Wash Post article on Montgomery County salaries

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with you PP. Most jobs don't give you nearly that much vacation and many teacher tutor or can do other things during that time. I think the 10 months calculation is really fair.

No job I've ever had in the summer comes close to my salary during the school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with you PP. Most jobs don't give you nearly that much vacation and many teacher tutor or can do other things during that time. I think the 10 months calculation is really fair.

No job I've ever had in the summer comes close to my salary during the school year.

No job I've ever had gave me two weeks off at year end and another week off mid spring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with you PP. Most jobs don't give you nearly that much vacation and many teacher tutor or can do other things during that time. I think the 10 months calculation is really fair.

No job I've ever had in the summer comes close to my salary during the school year.

Doesn't matter. Break down your hourly pay...it's generous. It's more than public interest lawyers, nurses, social workers, etc.

Google starting salaries for legal aid. Heck, my cousin's starting salary as an engineer is the same as mcps starting salaries...and her salary is for 12 months!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with you PP. Most jobs don't give you nearly that much vacation and many teacher tutor or can do other things during that time. I think the 10 months calculation is really fair.

No job I've ever had in the summer comes close to my salary during the school year.

No job I've ever had gave me two weeks off at year end and another week off mid spring.

It's unpaid. Do you get paid when you use vacation time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with you PP. Most jobs don't give you nearly that much vacation and many teacher tutor or can do other things during that time. I think the 10 months calculation is really fair.

No job I've ever had in the summer comes close to my salary during the school year.

Doesn't matter. Break down your hourly pay...it's generous. It's more than public interest lawyers, nurses, social workers, etc.

Google starting salaries for legal aid. Heck, my cousin's starting salary as an engineer is the same as mcps starting salaries...and her salary is for 12 months!

But I'm sure it goes up and away from there. I top out at appr. $85K with a Master's and 20 yrs of experience. Apples to oranges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with you PP. Most jobs don't give you nearly that much vacation and many teacher tutor or can do other things during that time. I think the 10 months calculation is really fair.

No job I've ever had in the summer comes close to my salary during the school year.

Doesn't matter. Break down your hourly pay...it's generous. It's more than public interest lawyers, nurses, social workers, etc.

Google starting salaries for legal aid. Heck, my cousin's starting salary as an engineer is the same as mcps starting salaries...and her salary is for 12 months!

But I'm sure it goes up and away from there. I top out at appr. $85K with a Master's and 20 yrs of experience. Apples to oranges.

Ha ha. Not so much. Legal aid funding is constantly being cut. A 3% raise would be huge. And as I said, they work 12 months a year. No winter or spring break. It isn't unusual for legal aid lawyers to moonlight. I know a few who consult on the side, and two who bartend.

[Anonymous]

I would have no problem paying teachers if they started working year round. With 3-4 weeks of leave like most occupations get.

[Anonymous]

Who keeps comparing teachers to legal aid lawyers? That's a ridiculous comparison. I used to be a legal aid lawyer. The people who do it know they are being paid a small fraction of what they are worth (especially in DC where they are not unionized, unlike New York and Boston). Its basically like volunteer work with a stipend. Most people can't do it long term unless they have a trust fund or marry big law.
This should not be the standard for teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who keeps comparing teachers to legal aid lawyers? That's a ridiculous comparison. I used to be a legal aid lawyer. The people who do it know they are being paid a small fraction of what they are worth (especially in DC where they are not unionized, unlike New York and Boston). Its basically like volunteer work with a stipend. Most people can't do it long term unless they have a trust fund or marry big law.
This should not be the standard for teachers.

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But it should be the standard for people with costly advanced degrees who advocate for the most vulnerable people (homeless families, unaccompanied homeless youth, veterans, etc) year round?!?!

This is probably why some people think teachers lack self-awareness.

[Anonymous]

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Teachers with skills - not just teaching to tests nonstop.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6749032

Oh, yes, and Common Core? Well, since teachers are highly educated professionals there is no need for tight central government control of what or how teachers teach in Finland. Teaching and learning are highly individualized in schools and customized to the needs of children and communities. Teaching is such a popular profession in Finland that only the lucky ones are selected to teach. 90 percent of teachers and happy with their work and most of them continue teaching until the end of their working life. Sounds too good to be true? Propaganda, perhaps? Welcome and take a look.
Good further readings about Finland:
- Sahlberg, P. (2015). Finnish Lessons 2.0. What can the world learn from educational change in Finland. New York, NY: Teachers College Press.

Montgomery County public schools are crap and 1/3 of the people there send their kids to private. But by all means put in tons more money for more of the same.

There aren't enough private & parochial schools to take 1/3 of the County students

[Anonymous]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/elainawahl/teachers-who-are-so-so-tired?utm_term=.nqpVbQqpo&sub=4150788_7964543#.jrkJ9lobX

Buzzfeed gets it!

[Anonymous]

You get what you pay for....in long island where they pay teachers top dollar, you have hundreds of applicants vying for slots. This is true in most any profession....if you want the best and brightest then you must compensate them better than others (or offer other unbeatable benefits )

[Anonymous]

As a school employee looking to move to the area, I was most interested in Montgomery County Public Schools because the pay and the benefits were better than any neighboring district. Money talks

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with you PP. Most jobs don't give you nearly that much vacation and many teacher tutor or can do other things during that time. I think the 10 months calculation is really fair.

No job I've ever had in the summer comes close to my salary during the school year.

No job I've ever had gave me two weeks off at year end and another week off mid spring.

It's unpaid. Do you get paid when you use vacation time?

Sachets can choose to get their checks spread out all year or just when they work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with you PP. Most jobs don't give you nearly that much vacation and many teacher tutor or can do other things during that time. I think the 10 months calculation is really fair.

No job I've ever had in the summer comes close to my salary during the school year.

No job I've ever had gave me two weeks off at year end and another week off mid spring.

It's unpaid. Do you get paid when you use vacation time?

Sachets can choose to get their checks spread out all year or just when they work.

Sachets? If you're talking about teachers then that's not true, at least in MCPS.