Why does Montgomery County Subsidize Taxes for Country Clubs?

[Anonymous]

Under Which subsection of 503(c) are country clubs exempt? It can’t be (c)(3). Not all the (c) subsections need to be treated the same. So it’s really disingenuous to say that the County can’t treat country clubs differently than they treat charitable institutions.

It is an interesting question to ask what could/should be done with these properties when the clubs go away. There would finally be space for some new public school building down county!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Also, all that manicured grass is super bad for the environment with the fertilizer and pesticide runoff.

You're an idiot. Turf managers ensure that there is little to no runoff. Know why? Chemicals are expensive, and they'd rather have them do their job on the Turf instead of in the river. Applications are dosed and timed to ensure this.

[Anonymous]

Country clubs pay taxes. But its reasonable to tax open space at a lower rate than developed land. Open space and trees provide many social and environmental benefits such as cleaning the air, reducing summer temperatures in an increasingly paved area and serving as homes and feeding grounds for birds and wildlife.

[Anonymous]

Some people would like to tax country clubs into bankruptcy and then use the land for low income housing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people would like to tax country clubs into bankruptcy and then use the land for low income housing.

That would actually be an incredibly useful thing to do with that otherwise useless land. There is a crushing shortage of affordable housing in Montgomery county. Offering housing options for low income earners close to places where many of them can find work would be a huge boon. It would cut down on pollution as many would have access to public transit or could simply bike or walk to work. Being closer to employment would also reduce time wasted commuting, and allow low income parents to spend more time with children.



Chevy Chase Club is 190 acres. Imagine the number of lower income families that could benefit from high-density affordable housing in that location. Many of these people would be within a short distance of the businesses and homes were they are working jobs right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people would like to tax country clubs into bankruptcy and then use the land for low income housing.

That would actually be an incredibly useful thing to do with that otherwise useless land. There is a crushing shortage of affordable housing in Montgomery county. Offering housing options for low income earners close to places where many of them can find work would be a huge boon. It would cut down on pollution as many would have access to public transit or could simply bike or walk to work. Being closer to employment would also reduce time wasted commuting, and allow low income parents to spend more time with children.



Chevy Chase Club is 190 acres. Imagine the number of lower income families that could benefit from high-density affordable housing in that location. Many of these people would be within a short distance of the businesses and homes were they are working jobs right now.

This is hardly a catastrophe. PG County is right next door and way mire affordable than Montgomery. And the new transit line will go from PG into the heart of Bethesda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people would like to tax country clubs into bankruptcy and then use the land for low income housing.

That would actually be an incredibly useful thing to do with that otherwise useless land. There is a crushing shortage of affordable housing in Montgomery county. Offering housing options for low income earners close to places where many of them can find work would be a huge boon. It would cut down on pollution as many would have access to public transit or could simply bike or walk to work. Being closer to employment would also reduce time wasted commuting, and allow low income parents to spend more time with children.



Chevy Chase Club is 190 acres. Imagine the number of lower income families that could benefit from high-density affordable housing in that location. Many of these people would be within a short distance of the businesses and homes were they are working jobs right now.

If they tried to put dense low income housing right in the center of Chevy Chase Village, you truly would see a Brooks Brothers riot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tax mosques double!

Maga am I rite

[Anonymous]

Just read this whole thread

My conclusion is..... I think the tax rate needs to go up a bit.. don't think a country club is that great for the environment vs the types of open spaces this tax rate was designed for

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tax mosques double!

Maga am I rite

I have no problem with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
That would actually be an incredibly useful thing to do with that otherwise useless land. There is a crushing shortage of affordable housing in Montgomery county.

Says who? All new housing developments in MoCo must offer at least 12.5% of the units as MPDUs (low-income housing), some offer more like 15% in exchange for being allowed to build more units overall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people would like to tax country clubs into bankruptcy and then use the land for low income housing.

That would actually be an incredibly useful thing to do with that otherwise useless land. There is a crushing shortage of affordable housing in Montgomery county. Offering housing options for low income earners close to places where many of them can find work would be a huge boon. It would cut down on pollution as many would have access to public transit or could simply bike or walk to work. Being closer to employment would also reduce time wasted commuting, and allow low income parents to spend more time with children.



Chevy Chase Club is 190 acres. Imagine the number of lower income families that could benefit from high-density affordable housing in that location. Many of these people would be within a short distance of the businesses and homes were they are working jobs right now.

If they tried to put dense low income housing right in the center of Chevy Chase Village, you truly would see a Brooks Brothers riot.

That alone would make it worth doing all by itself

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people would like to tax country clubs into bankruptcy and then use the land for low income housing.

That would actually be an incredibly useful thing to do with that otherwise useless land. There is a crushing shortage of affordable housing in Montgomery county. Offering housing options for low income earners close to places where many of them can find work would be a huge boon. It would cut down on pollution as many would have access to public transit or could simply bike or walk to work. Being closer to employment would also reduce time wasted commuting, and allow low income parents to spend more time with children.



Chevy Chase Club is 190 acres. Imagine the number of lower income families that could benefit from high-density affordable housing in that location. Many of these people would be within a short distance of the businesses and homes were they are working jobs right now.

If they tried to put dense low income housing right in the center of Chevy Chase Village, you truly would see a Brooks Brothers riot.

That alone would make it worth doing all by itself

So you're really more interested in declaring class warfare? Whatever. Thankfully most of us live in the real world and don't care about the imaginary injustices of country clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Also, all that manicured grass is super bad for the environment with the fertilizer and pesticide runoff.

You're an idiot. Turf managers ensure that there is little to no runoff. Know why? Chemicals are expensive, and they'd rather have them do their job on the Turf instead of in the river. Applications are dosed and timed to ensure this.

I’m sure that you really believe that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people would like to tax country clubs into bankruptcy and then use the land for low income housing.

That would actually be an incredibly useful thing to do with that otherwise useless land. There is a crushing shortage of affordable housing in Montgomery county. Offering housing options for low income earners close to places where many of them can find work would be a huge boon. It would cut down on pollution as many would have access to public transit or could simply bike or walk to work. Being closer to employment would also reduce time wasted commuting, and allow low income parents to spend more time with children.



Chevy Chase Club is 190 acres. Imagine the number of lower income families that could benefit from high-density affordable housing in that location. Many of these people would be within a short distance of the businesses and homes were they are working jobs right now.

If the country club closed the people who used it would leave for another neighborhood that still had a country club. So - jobs gone.