The gay marriage issue.

[Anonymous]

what is the rule now with regard to gay couples that want to adopt? do courts prefer hetero couples over gay couple? certainly it seems logical, that if everything else is equal, a child should have a mom and a dad instead of two moms or two dads. how would gay marriage affect this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what is the rule now with regard to gay couples that want to adopt? do courts prefer hetero couples over gay couple? certainly it seems logical, that if everything else is equal, a child should have a mom and a dad instead of two moms or two dads. how would gay marriage affect this?

Perhaps the adoption agencies will look at each case, decide what kind of parents the couple will make, and get more kids out of institutions and into homes.

[Anonymous]

there is no way i would want kids being adopted by a gay couple if there was an equally qualified hetero couple wanting to adopt as well. why make a child go through that, the teasing and ridicule, even if the gay couple were good parents? all studies show that children do better with male and female role models. now you are just being obstinate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:there is no way i would want kids being adopted by a gay couple if there was an equally qualified hetero couple wanting to adopt as well. why make a child go through that, the teasing and ridicule, even if the gay couple were good parents? all studies show that children do better with male and female role models. now you are just being obstinate.

That's one big "if" you got there. You think we have a qualified couple for every kid????

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:there is no way i would want kids being adopted by a gay couple if there was an equally qualified hetero couple wanting to adopt as well. why make a child go through that, the teasing and ridicule, even if the gay couple were good parents? all studies show that children do better with male and female role models. now you are just being obstinate.

That's one big "if" you got there. You think we have a qualified couple for every kid????

no, but I wouldnt want an adoption judge be forced by law to not even consider the benefits of male/female parenting when making that decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When it comes down to the bottom line, there is no constitutional requirement that the law be logical. So the majority has the right to dictate to the minority.

The good news from Maine is that it is now a 53% majority, not the 90% it would have been a few decades ago. There is hope.

Then you oppose the Bill of Rights in the Constitution. You would put the freedom of press, freedom of association, freedom of religion to a vote? That's completely unamerican! You scare me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there is no way i would want kids being adopted by a gay couple if there was an equally qualified hetero couple wanting to adopt as well. why make a child go through that, the teasing and ridicule, even if the gay couple were good parents? all studies show that children do better with male and female role models. now you are just being obstinate.

That's one big "if" you got there. You think we have a qualified couple for every kid????

no, but I wouldnt want an adoption judge be forced by law to not even consider the benefits of male/female parenting when making that decision.

Oh puh-lease -- all the arguments against gay marriage seem to be of the floodgate variety. Let gays marry and suddenly overnight we'd legalize polygamy and heterosexual couples would be discriminated against in adoption!

As I noted earlier, it assumes that people, especially our legislators, have absolutely no control over themselves. And when people respond with reasonable arguments, your only approach is to repeat yourself. This is lazy thinking and it's getting repetitive.

BTW, you are really ignorant about the lack of adoptive parents out there and the state of the child welfare system. You should educate yourself about the situation as it exists not as you imagine it to be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there is no way i would want kids being adopted by a gay couple if there was an equally qualified hetero couple wanting to adopt as well. why make a child go through that, the teasing and ridicule, even if the gay couple were good parents? all studies show that children do better with male and female role models. now you are just being obstinate.

That's one big "if" you got there. You think we have a qualified couple for every kid????

no, but I wouldnt want an adoption judge be forced by law to not even consider the benefits of male/female parenting when making that decision.

Earth to pp: adoption judges don't choose the adoptive parents for a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what is the rule now with regard to gay couples that want to adopt? do courts prefer hetero couples over gay couple? certainly it seems logical, that if everything else is equal, a child should have a mom and a dad instead of two moms or two dads. how would gay marriage affect this?

Under this view of the world, single parents aren't qualified either. I'd rather see a child in a loving home (with two parents of whatever gender who demonstrate how to love with respect), than in with a straight couple who can't demonstrate love and respect.

And what about those straight homes where the parents choose not to marry? Again, I think demonstrated committment between parents is more important than the gender of the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:no, but I wouldnt want an adoption judge be forced by law to not even consider the benefits of male/female parenting when making that decision.

Saying that the gay and straight couple have equal rights does not negate the primary criterion of doing what is best for the child. But I do think it worth adding that the argument that a child in a same-sex marriage will suffer taunts from other kids disappears when gay marriages become accepted. Nevertheless, I am sure studies will continue to be made and acted upon, concerning the effect on the child of different parental combinations, and this data will be factored into adoption decisions.

However, I would hope that statistics will never outweigh an individual look at the qualifications of the actual people applying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the danger with polygamy -- that young girls will be forced into marriage and abused such as with the Warren Jeffs case. There is a perfectly good reason to keep restrictions on polygamy but no reason to keep two consenting adults from being joined in marriage.

That problem is easily solved by existing age-of-consent laws, and provides no reason to keep three consenting adults from being joined in marriage.

And it's working so well so far. Read more about the Jeffs case and see what good that law did for young people forced into this situation.

The solution to this problem would be to enforce the existing age of consent laws.

[Anonymous]

New Poster here. I hope the anti-gay marriage poster, who is getting into polygamy and now gays adopting (gasp) is the same poster. Scary to think there could be more than one of her....

Please tell me what horrible things will happen to our society if gays are allowed to marry? And encouraged to adopt? Even polygamy, if between consenting adults, fails to scare me. The abuse of young girls under the cover of polygamy is another issue altogether.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Poster here. I hope the anti-gay marriage poster, who is getting into polygamy and now gays adopting (gasp) is the same poster. Scary to think there could be more than one of her....

Please tell me what horrible things will happen to our society if gays are allowed to marry? And encouraged to adopt? Even polygamy, if between consenting adults, fails to scare me. The abuse of young girls under the cover of polygamy is another issue altogether.

I've posted before. I am more worried about the deterioration of the family unit than I am what constitutes a committed family. I think legal ties by marriage encourage family units. Our welfare system has actually worked against the family unit (remaining unmarried to get support from the state rather than from the father). Even a polygamist marriage, gasp, is a family unit.

I am so confused with the right banging the family drum, but not encouraging loving families.

[Anonymous]

Just seems to me that this issue is overblown. Gays are likely 2% tops of the total population. If half of them want to get married, and 60% (estimates of gay divorce rate) end up getting divorced, just not an issue to be that worried about. Not enough people affected. I wish every small minority was helped more, but life isnt always fair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New Poster here. I hope the anti-gay marriage poster, who is getting into polygamy and now gays adopting (gasp) is the same poster. Scary to think there could be more than one of her....

Please tell me what horrible things will happen to our society if gays are allowed to marry? And encouraged to adopt? Even polygamy, if between consenting adults, fails to scare me. The abuse of young girls under the cover of polygamy is another issue altogether.

I've posted before. I am more worried about the deterioration of the family unit than I am what constitutes a committed family. I think legal ties by marriage encourage family units. Our welfare system has actually worked against the family unit (remaining unmarried to get support from the state rather than from the father). Even a polygamist marriage, gasp, is a family unit.

I am so confused with the right banging the family drum, but not encouraging loving families.

Your post appears to be in response to mine. I am confused. We seem to be on the same side of the issue - pro gay marriage. I don't understand why you are responding to me?