Why is there so much racism against Asians?

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Anonymous wrote:Look up "entrance exam hell." It is a well known phenomenon in Japan, Korea and China. And admission to the the IIT's in India is also very competitive and based on entrance exams. So prepping is a way of life for folks from these countries, and the recent immigrants from these countries [which as one poster said above has "skyrocketed" in recent years] have brought their culture here with them. I believe this fact has largely changed the face of public education in Northern Virginia, especially in AAP and TJ. So why is pointing this out is "racist"?

Let's assume it's not racist, but just nativist - "those newcomers have changed our way of life and I wish they'd never imported their kimchi-eating, test prepping ways to my country."

Where does that get you? In your fantasy world, our schools presumably would less diverse and less competitive, and there would be more time for "kids to be kids." But at some point the music stops and they'd still have to compete with others in a global economy that the U.S. no longer controls like it did in the immediate post-WW II decades.

A competing view, which you might want to consider, is that the sooner the children of the privileged, largely white generations realize that it's a new ball game, the better things will be for them later - and that kids in this area gain an advantage over kids in other parts of the country because they see how hard some of their peers are prepared to work.

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Anonymous wrote:Look up "entrance exam hell." It is a well known phenomenon in Japan, Korea and China. And admission to the the IIT's in India is also very competitive and based on entrance exams. So prepping is a way of life for folks from these countries, and the recent immigrants from these countries [which as one poster said above has "skyrocketed" in recent years] have brought their culture here with them. I believe this fact has largely changed the face of public education in Northern Virginia, especially in AAP and TJ. So why is pointing this out is "racist"?

Let's assume it's not racist, but just nativist - "those newcomers have changed our way of life and I wish they'd never imported their kimchi-eating, test prepping ways to my country."
Where does that get you? In your fantasy world, our schools presumably would less diverse and less competitive, and there would be more time for "kids to be kids." But at some point the music stops and they'd still have to compete with others in a global economy that the U.S. no longer controls like it did in the immediate post-WW II decades.

A competing view, which you might want to consider, is that the sooner the children of the privileged, largely white generations realize that it's a new ball game, the better things will be for them later - and that kids in this area gain an advantage over kids in other parts of the country because they see how hard some of their peers are prepared to work.

you're just making that crap up - overly sensitive and inventing insults. I just said it has changed the face of education in Northern Virginia - a fact with which you seem to agree. Some people just seem to want to argue (and find "racism" everywhere).

As far as "gain[ing] an advantage" There you go! That's what it's about - getting an edge. Beating out the "priviledged largely white generations." It's a f**king war out there isn't it?

[Anonymous]

Are we talking about Asians, or Asian-Americans?

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Yes, it's a very tough world out there. People who went hungry just a generation or two ago, as well as Greeks and Spaniards today, know that already. We're finding out a bit more slowly.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a long history of anti-Asian American sentiment in this country. For the most extreme examples, see the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII and ban/quota on immigration from Asian countries, which ended only in the 1960s. On the less extreme (but still harmful) side, Asian Americans have long been seen by many as exotic and sometimes sinister foreigners, even when we are born and raised in this country. When I was growing up in the midwest, there were far fewer Asian families so I don't think it was threatening to people that my brother and I did very well in school. A generation later and in areas like metro DC, the Asian American population has skyrocketed, so now all those stereotypes and hatred are coming out in full force and apparently people are not afraid to express their feels of hate and distrust, at least on an anonymous forum such as this. It's amazing to me that so many have responded to the original post by saying essentially "I don't have a problem with Asians, i have a problem with cheaters" - when part of the problem is that these people are just assuming that someone who looks Asian must be a cheater. And then if someone speaks up about this, it's "oh, you're stifling free expression." Interestingly, Jews faced a similar phenomenon back in the day, which led to Jewish quotas at many top universities and wide belief that they were cheaters and not really Americans...now Asian Americans are the target of similar policies and views. I would be very surprised if the moderators on this forum would allow the sort of vitriol against another group to go on and on like they do the vitriol against Asian Americans that is constantly popping up on here.

Maybe there is a very good reason for that.

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Anonymous wrote:DH and I are children of Asian immigrants. We worked hard in school and attended ivy league schools. I think the difference is that back in the 80's, we were both token Asians in our schools. Reading all the negativity on the TJ threads saddens me.

