TMZ reporting Parkland leader David Hogg just got into Harvard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do Harvard professors (not administrators) say, off the record, about this policy of admitting students as conversation pieces rather than because they will contribute to the scholarly community?

I'm the poster who really isn't qualified to comment on Mr. Hogg in particular, so I won't. It's just that this seems like the way to select dinner party guests, not new members of a university.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[Shrugs] This conception of "leadership" does not reflect any values I understand or appreciate, and is really incompatible with the aims of undergraduate education as I see them.

You get credit for admitting that it is your shortcoming.

[Anonymous]

Well now that he’s in, let’s see if he can stay in. Even with the softer grading attributed to the Ivies, his academic stats don’t signal success in a challenging educational institution. Unless community organizing matters...wait a minute, we all know a community organizer. He was elected President! Go you David! Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Clearly being groomed to take over Wasserman-Schultz's congressional seat. He didn't get in on merit, he got in because of DNC connections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well now that he’s in, let’s see if he can stay in. Even with the softer grading attributed to the Ivies, his academic stats don’t signal success in a challenging educational institution. Unless community organizing matters...wait a minute, we all know a community organizer. He was elected President! Go you David! Good luck.

I know two total dummies who "work" in non-profit who completed bachelors at Harvard. It's impossible to fail out unless you literally leave Boston. Kushner also completed his bachelors even though he was a C student at a Hebrew high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry but I’m not a fan of him taking a spot from a kid who deserves it.

This. Probably an Asian-American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well now that he’s in, let’s see if he can stay in. Even with the softer grading attributed to the Ivies, his academic stats don’t signal success in a challenging educational institution. Unless community organizing matters...wait a minute, we all know a community organizer. He was elected President! Go you David! Good luck.

Ha! "Softer grading..." lol you didn't attend one, did you?

Anonymous wrote:Clearly being groomed to take over Wasserman-Schultz's congressional seat. He didn't get in on merit, he got in because of DNC connections.

Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the latest edition of "Bullshit Asserted Without Evidence!" You have no idea what "merit" is to Harvard, clearly. Stop speaking of which you know nothing and go read a book, or maybe the first post in that "open letter" thread. You need it.

Anonymous wrote:I know two total dummies who "work" in non-profit who completed bachelors at Harvard. It's impossible to fail out unless you literally leave Boston. Kushner also completed his bachelors even though he was a C student at a Hebrew high school.

And here is our second entry in "B.A.W.E."! I don't like Kushner, but using "Hebrew High School" as a pejorative... sweet move Mein Herr!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clearly being groomed to take over Wasserman-Schultz's congressional seat. He didn't get in on merit, he got in because of DNC connections.

Well let’s be honest. He would be a definite improvement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is well said. Also let’s not forget that Harvard is currently fighting a very difficult law suit attacking their admissions practices which are suspect at best. What better way to get some positive PR by accepting a sub par (by Harvard’s own standards) that will almost certainly generate press. Hm.....

The fact that you post this shows you have no idea what "Harvard's own standards" are. He is the embodiment of exactly their most important standard for admission, which is why they reject so many 36/4.0. He is not sub-par, he is an extraordinary applicant.

It is astounding to me that people still don't get this.

An extraordinary applicant? Really? On the basis of what? Because he was able to get on TV and expose a view that many share especially in light of the terrible circumstances? No one of this board really knows this student’s intelligence and capabilities that would make home an “extraordinary applicant”. We’ve only read about the students scores and grades. Doubtful any one really knows one way or the other. This all about the studebt’s views and how they fit into a more liberal setting and the good PR Harvard gets from this.

YES! I keep telling you this. He started a movement (with others), it got national and global attention, and he got famous. He had experiences nearly no other student has had and is poised to take that media experience into future leadership. It is what makes him extraordinary and desirable to Harvard.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Ok ok we get it! My DC’s stats are Ivy material but we have no hooks....so we will have DC start a movement and DC will gain admission to Harvard! Hey posters, any is eas for the “movement”?

