I don't want to supplement at home

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble figuring out where OP and other parents on this thread think supplementing-at-home starts and ends in its interface with your garden variety domesticity in the homes of affluent, uber educated parents. For example, we are a geography oriented family, meaning that we have "map time" before bed, rather than reading-a-story-time. We play "globe games" in the evenings, just for fun. Does our quirky bedtime routine constitute supplementing? We don't drill the kids in any subject in particular outside of the DCPS curriculum, but speak a language other than English at home (and consistently require the kids to answer in the language), and love history, politics, literature, anthropology, archeology and so forth. The kids pick up on our intellectual interests, and run with some of them in their reading, summer camp and play choices. We will opt out of standardized testing, lacking interest in how our children would score on the PARCC. Are we supplementing by making unusual lifestyle choices, or simply celebrating our joy of nerdy pursuits in a manner that draws in the next generation?

I hate when people do this. This thread is NOT about you and you know this is NOT what PPs were talking about. Go gush about your awesomeoness somewhere else.

It's a fair point. With so many braniacs on the Hill these days, no shortage of kids whose parents earned multiple STEM graduate degrees and have high-powered jobs. These kids tend to learn more at home than at school, even if official supplementing isn't done. At Brent, we've got some students whose parents are NASA engineers, because the agency's HQ is a few blocks away. These parents design Mars rovers and satellites, and instill an appreciation of math learning in their children. I hate it when people pretend that DC public schools are where the children of the highly educated do most of their learning.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble figuring out where OP and other parents on this thread think supplementing-at-home starts and ends in its interface with your garden variety domesticity in the homes of affluent, uber educated parents. For example, we are a geography oriented family, meaning that we have "map time" before bed, rather than reading-a-story-time. We play "globe games" in the evenings, just for fun. Does our quirky bedtime routine constitute supplementing? We don't drill the kids in any subject in particular outside of the DCPS curriculum, but speak a language other than English at home (and consistently require the kids to answer in the language), and love history, politics, literature, anthropology, archeology and so forth. The kids pick up on our intellectual interests, and run with some of them in their reading, summer camp and play choices. We will opt out of standardized testing, lacking interest in how our children would score on the PARCC. Are we supplementing by making unusual lifestyle choices, or simply celebrating our joy of nerdy pursuits in a manner that draws in the next generation?

I hate when people do this. This thread is NOT about you and you know this is NOT what PPs were talking about. Go gush about your awesomeoness somewhere else.

Hahaha! So DC with all of your "intellectual interests."

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble figuring out where OP and other parents on this thread think supplementing-at-home starts and ends in its interface with your garden variety domesticity in the homes of affluent, uber educated parents. For example, we are a geography oriented family, meaning that we have "map time" before bed, rather than reading-a-story-time. We play "globe games" in the evenings, just for fun. Does our quirky bedtime routine constitute supplementing? We don't drill the kids in any subject in particular outside of the DCPS curriculum, but speak a language other than English at home (and consistently require the kids to answer in the language), and love history, politics, literature, anthropology, archeology and so forth. The kids pick up on our intellectual interests, and run with some of them in their reading, summer camp and play choices. We will opt out of standardized testing, lacking interest in how our children would score on the PARCC. Are we supplementing by making unusual lifestyle choices, or simply celebrating our joy of nerdy pursuits in a manner that draws in the next generation?

I hate when people do this. This thread is NOT about you and you know this is NOT what PPs were talking about. Go gush about your awesomeoness somewhere else.

It's a fair point. With so many braniacs on the Hill these days, no shortage of kids whose parents earned multiple STEM graduate degrees and have high-powered jobs. These kids tend to learn more at home than at school, even if official supplementing isn't done. At Brent, we've got some students whose parents are NASA engineers, because the agency's HQ is a few blocks away. These parents design Mars rovers and satellites, and instill an appreciation of math learning in their children. I hate it when people pretend that DC public schools are where the children of the highly educated do most of their learning.

Sure, but it is a topic for a different thread. As OP reaffirmed, her concern is not this stuff -- it is whether all DCPS schools are in fact so behind that she needs Kumon to teach long division and a tutor to develop writing skills. Her concerns were very basic.

But it would be great fun to read a separate thread about "your garden variety domesticity in the homes of affluent, uber educated parents."

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they supplement at YY or LAMB outside of language supplementation?

