.

Then ALDC preferences hurt those subgroups and should be ended as well.

My gut feeling is that you'd think poorly of blacks and Hispanics with or without affirmative action . . .

No. And no. The scandals in the news shows people’s attitude towards athlete “scholars” is changing. The more we know, the lower the opinion of these people not the least of which are the admissions people. Hispanics and blacks in CalTech and MIT are highly regarded. They are in because of merit. Same with oxford and Cambridge, both of which do not allow affirmative action.

So to protect the reputation of blacks and Hispanics we should end race preference, but unqualified white applicants who get in under the ALDC preferences are ok? ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action, and those preferences, by the way, don't exist at CallTech, MIT, Oxford or Cambridge.

Who said they are ok? No dumb affirmative action students, no dumb legacies, and no dumb jock meatheads.

I don’t think anyone in those groups at Harvard is “dumb.” And way to get in a very clever insult to people who are talented in athletics.

And to the PP who stated, “ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action,” I affirmative action doesn’t mean what you think it means.

+1. My daughter’s college team had a collective 3.5+ GPA last semester. Well above the school average. It isn’t uncommon.

Sorry you got picked last for sports. I know it still hurts.

Harvard would be a cakewalk for any black or Hispanic Caltech student. A 3.5+ GPA harvard student will be lucky to survive Caltech with anything above 2.0 GPA. Sorry to blow your bubble

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Anonymous wrote:How many Caucasian students get legacy compared to affirmative action of blacks and browns as a percentage of overall population and applications?

False argument. Preference is a preference. It's not a matter of degree.

Not false at all. You don’t know statistics or logic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action hurts blacks and Hispanics. It comes with poor reputation that follows people.

Then ALDC preferences hurt those subgroups and should be ended as well.

My gut feeling is that you'd think poorly of blacks and Hispanics with or without affirmative action . . .

No. And no. The scandals in the news shows people’s attitude towards athlete “scholars” is changing. The more we know, the lower the opinion of these people not the least of which are the admissions people. Hispanics and blacks in CalTech and MIT are highly regarded. They are in because of merit. Same with oxford and Cambridge, both of which do not allow affirmative action.

So to protect the reputation of blacks and Hispanics we should end race preference, but unqualified white applicants who get in under the ALDC preferences are ok? ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action, and those preferences, by the way, don't exist at CallTech, MIT, Oxford or Cambridge.

Who said they are ok? No dumb affirmative action students, no dumb legacies, and no dumb jock meatheads.

I don’t think anyone in those groups at Harvard is “dumb.” And way to get in a very clever insult to people who are talented in athletics.

And to the PP who stated, “ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action,” I affirmative action doesn’t mean what you think it means.

+1. My daughter’s college team had a collective 3.5+ GPA last semester. Well above the school average. It isn’t uncommon.


The classes your athletes are getting 3.5’s in are not quite the same classes as your typical academically qualified applicant. That’s so well documented that normally it doesn’t need to be said.
Sorry you got picked last for sports. I know it still hurts.

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The classes your athletes are getting 3.5’s in are not quite the same classes as your typical academically qualified applicant. That’s so well documented that normally it doesn’t need to be said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many Caucasian students get legacy compared to affirmative action of blacks and browns as a percentage of overall population and applications?

False argument. Preference is a preference. It's not a matter of degree.

Not false at all. You don’t know statistics or logic.

For the student who gets in when they otherwise would not have it doesn’t matter how many other students get in on the same criteria.

For the student who doesn’t get in because someone less qualified got in, it doesn’t matter what the preference is. They still lost.

So no it doesn’t matter in the end. Either all preferences are bad or none

Statistics and logic have nothing to do with it and simply saying I don’t know them doesn’t mean you do.

[Anonymous]

Obama went to Columbia and Harvard on racial preference. His grades at Punahou and Occidental were merely average. He would never have gotten in to Columbia or Harvard had he not classified himself as African American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The classes your athletes are getting 3.5’s in are not quite the same classes as your typical academically qualified applicant. That’s so well documented that normally it doesn’t need to be said.

You posted that twice. You’re bright.

Top ten LAC. Probably half in the natural sciences. Last year graduated two of six seniors to med school. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action hurts blacks and Hispanics. It comes with poor reputation that follows people.

Then ALDC preferences hurt those subgroups and should be ended as well.

My gut feeling is that you'd think poorly of blacks and Hispanics with or without affirmative action . . .

No. And no. The scandals in the news shows people’s attitude towards athlete “scholars” is changing. The more we know, the lower the opinion of these people not the least of which are the admissions people. Hispanics and blacks in CalTech and MIT are highly regarded. They are in because of merit. Same with oxford and Cambridge, both of which do not allow affirmative action.

So to protect the reputation of blacks and Hispanics we should end race preference, but unqualified white applicants who get in under the ALDC preferences are ok? ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action, and those preferences, by the way, don't exist at CallTech, MIT, Oxford or Cambridge.

Who said they are ok? No dumb affirmative action students, no dumb legacies, and no dumb jock meatheads.

I don’t think anyone in those groups at Harvard is “dumb.” And way to get in a very clever insult to people who are talented in athletics.

And to the PP who stated, “ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action,” I affirmative action doesn’t mean what you think it means.