I wonder which qualified applicant your token acceptance pushed aside. Many people work hard -- you do not get a free pass because of that. Americans are sadden by your racism after haven been so accepting of you.

Uh, Asian Americans don't get affirmative action; in fact, it's sort of the opposite. So they didn't 'take' anyone's spot.

You are so ignorant it is painful. Yes, they do get affirmative action.

Asians DO NOT get affirmative action. Please tell us what school, university you think gives Asians affirmative action.

I wish I could. Then I would lose my job. No thanks.

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I don't argue that Asians aren't winning the schooling rat-race...but I do question at what cost. My child has some very stressed out classmates, and this is only elementary school. When I congratulated a child on a third place science fair win, her reply was "but I didn't win...I failed. My mom says that anything that isn't the best is a failure."
This child may grow up to be something impressive, but she will never be proud of herself.

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Anonymous wrote:But immigrants don't really assimilate until three or more generations, no?

Not true if they want to assimilate. An Asian mom once told me to get test prep and outside testing down from a specific provider to get 1 of my kids into GT. Anyone ever been to an elementary school science fair where projects look like they were done by college students or professional engineers? Grading based on end product?

I have seen this and of course it is impossible for a kid that age to produce work like that without help. Had one elementary school AAP teacher tell me half the papers her class turned in read like dissertations. So this teacher stopped assigning out of class writing projects, and the quality of the work changed dramatically..

I posted about the science fair projects. It's sad that we have to pay for TJ when most of the students do not need courses beyond the levels available at the base school.

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Anonymous wrote:But immigrants don't really assimilate until three or more generations, no?

Not true if they want to assimilate. An Asian mom once told me to get test prep and outside testing down from a specific provider to get 1 of my kids into GT. Anyone ever been to an elementary school science fair where projects look like they were done by college students or professional engineers? Grading based on end product?

I have seen this and of course it is impossible for a kid that age to produce work like that without help. Had one elementary school AAP teacher tell me half the papers her class turned in read like dissertations. So this teacher stopped assigning out of class writing projects, and the quality of the work changed dramatically..

I posted about the science fair projects. It's sad that we have to pay for TJ when most of the students do not need courses beyond the levels available at the base school.

But the reason the elementary school science fair projects look like they were done by college students or professional engineers is that they probably were.

[Anonymous]

Interestingly, I had one Korean mom tell me how happy she is to be here because it's not so high pressure for her child. She said she hated growing up in Korea with all of the pressure. Her child is nonetheless a high achiever, but I have no idea if she was prepped or whatever (and it's none of my business). I just thought I'd throw in there that not all of the parents want to continue the culture of pressure.

I'm not sure that being good at taking tests = success in life, by the way. I guess it can get you into the best schools, but there is so much more that goes into making successful adults.

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I have seen this and of course it is impossible for a kid that age to produce work like that without help. Had one elementary school AAP teacher tell me half the papers her class turned in read like dissertations. So this teacher stopped assigning out of class writing projects, and the quality of the work changed dramatically..

Smart teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:DH and I are children of Asian immigrants. We worked hard in school and attended ivy league schools. I think the difference is that back in the 80's, we were both token Asians in our schools. Reading all the negativity on the TJ threads saddens me.

I wonder which qualified applicant your token acceptance pushed aside. Many people work hard -- you do not get a free pass because of that. Americans are sadden by your racism after haven been so accepting of you.

Uh, Asian Americans don't get affirmative action; in fact, it's sort of the opposite. So they didn't 'take' anyone's spot.

You are so ignorant it is painful. Yes, they do get affirmative action.

Asians DO NOT get affirmative action. Please tell us what school, university you think gives Asians affirmative action.

I wish I could. Then I would lose my job. No thanks.

Must be in the South, a small, lesser known school in the Midwest or a historically black college.

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Maybe we will start seeing more teen suicides because of academic "failure" here in the US, too.

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AA might depend on the location. An Asian may not be considered a minority in CA, but might be in NC.

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Anonymous wrote:Asian kids hate white kids. Are parents taught us to play within our own race.

Asian parents are OK with their kids playing with White kids.
They don't like their kids playing with Black or Hispanic kids.

I'm black, my wife is Asian, my kids are mixed, they play with each other....you're an idiot....

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