Is it just me or was Carrie Bradshaw the most annoying character from the 90s?

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Anonymous wrote:How do you tell a story of someone for six years without ever uttering a word about her parents? Where is the family? What does she do for Christmas? Does she have any brothers or sisters?

I totally agree that the lack of basic family info was ridiculous, but I read an interview back then where showrunner Michael Patrick King said it was a deliberate decision because the "girls" were each other's "family." Before he was in charge we met Charlotte's brother and Big's ex-wife and mother, but all other non-friends quickly disappeared. It was particularly glaring during Charlotte's weddings.

I found the lack of family at the wedding to be extremely odd.

The show wasn't about their families. That was on purpose. I don't think it was out of laziness from the writers or lack of creativity. It was obviously deliberate for them not to talk about their families, ever.

I'm not saying it wasn't deliberate. I am saying that the choice to leave out any mention of family has produced a one-dimensional character.

I understand they were trying to push the idea that the girls were each other's family but the thing is that friends don't replace family unless the family is completely dysfunctional, and if it is, then it will make a mark on a person. Friends augment families, they don't replace them. The show presented these women like they just sprung from earth with nothing shaping them prior to emerging in Manhattan.

I was also surprised that they didn't mention any non-family relationships that occurred prior to that start of the show. At her age, I find it strange that Big was the first love of Carrie's life. Surely the ladies had some memorable relationships prior to the beginning of the series that could have been brought up.

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You know, ross and Carrie got more annoying as their series progressed. Ross in the first couple seasons was a lovable nerd. Then he just became a caricature, as did the rest of the characters, but his worst of all.

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OP is back! I'm halfway through season 6; just started the episode where Carrie met Petrovsky. OK, I know this show and fiction and all, but I DO NOT buy him asking her out at all. Like, I'll buy Charlotte giving up her worldly possessions to become a Peace Corps volunteer in North Korea faster.

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Anonymous wrote:Most episodes of Seinfeld do not hold up.

How does it feel to be so completely dead-wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:I liked Miranda's kitchen backsplash. Went as far to find it retail and was successful.

I liked Charlotte, who I could relate to the most. I thought CB was a whiney, self-centered, bitchy friend.

Remember when she couldn't afford to keep her place and was mad that no one offered to lend her money, as she was tallying up how much cash she wasted on shoes? "wah, I will literally be the old woman who lived in her shoe!" that's when I hated her the most.

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But every show with women always has 4 women and they all have the same four personalities.

Agree. SATC is just another version of Living Single with white woman and better clothes.

Carrie = Khadijah. Journalists looking for love.
Miranda = Max. Lawyers caught up in being career women, who have one night stands that turn into the loves of their lives.
Charlotte = Synclaire. Sweet and innocent.
Samantha = Regine. Always chasing a man.

I wouldn't say Samantha is chasing men; quite the opposite.

No, Max = Samantha
Neither were looking for love, they just wanted someone to scratch their itch.

Miranda = Khadijah
Tough, ambitious

Carrie = Regine
Silly and thirsty and self-involved

Which guy on SATC is Obie?

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Anonymous wrote:I liked Miranda's kitchen backsplash. Went as far to find it retail and was successful.

I liked Charlotte, who I could relate to the most. I thought CB was a whiney, self-centered, bitchy friend.

Remember when she couldn't afford to keep her place and was mad that no one offered to lend her money, as she was tallying up how much cash she wasted on shoes? "wah, I will literally be the old woman who lived in her shoe!" that's when I hated her the most.

And then Charlotte gave the whiny gal her wedding ring as a "loan" (after Carrie had a hissy fit) so Carrie could continue living in that dump! It's like, the producers really do bend over backwards for her. Good luck ever seeing that money again, Char.

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Anonymous wrote:Most episodes of Seinfeld do not hold up.

How does it feel to be so completely dead-wrong?

I know it's blasphemous to say it, but I agree with the first poster. Reminds me of Three's Company

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Which guy on SATC is Obie?

There is only one Ovie, only one Kyle and only one Scooter.

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Anonymous wrote:Most episodes of Seinfeld do not hold up.

How does it feel to be so completely dead-wrong?

I know it's blasphemous to say it, but I agree with the first poster. Reminds me of Three's Company

PP here. I do notice that so many of the scrapes they got themselves into would've easily been avoidable today simply due to technology and social media. The person behind the "Modern Seinfeld" account on Twitter imagined what plot lines could be like today.