Promise that it won’t matter that the idea has been debated for years..we will just need to figure out how to get it on TV without a terrible tragedy happening.

Sure, if your DC has the courage to stand up for a cause, has the skills in communication and manage to get a huge mass to engage in the movement, your DC sure deserves a top school as he would have made impact to our lives. Go ahead show us his/her commitment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of jealous parents here, it seems. I mean, it’s not like he’s going to an even better school—UVA—right, dcum?

+1

Actually it's quite entertaining to see how worked up people are. He is going to do great for Harvard.

I agree. He's a great choice, and people are obviously jealous and mean spirited. Congratulations, David! You are awesome and you will do well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is well said. Also let’s not forget that Harvard is currently fighting a very difficult law suit attacking their admissions practices which are suspect at best. What better way to get some positive PR by accepting a sub par (by Harvard’s own standards) that will almost certainly generate press. Hm.....

The fact that you post this shows you have no idea what "Harvard's own standards" are. He is the embodiment of exactly their most important standard for admission, which is why they reject so many 36/4.0. He is not sub-par, he is an extraordinary applicant.

It is astounding to me that people still don't get this.

An extraordinary applicant? Really? On the basis of what? Because he was able to get on TV and expose a view that many share especially in light of the terrible circumstances? No one of this board really knows this student’s intelligence and capabilities that would make home an “extraordinary applicant”. We’ve only read about the students scores and grades. Doubtful any one really knows one way or the other. This all about the studebt’s views and how they fit into a more liberal setting and the good PR Harvard gets from this.

YES! I keep telling you this. He started a movement (with others), it got national and global attention, and he got famous. He had experiences nearly no other student has had and is poised to take that media experience into future leadership. It is what makes him extraordinary and desirable to Harvard.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Ok ok we get it! My DC’s stats are Ivy material but we have no hooks....so we will have DC start a movement and DC will gain admission to Harvard! Hey posters, any is eas for the “movement”?

Promise that it won’t matter that the idea has been debated for years..we will just need to figure out how to get it on TV without a terrible tragedy happening.

Just like thousands of other kids.

No need to get nasty over another child’s achievements (and acceptance) just because your kid didn’t.

[Anonymous]

All of the uber-competitive schools are more than just stats. The number of straight A/1600 students they turn away every year is consistent. Just being a good student isn't enough. Strong athlete, or actor in a broadcast series or leading a national political movement are the types of things these schools look for - and not in the parent bulldozing way, but as it grows out of passion.

[Anonymous]

If Harvard wants to tout its tough admissions standards (which it does) then it shouldn’t admit a subpar student in order to take advantage of the PR whilst they are in the midst of a tough law suit over their admissions practices which many legal experts are saying they very well may lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Harvard wants to tout its tough admissions standards (which it does) then it shouldn’t admit a subpar student in order to take advantage of the PR whilst they are in the midst of a tough law suit over their admissions practices which many legal experts are saying they very well may lose.

In what way is he subpar - he more than met Harvard's admission standards. His achievements on the national stage in relation to a very hot button topic is well known and a feather in Harvard's cap. (P.S. you really need to give up on the lawsuit thing; you're beating a dead horse).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do Harvard professors (not administrators) say, off the record, about this policy of admitting students as conversation pieces rather than because they will contribute to the scholarly community?

I'm the poster who really isn't qualified to comment on Mr. Hogg in particular, so I won't. It's just that this seems like the way to select dinner party guests, not new members of a university.

+1000

I'm an academic and I guarantee you that no Harvard professor is bothered one bit about Hogg's admission. Every freshman class at every school includes an array of kids who bring different experiences and knowledge to the table. Hogg has done more to prove he can fulfill high expectations than most overachieving HS seniors, and much more than many other admits. I find it much more disturbing that the 89th son of an Arab despot who could barely write English was accepted to my university.