YY family here. We only supplement for things like religious instruction, another language (not Mandarin) and sports and hobbies. The other families we know do the same. I don't know anyone who supplements for academics, math, reading, but we are in an upper grade with a child who is 2-3 grade levels ahead without outside help. Yu Ying does a good job with differentiation in their classrooms.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble figuring out where OP and other parents on this thread think supplementing-at-home starts and ends in its interface with your garden variety domesticity in the homes of affluent, uber educated parents. For example, we are a geography oriented family, meaning that we have "map time" before bed, rather than reading-a-story-time. We play "globe games" in the evenings, just for fun. Does our quirky bedtime routine constitute supplementing? We don't drill the kids in any subject in particular outside of the DCPS curriculum, but speak a language other than English at home (and consistently require the kids to answer in the language), and love history, politics, literature, anthropology, archeology and so forth. The kids pick up on our intellectual interests, and run with some of them in their reading, summer camp and play choices. We will opt out of standardized testing, lacking interest in how our children would score on the PARCC. Are we supplementing by making unusual lifestyle choices, or simply celebrating our joy of nerdy pursuits in a manner that draws in the next generation?

I hate when people do this. This thread is NOT about you and you know this is NOT what PPs were talking about. Go gush about your awesomeoness somewhere else.

It's a fair point. With so many braniacs on the Hill these days, no shortage of kids whose parents earned multiple STEM graduate degrees and have high-powered jobs. These kids tend to learn more at home than at school, even if official supplementing isn't done. At Brent, we've got some students whose parents are NASA engineers, because the agency's HQ is a few blocks away. These parents design Mars rovers and satellites, and instill an appreciation of math learning in their children. I hate it when people pretend that DC public schools are where the children of the highly educated do most of their learning.

So you DON'T resent ALL the OOB families. What a relief!

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, can you imagine the level of insecurity?

"You mustn't mention Kumon at school,Larla. Ever."

"Pourquoi pas, Mama? Is learning and enrichment shameful?"

"No, poppet! But we don't want to hand anything to anyone else. Let them do their own work!"

All seriousness: am I just coming from a position of massive privilege or ignorance that I don't understand your thinking at all? Was everything handed to me too easily?

No, your question is normal. That PP is batshit crazy.

Lol--you have no idea. I would never take my children to Kumon or any other such tutoring/enrichment center. All of my materials are in-house and proprietary

LOL - you have no idea. Developing your own curricular materials for elementary school and then getting agitated about it, is what's batshit crazy. We would never consider Kumon or your personal flavor of insanity.

There is a middle ground guano-lady.

Why do you care so much about what I do with MY children? I don't give a crap about what you do in your house. You sound crazy and insecure. Good luck with that!

Honey, I'm not insecure and I couldn't give less of a damn what you do in your house. What's insane is that on the one hand you want to wave your flag about how you developed your own curricular materials (okay crazy homeschooler) and then, when people you know (presumably the families of your child's classmates - to whom you've no doubt bragged incessantly to) ask you about the materials you take a weird attitude. MINE MINE MINE!!!

Sure they're yours, and honestly who cares? The point is that there is something very strange about being president of your personal fan club and then resentful when other people (again - sounds like these are your child's peers - a normal person might want to get along with these folks if only for their child's sake) ask you questions about everything you're going out of your way to brag about.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, can you imagine the level of insecurity?

"You mustn't mention Kumon at school,Larla. Ever."

"Pourquoi pas, Mama? Is learning and enrichment shameful?"

"No, poppet! But we don't want to hand anything to anyone else. Let them do their own work!"

All seriousness: am I just coming from a position of massive privilege or ignorance that I don't understand your thinking at all? Was everything handed to me too easily?

No, your question is normal. That PP is batshit crazy.

Lol--you have no idea. I would never take my children to Kumon or any other such tutoring/enrichment center. All of my materials are in-house and proprietary

LOL - you have no idea. Developing your own curricular materials for elementary school and then getting agitated about it, is what's batshit crazy. We would never consider Kumon or your personal flavor of insanity.

There is a middle ground guano-lady.

Why do you care so much about what I do with MY children? I don't give a crap about what you do in your house. You sound crazy and insecure. Good luck with that!

Honey, I'm not insecure and I couldn't give less of a damn what you do in your house. What's insane is that on the one hand you want to wave your flag about how you developed your own curricular materials (okay crazy homeschooler) and then, when people you know (presumably the families of your child's classmates - to whom you've no doubt bragged incessantly to) ask you about the materials you take a weird attitude. MINE MINE MINE!!!

Sure they're yours, and honestly who cares? The point is that there is something very strange about being president of your personal fan club and then resentful when other people (again - sounds like these are your child's peers - a normal person might want to get along with these folks if only for their child's sake) ask you questions about everything you're going out of your way to brag about.

