Where is the fat in private schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Dedicated DEI resources. Like, several full time employees. Teachers aren't paid much, but also don't teach the entire day - seems like a few hours a day at most 2-3 per teacher (on some days, none!). They'd probably prefer to actually teach while they are stuck in school. Development offices; up to 10 people in some private schools. That's probably $2m savings right there.

Good points. Thanks for sharing. DEI is very expensive I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Dedicated DEI resources. Like, several full time employees. Teachers aren't paid much, but also don't teach the entire day - seems like a few hours a day at most 2-3 per teacher (on some days, none!). They'd probably prefer to actually teach while they are stuck in school. Development offices; up to 10 people in some private schools. That's probably $2m savings right there.

Development offices pay for themselves. That’s literally what they’re employed to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Did the private schools ask you for help with their budgets?

They are private. They can do whatever they want.

You don’t get to tell them how to manage their money.

Jesus who are you people? As high paying consumers we absolutely have input as to how schools manage their money as does the board. You are part of the problem.

No, you don’t.

Interesting. If a service is subpar lets say in an airline, people normally complain, and sometimes they receive a refund. And if enough people do that, eventually the service improves. Normal procedure in a company. So a school is a whole different animal that no one can complain about? Maybe in North Korea.

North Korea? GMAFB. You can complain all You want, but as long as there are people who are willing to shell out tens of thousands of dollars a year for the school, they're not going to cut admin or reduce tuition.

Go ahead and try to get a refund for the "subpar service." LOL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Did the private schools ask you for help with their budgets?

They are private. They can do whatever they want.

You don’t get to tell them how to manage their money.

Jesus who are you people? As high paying consumers we absolutely have input as to how schools manage their money as does the board. You are part of the problem.

No, you don’t.

Interesting. If a service is subpar lets say in an airline, people normally complain, and sometimes they receive a refund. And if enough people do that, eventually the service improves. Normal procedure in a company. So a school is a whole different animal that no one can complain about? Maybe in North Korea.

North Korea? GMAFB. You can complain all You want, but as long as there are people who are willing to shell out tens of thousands of dollars a year for the school, they're not going to cut admin or reduce tuition.

Go ahead and try to get a refund for the "subpar service." LOL.

I thought masochism was out of fashion.

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Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Did the private schools ask you for help with their budgets?

They are private. They can do whatever they want.

You don’t get to tell them how to manage their money.

Jesus who are you people? As high paying consumers we absolutely have input as to how schools manage their money as does the board. You are part of the problem.

Oh please, you're not on the board.
And consumers vote with their feet: if you think it's overpriced, go elsewhere. You don't get to decide that a product other people willingly pay for is fat that should be cut.
- DP

Exactly.

Not really. You can also have the right to complain to the service provider, and ensure the quality of the service a customer deserves. First you complain, and if there is no improvement you leave. Why this is true for your cable company but not for a school.

You don’t tell the cable company how to manage its budget.

But you can complain if they are overcharging, and you can get refunds.

Ok. So complain to the school about the tuition or withdraw your kid. They don’t clueless parents to micromanage their budget.

Normally companies embrace feedback. They don’t call you clueless or tell you to leave if you don’t agree. It’s good that you are not running a big company.

DP - Feedback to a company is "this is too expensive, " not "I think you employ too many marketing people and you should trim the fat." And if you have to crowdsource ideas for what to cut, then you have no meaningful feedback to offer.

One of the reasons this country is in such a state is the number of people who think they have some secret idea that no one has thought of. It's a bizarre form of narcissism.

The school is a business. It's interests are not wholly aligned with its customers but it has a driving interest in keeping those customers. If the school thought it was too expensiveto keep customers, it would make cuts and it is its own best source of knowledge on which cuts would be effective to meet its goals. Your views on what is "fat" are irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Did the private schools ask you for help with their budgets?

They are private. They can do whatever they want.

You don’t get to tell them how to manage their money.

