Freedom Hill Elementary in Vienna

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Anonymous wrote:How did the meetings go this week at the two schools? Any talk of fixing the split feeder middle schools or was it just about the boundaries at the two elementaries?

It was just a talk about the two elementaries.

Will kids be moving in both directions, or is it just Freedom Hill students moving to Vienna?

This is the crux of the situation. The admin is for FH kids moving over to VE because they are "in town" and don't want split feeders, BUT they will not follow that line of thinking regarding the group of kids that attend Vienna and go to Kilmer/Marshall that DO NOT live within town limits.

Their needs to at least be an exchange of the kids, otherwise THERE IS NO SPACE.

There is already a liberal policy allowing in town families to enroll their kids into Vienna if they desire to. Why push to make it official? Two years ago the board said they would not be making boundary changes, and now they've gone back on that statement.

MORE FCPS WASTE OF MONEY.

It seems like it would be a wash in terms of enrollment if the Madison kids at FH moved to Vienna and the Marshall kids at Vienna move to FH. I sense that the Town people were the ones behind this, and maybe FCPS doesn't want to take the Marshall families out of Vienna if they prefer it over FH, but where are the grown-ups? Either align the feeders or do nothing, but just moving one group of kids sounds like a dumb idea.

This exactly. It would be more of an even exchange and the enrollment wouldn't change too much, but just moving one group of students in using the split feeders as the excuse and not doing anything about the other group is idiotic.

Leave it to FCPS to make this a half ass change that will create more problems instead of solving any.

It would presumably be better for the Town students now at FH who would prefer to get to know more of their future Thoreau/Madison classmates sooner at Vienna. So I wouldn't say there's no benefit, just that without a reassignment to FH you may overcrowd Vienna and you do nothing for those now at Vienna who might prefer to get to know some of their future Kilmer/Marshall classmates sooner at FH.

This could be really easy, but sometimes FCPS makes the easy stuff hard, which makes tackling the harder stuff almost impossible.

Didn't say there is no benefit, but yes they are using the split feeder as the reason for the change, yet don't want to do anything about the other children there that will remain split feeders. It's hypocritical.

It should be easy, but they don't want to finish the job. As far as they are considered, pretty much every school is overcrowded so it's no big deal to create overcrowding at Vienna too. They don't want to solve problems, just create new ones because it's easier that way.

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They don't want to upset the Vienna/Kilmer/Marshall families by having their property values go down. The bigger issue is going to be when all the children's classrooms are large and there is no room to add trailers, which the town doesn't want, or add additional classrooms. The town owns the two fields next to Vienna Elementary and FCPS has no room to expand the school. Plus, with all the new homes, the population is just going to explode at the school. No one is going to do anything until it becomes a problem.

It's hard to see how moving to Freedom Hill from Vienna when the MS and HS assignments remain the same would hurt the property values. They should just do it to balance the enrollments. Then, if Vienna still ends up crowded later, it's the Town's problem.

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Compare for yourself by looking at http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll14-15.html then select to two schools:

In summary Vienna ES is right at capacity +/- 5-6 students for the next 5 years; Freedom Hill ES will be become ~60-65 over capacity over the next 5 years. Also because Freedom Hill has 2 Early Childhood and 2 Intellectual Disability classrooms, those classrooms have a number limitation and cannot be counted as full classrooms.

Cunningham Park interestingly is under capacity and will remain so over the next 5 years...maybe that is a better location to move kids from either of these two areas?

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Anonymous wrote:Compare for yourself by looking at http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll14-15.html then select to two schools:

In summary Vienna ES is right at capacity +/- 5-6 students for the next 5 years; Freedom Hill ES will be become ~60-65 over capacity over the next 5 years. Also because Freedom Hill has 2 Early Childhood and 2 Intellectual Disability classrooms, those classrooms have a number limitation and cannot be counted as full classrooms.

Cunningham Park interestingly is under capacity and will remain so over the next 5 years...maybe that is a better location to move kids from either of these two areas?

HA that would scare off the PPs- they are just trying to move to Madison (you know, if you move all Vienna- not only town of Vienna- houses from Freedom Hill- they are happy. I do think the Cunningham Park might help since Freedom Hill is forecaster to overcapacity.

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Scared them right away from the thread from the looks of it...?

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Anonymous wrote:Scared them right away from the thread from the looks of it...?

The 1:24 post is gibberish, so why respond?

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Because talsowano wat eathypoo dongna.

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Speaking of Freedom Hill - I heard they are cutting their preschool classes for SN kids. Any other changes?

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Anonymous wrote:Compare for yourself by looking at http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll14-15.html then select to two schools:

In summary Vienna ES is right at capacity +/- 5-6 students for the next 5 years; Freedom Hill ES will be become ~60-65 over capacity over the next 5 years. Also because Freedom Hill has 2 Early Childhood and 2 Intellectual Disability classrooms, those classrooms have a number limitation and cannot be counted as full classrooms.