The point isn’t that athletics don’t meet some minimum qualification for admission, it’s that they’re admitted ahead of students that would have beaten them had the criteria been academics alone. So yes it’s a form of affirmative action or preference or however you want to classify it. race preference admits also meet the minimum threshold so if you’re saying that athletic recruits are ok because they aren’t “dumb” then everyone who gets in fits that description.

And to the other poster, you could pick any random twenty students at Harvard and they’ll have a 3.5 GPA. That’s not impressive

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action hurts blacks and Hispanics. It comes with poor reputation that follows people.

Then ALDC preferences hurt those subgroups and should be ended as well.

My gut feeling is that you'd think poorly of blacks and Hispanics with or without affirmative action . . .

No. And no. The scandals in the news shows people’s attitude towards athlete “scholars” is changing. The more we know, the lower the opinion of these people not the least of which are the admissions people. Hispanics and blacks in CalTech and MIT are highly regarded. They are in because of merit. Same with oxford and Cambridge, both of which do not allow affirmative action.

So to protect the reputation of blacks and Hispanics we should end race preference, but unqualified white applicants who get in under the ALDC preferences are ok? ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action, and those preferences, by the way, don't exist at CallTech, MIT, Oxford or Cambridge.

Who said they are ok? No dumb affirmative action students, no dumb legacies, and no dumb jock meatheads.

I don’t think anyone in those groups at Harvard is “dumb.” And way to get in a very clever insult to people who are talented in athletics.

And to the PP who stated, “ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action,” I affirmative action doesn’t mean what you think it means.

The point isn’t that athletics don’t meet some minimum qualification for admission, it’s that they’re admitted ahead of students that would have beaten them had the criteria been academics alone. So yes it’s a form of affirmative action or preference or however you want to classify it. race preference admits also meet the minimum threshold so if you’re saying that athletic recruits are ok because they aren’t “dumb” then everyone who gets in fits that description.

And to the other poster, you could pick any random twenty students at Harvard and they’ll have a 3.5 GPA. That’s not impressive

But a 3.5 GPA while being an athlete that requires 3-4 hours of practice a day would be. Athletes that got in based on their hard work and GPA is much better than those who got in based on their families wealth and legacies as none of the latter were due to student except by luck of birth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action hurts blacks and Hispanics. It comes with poor reputation that follows people.

Then ALDC preferences hurt those subgroups and should be ended as well.

My gut feeling is that you'd think poorly of blacks and Hispanics with or without affirmative action . . .

No. And no. The scandals in the news shows people’s attitude towards athlete “scholars” is changing. The more we know, the lower the opinion of these people not the least of which are the admissions people. Hispanics and blacks in CalTech and MIT are highly regarded. They are in because of merit. Same with oxford and Cambridge, both of which do not allow affirmative action.

So to protect the reputation of blacks and Hispanics we should end race preference, but unqualified white applicants who get in under the ALDC preferences are ok? ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action, and those preferences, by the way, don't exist at CallTech, MIT, Oxford or Cambridge.

Who said they are ok? No dumb affirmative action students, no dumb legacies, and no dumb jock meatheads.

I don’t think anyone in those groups at Harvard is “dumb.” And way to get in a very clever insult to people who are talented in athletics.

And to the PP who stated, “ALDC preferences are a form of affirmative action,” I affirmative action doesn’t mean what you think it means.

The point isn’t that athletics don’t meet some minimum qualification for admission, it’s that they’re admitted ahead of students that would have beaten them had the criteria been academics alone. So yes it’s a form of affirmative action or preference or however you want to classify it. race preference admits also meet the minimum threshold so if you’re saying that athletic recruits are ok because they aren’t “dumb” then everyone who gets in fits that description.

And to the other poster, you could pick any random twenty students at Harvard and they’ll have a 3.5 GPA. That’s not impressive

But a 3.5 GPA while being an athlete that requires 3-4 hours of practice a day would be. Athletes that got in based on their hard work and GPA is much better than those who got in based on their families wealth and legacies as none of the latter were due to student except by luck of birth.

Being able to row a boat has no bearing on academic merit, which is the point isn’t it? Legacy students are, on the whole, more academically qualified and who are you to say they didn’t work hard or have other skills? Either you’re in the group of the most qualified students or not.

Stop idolizing athletes. Plenty of students at Harvard spend hours a day practicing an instrument, working at the Crimson or some other activity. Being an athlete isn’t some special category.

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Poor dummy got picked last. Dork!

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Anonymous wrote:Poor dummy got picked last. Dork!

All that may be true but it doesn’t make what I wrote wrong does it? At least I’m not a jock sniffer.

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Anonymous wrote:Obama went to Columbia and Harvard on racial preference. His grades at Punahou and Occidental were merely average. He would never have gotten in to Columbia or Harvard had he not classified himself as African American.

And, boy, what a mistake it was to admit him despite his merely average grades. How wrong they were to think he had other merits as a potential student. What a fraud, what a travesty!.He completely wasted that educational opportunity, proved himself to be unworthy of admission, and has suffered horribly from the stigma of affirmative action. /s

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Anonymous wrote:Poor dummy got picked last. Dork!

You are a poor representative of the scholar athletes. You should stop posting.

—From an actual scholar athlete rather than obnoxious parent of one