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Anonymous wrote:NP -- OP didn't ask if there is a school where no one supplements. There is no chance that such a school exists in the greater DC area. LOL. And that is fine-- parents' prerogative. But OP wants to know if it is possible to go to a DCPS school and have your child achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. It is. We don't supplement either. No need to. Kids scored 5s on PARCC and are in the advanced track at Deal with no extra supplements or tutors.

Yes! this is the question. It sounds like there are places in DCPS where it is possible to achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. Great! Wonderful! I'd like to go to these open houses. Can people please start identifying these schools? Thanks.

Murch and Deal for us.

Start identifying these DCPS schools? Please, it's a no brainer for anybody who's been in the city more than a month in Upper NW. The school are in Upper NW or on Cap Hill, the ones with the highest percentages of white and high SES families. Just look on the DCPS School Profile pages to find them. You set your own "floor" cut-off for high SES and white. So the group includes Janney, Lafayette, Ken, Murch, Man, Stoddert, maybe Hearst, Eaton, Shepherd and Brent for ES, and Deal and Wilson post ES.

Wrong. Hearst, Eaton and Shepherd are definitely NOT on the list. Oyster belongs though. There are also a few "highly regarded charters" people leave JKLM for, so they should be included like Yu Ying and LAMB. You just can't count on buying your way into them like JKLM.

Because you have kids at these schools and know? I love how people just spout off with zero information.

Give me a break. Hardly anybody in-boundary avoids or leaves JKLM, or Brent, for Yu Ying or LAMB. The commute to YY is too much, and immersion without a target language dominant lottery is too lame. JKLM and Brent are much stronger academically, particularly for math in the upper grades.

Looks like there are a few dozen folks WOTP at Yu Ying and LAMB, and more from the Hill (not just Brent zone): http://www.dcpcsb.org/washington-yu-ying-pcs-student-location-map and http://www.dcpcsb.org/latin-american-montessori-bilingual-pcs-student-location-map

Part of the reason why there are relatively few is that if you get in to a HRCS and live WOTP, you may move closer to your kid's school in a couple years. Why pay WOTP prices and have that commute if you think you'd be happy all the way through DCI?

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Looks like there are a few dozen folks WOTP at Yu Ying and LAMB, and more from the Hill (not just Brent zone): http://www.dcpcsb.org/washington-yu-ying-pcs-student-location-map and http://www.dcpcsb.org/latin-american-montessori-bi...ngual-pcs-student-location-map

Part of the reason why there are relatively few is that if you get in to a HRCS and live WOTP, you may move closer to your kid's school in a couple years. Why pay WOTP prices and have that commute if you think you'd be happy all the way through DCI?

If you look closely at the maps you provided, you see that the LAMB families west of the park are mostly living in rental or condo buildings. Those parents might feel like moving, because it's easy to pack up one U-Haul when you're renting. The +/- 12 SFH dwellers who live in Ward 3 and attend YY aren't going to see the family home in Chevy Chase and move to Ft Totten. C'mon. These are not interchangeable things.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they supplement at YY or LAMB outside of language supplementation?

Of course some of the high SES families supplement. Advanced/GT math isn't offered at YY, at least not formally, and LAMB's Montessori curriculum is pretty chaotic in the implementation in the upper grades. A good many high SES families quietly hire math tutors, send kids to summer enrichment programs, including DCPS summer school (mornings for 5 weeks from late June through July), Math Tree and Johns Hopkins CTY, no matter which public school their kids attend. We've run into YY and LAMB families at JH CTY in Alexandria. Parents with smarts know that, by 5th grade, the DCPS math curriculum is 2-3 years behind the math curricula of rich and middle-income countries that do a better job of teaching math than the US.

I recognize those loooooong paragraphs anywhere - it's Heritage DAD!

Everyone - brace yourself for some racism.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble figuring out where OP and other parents on this thread think supplementing-at-home starts and ends in its interface with your garden variety domesticity in the homes of affluent, uber educated parents. For example, we are a geography oriented family, meaning that we have "map time" before bed, rather than reading-a-story-time. We play "globe games" in the evenings, just for fun. Does our quirky bedtime routine constitute supplementing? We don't drill the kids in any subject in particular outside of the DCPS curriculum, but speak a language other than English at home (and consistently require the kids to answer in the language), and love history, politics, literature, anthropology, archeology and so forth. The kids pick up on our intellectual interests, and run with some of them in their reading, summer camp and play choices. We will opt out of standardized testing, lacking interest in how our children would score on the PARCC. Are we supplementing by making unusual lifestyle choices, or simply celebrating our joy of nerdy pursuits in a manner that draws in the next generation?

I hate when people do this. This thread is NOT about you and you know this is NOT what PPs were talking about. Go gush about your awesomeoness somewhere else.

