Why do you walk your dog off leash?
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Anonymous
You are conflating a whole bunch of things. Drivers who hit jaywalkers ON PURPOSE are not OK in the eyes of the law. You can't "defend yourself" against every misdemeanor you stumble on. |
Anonymous
No kidding. I thought people were supposed to be somewhat intelligent here? A little common sense goes a looooooooong way! |
Anonymous
I'm having trouble imagining a scenario where a driver hits a pedestrian on purpose, for the reason of defending themselves. Maybe because they were swerving away from something? But a person pepper spraying a dog for the purpose of defending themselves, is actually a recommended course of action from law enforcement and animal control. And it is entirely a recommended course of action for a perceived potential threat - not only *after* being attacked. |
Anonymous
The point - sorry, I guess you were too slow to get it - is that a dog merely being off leash does not give you the right to "defend yourself" against it by pepper spraying or kicking the dog. The dog has to DO something other than just be off leash for you to turn violent. Just the same as you cannot simply hit a jaywalker with your car, just because the person is a jaywalker. |
Anonymous
+1 spray first, discuss later. |
Anonymous
Yep. I don't know crazy, I-do-what-I-want, ignorant PP's jurisdiction, but in my jurisdiction, you can pepper spray a dog "running at large," i.e., any dog off-leash in a public area not specifically designated for dogs. |
Anonymous
Right - I'm not running around pepper spraying dogs. But if it comes up to me (as opposed to me going up to them), that is a perceived safety concern. Dogs are animals. They bite. They lunge. I am not responsible for them - their owner is. I am not responsible for predicting their behavior. I am not responsible for giving animals the benefit of the doubt. I am only responsible for predicting myself. |
Anonymous
| A reminder to DC residents. DC has a leash law. Your dog must be leashed. Further more, the leash length limit is four feet. So, these long leash "reels" are unlawful. |
Anonymous
Please quote the code that says this. Because my locality's code says only that you can't do anything to a properly restrained dog under its owner's immediate control. Any dog either not restrained or not under immediate control is not protected. |
Anonymous
+1 What, do you think PP is going to run after an unleashed dog and spray it? If an illegally unleashed dog approaches you, that is legal reason enough to defend yourself. It is not the job of the human being who is legally in the right to be in the public space to judge whether an unleashed dog that approaches them may be a threat or not. They have every right to defend themselves without having to be attacked first. |
Anonymous
Yes, that's what all the morons on this thread have been threatening to do. They've all said that any dog who approaches them - not bites, not even growls, but just approaches them - is going to get kicked and pepper sprayed. One total psycho said she harbored fantasies about dogs coming near her so that she COULD kick and pepper spray them. So yes, that's who I am talking to. The insane lunatics who are looking for a reason to get violent. In the name of safety and law and order. |
Anonymous
Why is a strange, unrestrained dog coming up to someone, somehow less dangerous than another strange, unrestrained animal coming up to someone? Be it a dog or a raccoon, I won't go running around chasing them and pepper spraying them. But if I'm out for a jog and a dog, raccoon, or other strange animal comes up up to me, I will pepper spray it. Because I deserve to jog in peace without concern of being chased by animals, or wait until they jump/bite. I know the law, and I know I have the law on my side. |
Anonymous
| Is it true that dogs are allowed to run unleashed in state parks? We walk at a state park near our house frequently and all the dogs we see are leashed. (In VA). |
Anonymous
Nope. The park employee is an idiot. Pets in Virginia State Parks: Pets are allowed in all Virginia State Parks. State regulations prohibit pets on public swim beaches and in public facilities (bathhouses, visitor centers, park offices, restaurants, etc.), and pets must be confined or kept on a leash no longer than six feet and kept under supervision while in the park. While pets are allowed at False Cape State Park, they generally are not permitted access through Back Bay National Wildlife Refuge, so be sure to call False Cape SP, (757) 426-7128, to verify access. To avoid potential inconvenience, we ask that you bring proof of current rabies vaccination. This is strongly recommended in Virginia Beach where a rabies alert is in effect. There is an additional nightly charge per pet for cabins (PDF) stays. Unfortunately, some pets and their owners don't always consider other guests. Pet owners must clean up after their pets. If a pet is left unattended, becomes a nuisance in violation of the leash law, disturbs others by barking during quiet hours or damages a park facility, the owner's stay may be terminated without refund. The owner will be billed for any damage to park facilities caused by pets. http://www.dcr.virginia.gov/state-parks/pets.shtml |
Anonymous
You don't remember the lady that ran her H over in the parking lot after he told her she was useless and ugly. |