Cunningham Park interestingly is under capacity and will remain so over the next 5 years...maybe that is a better location to move kids from either of these two areas?

Not a bad idea. Moving the Marshall kids at Vienna to Cunningham Park would boost the school's scores, which get pulled down by some of the Madison-zoned students in SE Town of Vienna. Is that what you're proposing? It would also make CP a more balanced Madison-Marshall feeder.

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Yes, and...

Moving both Vienna-Kilmer-Marshall and Freedom Hill-Thoreau-Madison to be Cunningham Park-Thoreau-Madison/Marshall leaving the HS boundaries alone unless something changes with the completion of Thoreau's expansion.

Still this piece-mealing this is just plan dumb and the comprehensive boundary study to fix all the split feeders under Thoreau and Kilmer with minor HS adjust would be the most useful course of action.

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This school is mediocre at best by Fairfax county schools. I had to pull my twins out in second grade to send them to private. They attended K and 1st here and when you have twins you can see the disparity of teachers. My one daughter didn't learn anything while the other one did very well there. One had good teachers and one had bad two years in a row.

The one that was not learning has excelled in private. Honor Roll every quarter since third grade when she was first eligible. She is in Algebra as a 7th Grader and will do Geometry in 8th Grade. She gets about one B a year. Private school saved her.

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OH MY GOD...saved from Fairfax County Public Schools. Try going to public school in DC, then cry me a river.

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Anonymous wrote:Compare for yourself by looking at http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll14-15.html then select to two schools:

In summary Vienna ES is right at capacity +/- 5-6 students for the next 5 years; Freedom Hill ES will be become ~60-65 over capacity over the next 5 years. Also because Freedom Hill has 2 Early Childhood and 2 Intellectual Disability classrooms, those classrooms have a number limitation and cannot be counted as full classrooms.

Cunningham Park interestingly is under capacity and will remain so over the next 5 years...maybe that is a better location to move kids from either of these two areas?

HA that would scare off the PPs- they are just trying to move to Madison (you know, if you move all Vienna- not only town of Vienna- houses from Freedom Hill- they are happy. I do think the Cunningham Park might help since Freedom Hill is forecaster to overcapacity.

As an non-Town of Vienna resident whose school is Vienna Elementary, I would be THRILLED to be re-districted to Cunningham Park. That would be a better fit for us. I hope they consider that in the near future.

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Anonymous wrote:Compare for yourself by looking at http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll14-15.html then select to two schools:

In summary Vienna ES is right at capacity +/- 5-6 students for the next 5 years; Freedom Hill ES will be become ~60-65 over capacity over the next 5 years. Also because Freedom Hill has 2 Early Childhood and 2 Intellectual Disability classrooms, those classrooms have a number limitation and cannot be counted as full classrooms.

Cunningham Park interestingly is under capacity and will remain so over the next 5 years...maybe that is a better location to move kids from either of these two areas?

HA that would scare off the PPs- they are just trying to move to Madison (you know, if you move all Vienna- not only town of Vienna- houses from Freedom Hill- they are happy. I do think the Cunningham Park might help since Freedom Hill is forecaster to overcapacity.

As an non-Town of Vienna resident whose school is Vienna Elementary, I would be THRILLED to be re-districted to Cunningham Park. That would be a better fit for us. I hope they consider that in the near future.

Why is that? I thought Vienna had a better reputation than Cunningham Park..?

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Any updates as to what happened with the vote?

I looked on BoardDocs but couldn't find the info.

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Anonymous wrote:Compare for yourself by looking at http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll14-15.html then select to two schools:

In summary Vienna ES is right at capacity +/- 5-6 students for the next 5 years; Freedom Hill ES will be become ~60-65 over capacity over the next 5 years. Also because Freedom Hill has 2 Early Childhood and 2 Intellectual Disability classrooms, those classrooms have a number limitation and cannot be counted as full classrooms.

Cunningham Park interestingly is under capacity and will remain so over the next 5 years...maybe that is a better location to move kids from either of these two areas?

HA that would scare off the PPs- they are just trying to move to Madison (you know, if you move all Vienna- not only town of Vienna- houses from Freedom Hill- they are happy. I do think the Cunningham Park might help since Freedom Hill is forecaster to overcapacity.

As an non-Town of Vienna resident whose school is Vienna Elementary, I would be THRILLED to be re-districted to Cunningham Park. That would be a better fit for us. I hope they consider that in the near future.

Why is that? I thought Vienna had a better reputation than Cunningham Park..?

Not sure about this poster, but two people have said Vienna Elementary has changed and become a little too wealthy for them.