This is Heritage Dad. He is a known troll who loves to talk about how awesome he is. His kids speak some chinese dialect - I think he's of Taiwanese heritage- and he's pretty racist and clueless. I keep hoping he gets a job finally goes away. Ignore him.

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Looks like there are a few dozen folks WOTP at Yu Ying and LAMB, and more from the Hill (not just Brent zone): http://www.dcpcsb.org/washington-yu-ying-pcs-student-location-map and http://www.dcpcsb.org/latin-american-montessori-bi...ngual-pcs-student-location-map

Part of the reason why there are relatively few is that if you get in to a HRCS and live WOTP, you may move closer to your kid's school in a couple years. Why pay WOTP prices and have that commute if you think you'd be happy all the way through DCI?

If you look closely at the maps you provided, you see that the LAMB families west of the park are mostly living in rental or condo buildings. Those parents might feel like moving, because it's easy to pack up one U-Haul when you're renting. The +/- 12 SFH dwellers who live in Ward 3 and attend YY aren't going to see the family home in Chevy Chase and move to Ft Totten. C'mon. These are not interchangeable things.

I looked at the map and nowhere did it note that people were living in rental properties.

Furthermore, it makes a ton of sense to sell your Chevy Chase or woodley park or Capitol Hill home and move to Michigan park right now. Housing costs are soaring, interest rates are low, and if you don't care about schools, it makes sense to move to a closer and cheaper neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they supplement at YY or LAMB outside of language supplementation?

Of course some of the high SES families supplement. Advanced/GT math isn't offered at YY, at least not formally, and LAMB's Montessori curriculum is pretty chaotic in the implementation in the upper grades. A good many high SES families quietly hire math tutors, send kids to summer enrichment programs, including DCPS summer school (mornings for 5 weeks from late June through July), Math Tree and Johns Hopkins CTY, no matter which public school their kids attend. We've run into YY and LAMB families at JH CTY in Alexandria. Parents with smarts know that, by 5th grade, the DCPS math curriculum is 2-3 years behind the math curricula of rich and middle-income countries that do a better job of teaching math than the US.

Hi Heritage dad! This is the first I've heard about LAMB having any issues when it comes to Math. Or is this another one of your made up and racist diatribes? Thought as much.

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Looks like there are a few dozen folks WOTP at Yu Ying and LAMB, and more from the Hill (not just Brent zone): http://www.dcpcsb.org/washington-yu-ying-pcs-student-location-map and http://www.dcpcsb.org/latin-american-montessori-bi...ngual-pcs-student-location-map

Part of the reason why there are relatively few is that if you get in to a HRCS and live WOTP, you may move closer to your kid's school in a couple years. Why pay WOTP prices and have that commute if you think you'd be happy all the way through DCI?

If you look closely at the maps you provided, you see that the LAMB families west of the park are mostly living in rental or condo buildings. Those parents might feel like moving, because it's easy to pack up one U-Haul when you're renting. The +/- 12 SFH dwellers who live in Ward 3 and attend YY aren't going to see the family home in Chevy Chase and move to Ft Totten. C'mon. These are not interchangeable things.

I looked at the map and nowhere did it note that people were living in rental properties.

Furthermore, it makes a ton of sense to sell your Chevy Chase or woodley park or Capitol Hill home and move to Michigan park right now. Housing costs are soaring, interest rates are low, and if you don't care about schools, it makes sense to move to a closer and cheaper neighborhood.

Said no one ever

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Looks like there are a few dozen folks WOTP at Yu Ying and LAMB, and more from the Hill (not just Brent zone): http://www.dcpcsb.org/washington-yu-ying-pcs-student-location-map and http://www.dcpcsb.org/latin-american-montessori-bi...ngual-pcs-student-location-map

Part of the reason why there are relatively few is that if you get in to a HRCS and live WOTP, you may move closer to your kid's school in a couple years. Why pay WOTP prices and have that commute if you think you'd be happy all the way through DCI?

If you look closely at the maps you provided, you see that the LAMB families west of the park are mostly living in rental or condo buildings. Those parents might feel like moving, because it's easy to pack up one U-Haul when you're renting. The +/- 12 SFH dwellers who live in Ward 3 and attend YY aren't going to see the family home in Chevy Chase and move to Ft Totten. C'mon. These are not interchangeable things.

I looked at the map and nowhere did it note that people were living in rental properties.

Furthermore, it makes a ton of sense to sell your Chevy Chase or woodley park or Capitol Hill home and move to Michigan park right now. Housing costs are soaring, interest rates are low, and if you don't care about schools, it makes sense to move to a closer and cheaper neighborhood.

Said no one ever

Maybe in your circle- the financially illiterate.