Jesus who are you people? As high paying consumers we absolutely have input as to how schools manage their money as does the board. You are part of the problem.

Oh please, you're not on the board.
And consumers vote with their feet: if you think it's overpriced, go elsewhere. You don't get to decide that a product other people willingly pay for is fat that should be cut.
- DP

Exactly.

Not really. You can also have the right to complain to the service provider, and ensure the quality of the service a customer deserves. First you complain, and if there is no improvement you leave. Why this is true for your cable company but not for a school.

You don’t tell the cable company how to manage its budget.

But you can complain if they are overcharging, and you can get refunds.

Ok. So complain to the school about the tuition or withdraw your kid. They don’t clueless parents to micromanage their budget.

Normally companies embrace feedback. They don’t call you clueless or tell you to leave if you don’t agree. It’s good that you are not running a big company.

DP - Feedback to a company is "this is too expensive, " not "I think you employ too many marketing people and you should trim the fat." And if you have to crowdsource ideas for what to cut, then you have no meaningful feedback to offer.

One of the reasons this country is in such a state is the number of people who think they have some secret idea that no one has thought of. It's a bizarre form of narcissism.

The school is a business. It's interests are not wholly aligned with its customers but it has a driving interest in keeping those customers. If the school thought it was too expensiveto keep customers, it would make cuts and it is its own best source of knowledge on which cuts would be effective to meet its goals. Your views on what is "fat" are irrelevant.

Luckily you don’t run a company, otherwise you would be lecturing your customers on how they should comment on the service provided.

If you read a bit more you would understand that this is common problem in colleges in the US and in some private schools. But maybe understanding this issue could be too much for you.

[Anonymous]

The great thing is that if private schools have too much bloat or are overpriced, people can walk and they would eventually shut down. Seeing as the most expensive schools are some of the most competitive schools to get into, I think they’re doing fine on their product. You can always send your kid to a public, charter, or Catholic school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The great thing is that if private schools have too much bloat or are overpriced, people can walk and they would eventually shut down. Seeing as the most expensive schools are some of the most competitive schools to get into, I think they’re doing fine on their product. You can always send your kid to a public, charter, or Catholic school.

Also the good thing about a democracy is that you can comment when companies are not efficient or do not behave competitively. Maybe in North Korea or Cuba you are not allowed to comment on inefficiencies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The great thing is that if private schools have too much bloat or are overpriced, people can walk and they would eventually shut down. Seeing as the most expensive schools are some of the most competitive schools to get into, I think they’re doing fine on their product. You can always send your kid to a public, charter, or Catholic school.

Also the good thing about a democracy is that you can comment when companies are not efficient or do not behave competitively. Maybe in North Korea or Cuba you are not allowed to comment on inefficiencies.

Of course, but do they listen either? Airlines have gotten worse over time, people regularly complain, but at the end of the day, I’ll fly most of the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The great thing is that if private schools have too much bloat or are overpriced, people can walk and they would eventually shut down. Seeing as the most expensive schools are some of the most competitive schools to get into, I think they’re doing fine on their product. You can always send your kid to a public, charter, or Catholic school.

Also the good thing about a democracy is that you can comment when companies are not efficient or do not behave competitively. Maybe in North Korea or Cuba you are not allowed to comment on inefficiencies.

Of course, but do they listen either? Airlines have gotten worse over time, people regularly complain, but at the end of the day, I’ll fly most of the time.

In real terms an airline ticket is cheaper than in the 70s. So yes, they respond to cost conscious customers. For others, they can fly business.

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Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Did the private schools ask you for help with their budgets?

They are private. They can do whatever they want.

You don’t get to tell them how to manage their money.

Jesus who are you people? As high paying consumers we absolutely have input as to how schools manage their money as does the board. You are part of the problem.

Oh please, you're not on the board.
And consumers vote with their feet: if you think it's overpriced, go elsewhere. You don't get to decide that a product other people willingly pay for is fat that should be cut.
- DP

Exactly.