Modern Seinfeld ?@SeinfeldToday 3 Jun 2014
Jerry gets paranoid about his girlfriend’s past when her iPhone automatically connects to the wi-fi at Newman’s apartment.

Modern Seinfeld ?@SeinfeldToday 27 Aug 2015
After her fuck buddy texts her that she should come over to "watch Netflix," Elaine is pissed when he actually just wants to watch Netflix.

Modern Seinfeld ?@SeinfeldToday 27 Feb 2015
George goes to war with an evil barista who writes embarrassing things on George's cup instead of his name.

Modern Seinfeld ?@SeinfeldToday 7 Jan 2015
George rejects a Tinder girl when all her photos feature multiple girls. E:”What if she’s the pretty one?” G:“How naive can you be, Elaine?"

Modern Seinfeld ?@SeinfeldToday 7 Oct 2014
George is pissed when he shows his GF a funny pic on his phone & she begins swiping through his photos. G:"She swiped!" J:"You can't swipe!"

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Anonymous wrote:I think that there were annoying things about the show and the characters.

But if you can get past the fashion nonsense and some of the over-the-top indulgent lifestyle things, I do think that some of the observations about dating, sex, and relationships were a pretty good reflection of the times.

My biggest disappointment is that it ended in a Jane Austen way -- that success was basically all four women being partnered up, two with children.

I would have been more satisfied with a more open-ended kind of resolution -- that being single isn't so horrible, that it's okay to not find a forever mate or to not even *want* to find a forever mate. Not all four, but at least one of the four should have ended the season single and okay with that (maybe even relieved).

For all of its failings, what made the show interesting (at the time) was it did really explore some sex and dating topics that weren't really explored on television. But then it ended with the traditional BS.

I hated Allie McBeal, by the way. I think that character and that show was way worse than Sex in the City.

I liked both, back in the day, but I was in my super-early 20s when they were airing, and now, looking back with maturity, these women should have been a hell of a lot more mature for their ages.

The odd episodes of SATC that I still catch often crack me up though, they were the first show (that I ever saw at least) that featured a lot of honest sex/dating talk - hello, the BJ tug-of-war! They did break ground, I think. I have seen both movies, found the first depressing, the second, hilarious. I think the movies covered quite a bit of ground in terms of NOT wrapping it all up in a "couple hood/family is the only path" way that was truer to real life. I'm not sure how I'd feel seeing an episode of Ally McBeal today, it seems to be less syndicated.

Totally agree with the bolded. For women who were all at least 30 at the start, they would have already encountered most of the dilemmas they seem to be always discussing. This article that just came out about rewatching the first season agrees:
http://previously.tv/sex-and-the-city/season-1-of-sex-and-the-city-makes-all-sorts-of-whoopee/

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All her acting was putting her hand on her heart while making declarations. So annoying and predictable. That is the only affectation she has.

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But every show with women always has 4 women and they all have the same four personalities.

Agree. SATC is just another version of Living Single with white woman and better clothes.

Carrie = Khadijah. Journalists looking for love.
Miranda = Max. Lawyers caught up in being career women, who have one night stands that turn into the loves of their lives.
Charlotte = Synclaire. Sweet and innocent.
Samantha = Regine. Always chasing a man.

It works for the Golden Girls, too:
Samantha: Blanche
Charlotte: Rose
Miranda: Sophia
Carrie: Dorothy

When I realized this, I figured out I'd been watching Sex and the City since I was about 6.

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And I agree with the pp who said your age when you started watching probably affected how you viewed the show. I was 18 when I first saw an episode and they seemed sex-crazed, but so worldly. Now I cannot believe that adults wrote that show and not teenagers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But every show with women always has 4 women and they all have the same four personalities.

Agree. SATC is just another version of Living Single with white woman and better clothes.

Carrie = Khadijah. Journalists looking for love.
Miranda = Max. Lawyers caught up in being career women, who have one night stands that turn into the loves of their lives.
Charlotte = Synclaire. Sweet and innocent.
Samantha = Regine. Always chasing a man.

It works for the Golden Girls, too:
Samantha: Blanche
Charlotte: Rose
Miranda: Sophia
Carrie: Dorothy

When I realized this, I figured out I'd been watching Sex and the City since I was about 6.

It's like sisterhood of the traveling pants. Ha ha.