The gay marriage issue.

Anonymous
I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Why are we hung up on formalities about people who love each other? Why don't we focus our political efforts on dealing with all the hatred, war, poverty, etc. in the world? Let people who love each other be with each other.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Why are we hung up on formalities about people who love each other? Why don't we focus our political efforts on dealing with all the hatred, war, poverty, etc. in the world? Let people who love each other be with each other.


nobody is saying homos can't be with each other - just don't marry each other.
Anonymous
I find the idea of being married to a man, rather than to my BW, repugnant. I would oppose any law that would force me to marry a man. And I would oppose any law that would stop me from marrying the one I love if she happened to be of a different religion or race.

But none of the same sex marriage laws force anyone to marry someone they don't love or deny anyone the right to marry the one they do love. Quite the contrary, it is present law that restricts freedom!

What the majority trying to do is protect the definition of a word. Heck, I hate it when people use "disinterested" to mean "uninterested", but we don't make a referendum out of it, do we?
Anonymous
Because if you let homos marry, then straight marriage will be ruined because those homos will be at our party.

Because if you let homos marry, then once people know you can marry gay, everyone will turn gay.

Because it makes me sick thinking of what those people do in their bedrooms.

Because it's unnatural.

Because if you let homos marry, they might adopt (or create) children, and then those children will be gay.

Because if you let homos marry, I "worry about the children."

Because God hates fags (the Bible says so), and so we should hate them and beat them to death, too. It's only Christian.

Do you all understand how stupid this is? My right wing Republican sister, who I fully expected to be opposite me on this, put it best: She is all for anything that celebrates stable families, stable commitments, and love.

~Straight married Christian mom with kids, who also thinks this is a civil/human rights issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Why are we hung up on formalities about people who love each other? Why don't we focus our political efforts on dealing with all the hatred, war, poverty, etc. in the world? Let people who love each other be with each other.


nobody is saying homos can't be with each other - just don't marry each other.


Why do you care who "homos" are with or whether they marry? It doesn't affect you, at all. In no way. At all. In places where it -or civil unions- are legalized, the sky has not fallen. Life has continued.

I for the life of me do not know why any person would spend their time obsessing on or opposing whether 2 gay people should marry or not. Or, for that matter, could oppose it given our constitution. It is bigotry, plain and simple. And, the "slippery slope" arguments could be used in any circumstance. Not a very strong defense.

Many opponents oppose it on religious grounds. I can only speak to the folks I know, who are Christians. And, I find their position to be one of the most un-christian that they could take. And the money that opponents have spent on what amounts to a very personal issue could have been put to so much better use, eg., feeding the poor, etc. Such a waste and an embarrassment.

I'm a married, hetero, fwiw.
Anonymous
hardly would say I obsess over it. But if it is on the ballot, I am going to vote against it. I don't care if homos live together, just like I don't care if unmarried heteros live together. Let's just keep marriage the way it has been for thousands of year in our society. It aint broke, don't fix it. what is the big deal about getting married? why can't you respect tradition?

as for the slippery slope - islamic immigrants to europe are starting to push for multiple wives. how will that not be an issue here soon?
Anonymous
Let us ignore some of the inflammatory mean posts.
But here is a question: IF you support gay marriage and oppose polygamy, please explain why.
Anonymous
Let's just keep marriage the way it has been for thousands of year in our society. It aint broke, don't fix it.


It IS broken. Our gay brothers and sisters don't have the same rights as we do. That's as broken as it gets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let us ignore some of the inflammatory mean posts.
But here is a question: IF you support gay marriage and oppose polygamy, please explain why.


How about: IF you oppose gay marriage and support polygamy, please explain why. That's just as relevant.
Anonymous
But here is a question: IF you support gay marriage and oppose polygamy, please explain why.


Leaving aside the misogynistic history of polygamy and the fact that being gay is a biological trait, I think practically and logistically, it's just easier and makes more sense to limit marriage to being between two people. I think each of us should be able to pick the one person that we love and want to spend our life with. It's simple to me.
Anonymous
billions of muslims oppose gay marriage and support polygamy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
But here is a question: IF you support gay marriage and oppose polygamy, please explain why.


Leaving aside the misogynistic history of polygamy and the fact that being gay is a biological trait, I think practically and logistically, it's just easier and makes more sense to limit marriage to being between two people. I think each of us should be able to pick the one person that we love and want to spend our life with. It's simple to me.


so YOU can tell us who we can and cannot marry? My tradition is that a man can have more than one wife. Why so close minded?
Anonymous
so YOU can tell us who we can and cannot marry? My tradition is that a man can have more than one wife. Why so close minded?


Honestly, I don't get that worked up about polygamy. I don't care too much one way or the other, and in this country it's a moot point because there is not currently any movement of any size to legalize polygamy. But for the purposes of this straw man argument, it makes perfect sense that a government could allow a man to marry another man and not change the definition of marriage to include multiple parties. Right now, it's an issue of equal protection. Let's let each of us, gay and straight, decide the one person that we want to marry.

Polygamy is a separate, entirely unrelated issue. It has nothing to do with gay marriage.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:billions of muslims oppose gay marriage and support polygamy.


Huh? There are not even billions of muslims in existence. Moreover, not all of them support polygamy and some support gay marriage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let us ignore some of the inflammatory mean posts.
But here is a question: IF you support gay marriage and oppose polygamy, please explain why.


How about: IF you oppose gay marriage and support polygamy, please explain why. That's just as relevant.


Agree.
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