Not really. You can also have the right to complain to the service provider, and ensure the quality of the service a customer deserves. First you complain, and if there is no improvement you leave. Why this is true for your cable company but not for a school.

You don’t tell the cable company how to manage its budget.

But you can complain if they are overcharging, and you can get refunds.

Ok. So complain to the school about the tuition or withdraw your kid. They don’t clueless parents to micromanage their budget.

Normally companies embrace feedback. They don’t call you clueless or tell you to leave if you don’t agree. It’s good that you are not running a big company.

DP - Feedback to a company is "this is too expensive, " not "I think you employ too many marketing people and you should trim the fat." And if you have to crowdsource ideas for what to cut, then you have no meaningful feedback to offer.

One of the reasons this country is in such a state is the number of people who think they have some secret idea that no one has thought of. It's a bizarre form of narcissism.

The school is a business. It's interests are not wholly aligned with its customers but it has a driving interest in keeping those customers. If the school thought it was too expensiveto keep customers, it would make cuts and it is its own best source of knowledge on which cuts would be effective to meet its goals. Your views on what is "fat" are irrelevant.

Luckily you don’t run a company, otherwise you would be lecturing your customers on how they should comment on the service provided.

If you read a bit more you would understand that this is common problem in colleges in the US and in some private schools. But maybe understanding this issue could be too much for you.

LOL I worked in my family's repair shop, and we told plenty of customers they could go elsewhere if they didn't want to pay. We certainly were not taking comments on how the back of the shop was run.

Maybe you should do some reading on efficient markets and think about why the schools aren't remedying these supposed inefficiencies.

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Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Did the private schools ask you for help with their budgets?

They are private. They can do whatever they want.

You don’t get to tell them how to manage their money.

Jesus who are you people? As high paying consumers we absolutely have input as to how schools manage their money as does the board. You are part of the problem.

Oh please, you're not on the board.
And consumers vote with their feet: if you think it's overpriced, go elsewhere. You don't get to decide that a product other people willingly pay for is fat that should be cut.
- DP

Exactly.

Not really. You can also have the right to complain to the service provider, and ensure the quality of the service a customer deserves. First you complain, and if there is no improvement you leave. Why this is true for your cable company but not for a school.

You don’t tell the cable company how to manage its budget.

But you can complain if they are overcharging, and you can get refunds.

Ok. So complain to the school about the tuition or withdraw your kid. They don’t clueless parents to micromanage their budget.

Normally companies embrace feedback. They don’t call you clueless or tell you to leave if you don’t agree. It’s good that you are not running a big company.

DP - Feedback to a company is "this is too expensive, " not "I think you employ too many marketing people and you should trim the fat." And if you have to crowdsource ideas for what to cut, then you have no meaningful feedback to offer.

One of the reasons this country is in such a state is the number of people who think they have some secret idea that no one has thought of. It's a bizarre form of narcissism.

The school is a business. It's interests are not wholly aligned with its customers but it has a driving interest in keeping those customers. If the school thought it was too expensiveto keep customers, it would make cuts and it is its own best source of knowledge on which cuts would be effective to meet its goals. Your views on what is "fat" are irrelevant.

Luckily you don’t run a company, otherwise you would be lecturing your customers on how they should comment on the service provided.

If you read a bit more you would understand that this is common problem in colleges in the US and in some private schools. But maybe understanding this issue could be too much for you.

LOL I worked in my family's repair shop, and we told plenty of customers they could go elsewhere if they didn't want to pay. We certainly were not taking comments on how the back of the shop was run.

Maybe you should do some reading on efficient markets and think about why the schools aren't remedying these supposed inefficiencies.

And you can read a bit about customer service.none of repair shops i have dealt with told ma to go somewhere else. Moreover they are very open to discuss the pricing in polite terms. But I know, maybe your repair shop was not really run properly.

[Anonymous]

Not in car line or parent’s events! Private parents are so much more attractive and in shape than the public schlepps.

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Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Did the private schools ask you for help with their budgets?

They are private. They can do whatever they want.

You don’t get to tell them how to manage their money.

Jesus who are you people? As high paying consumers we absolutely have input as to how schools manage their money as does the board. You are part of the problem.

Oh please, you're not on the board.
And consumers vote with their feet: if you think it's overpriced, go elsewhere. You don't get to decide that a product other people willingly pay for is fat that should be cut.
- DP

Exactly.

Not really. You can also have the right to complain to the service provider, and ensure the quality of the service a customer deserves. First you complain, and if there is no improvement you leave. Why this is true for your cable company but not for a school.

You don’t tell the cable company how to manage its budget.

But you can complain if they are overcharging, and you can get refunds.

Ok. So complain to the school about the tuition or withdraw your kid. They don’t clueless parents to micromanage their budget.

Normally companies embrace feedback. They don’t call you clueless or tell you to leave if you don’t agree. It’s good that you are not running a big company.

DP - Feedback to a company is "this is too expensive, " not "I think you employ too many marketing people and you should trim the fat." And if you have to crowdsource ideas for what to cut, then you have no meaningful feedback to offer.

One of the reasons this country is in such a state is the number of people who think they have some secret idea that no one has thought of. It's a bizarre form of narcissism.

The school is a business. It's interests are not wholly aligned with its customers but it has a driving interest in keeping those customers. If the school thought it was too expensiveto keep customers, it would make cuts and it is its own best source of knowledge on which cuts would be effective to meet its goals. Your views on what is "fat" are irrelevant.

Luckily you don’t run a company, otherwise you would be lecturing your customers on how they should comment on the service provided.

If you read a bit more you would understand that this is common problem in colleges in the US and in some private schools. But maybe understanding this issue could be too much for you.

I run a company. And the PP has much better insights than you do. Frankly, you sound like an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:One the one hand the cost of tuition is exorbitant and the cost of building maintenance and teachers salaries is much lower.

Who is responsible for the excess costs?

My guess is that with more reasonable administrative salaries and more conservative financial aid policies the Tuition could be lowered by 20 percent.

Any other ideas about where the fat is coming from?

Did the private schools ask you for help with their budgets?

They are private. They can do whatever they want.

You don’t get to tell them how to manage their money.

Jesus who are you people? As high paying consumers we absolutely have input as to how schools manage their money as does the board. You are part of the problem.

Oh please, you're not on the board.
And consumers vote with their feet: if you think it's overpriced, go elsewhere. You don't get to decide that a product other people willingly pay for is fat that should be cut.
- DP

Exactly.

Not really. You can also have the right to complain to the service provider, and ensure the quality of the service a customer deserves. First you complain, and if there is no improvement you leave. Why this is true for your cable company but not for a school.

You don’t tell the cable company how to manage its budget.

But you can complain if they are overcharging, and you can get refunds.

Ok. So complain to the school about the tuition or withdraw your kid. They don’t clueless parents to micromanage their budget.

Normally companies embrace feedback. They don’t call you clueless or tell you to leave if you don’t agree. It’s good that you are not running a big company.

DP - Feedback to a company is "this is too expensive, " not "I think you employ too many marketing people and you should trim the fat." And if you have to crowdsource ideas for what to cut, then you have no meaningful feedback to offer.

One of the reasons this country is in such a state is the number of people who think they have some secret idea that no one has thought of. It's a bizarre form of narcissism.

The school is a business. It's interests are not wholly aligned with its customers but it has a driving interest in keeping those customers. If the school thought it was too expensiveto keep customers, it would make cuts and it is its own best source of knowledge on which cuts would be effective to meet its goals. Your views on what is "fat" are irrelevant.

Luckily you don’t run a company, otherwise you would be lecturing your customers on how they should comment on the service provided.

If you read a bit more you would understand that this is common problem in colleges in the US and in some private schools. But maybe understanding this issue could be too much for you.

I run a company. And the PP has much better insights than you do. Frankly, you sound like an idiot.

Another person without training in customer service. I am glad that these people just run mom and pop shops.