Montoya is not fit for office

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not a Montoya fan-I think she thinks she has the market on equity and everyone else is beneath her but I can't say I blame her for this comment. Voting no and doing nothing is certainly not the answer. That resolution was so watered down it did absolutely nothing except pave the way to ultimately establish a better system than the definitely inadequate one we have now. There was really no reason to vote against it being built. The control ultimately comes in the form of ensuring it is built well.

Are you saying you can't blame her for calling people racist for opposing the regional model? I'm curious where that comes from. The concerns I have heard and personally have about the regional model are not about wanting to deny access to something, more about the fact that it breaks what is available instead of building it.

I live in Damascus/Clarksburg area so I don't claim to know anything about the DCC and I don't really understand why it needed to be dismantled in order to move forward with the regional program when it seems as though the new regions will function similarly to that model. All that to say, when we have so few programs in such far away places (for some of us), it allows those with more means or flexibility to more readily access them. That is why I understood Montoya's take that voting to not take on this project that would expand access felt limiting, or, in her word, racist.

Wow you sure know everything going on Montoya’s brain.

Again. It was Julie votes no.
People cheer (Montoya has no idea why they are cheering. See the numerous PP who actually believe regional program will make disparities worse).
Montoya says: “that’s the racism” in response to the cheers.

I’m curious PP, when were you able to get inside Montoya’s mind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS folks can whine about how horrible parents are but until they understand that they have lort the trust of the community and need to gain it back, nothing will change. For years outcomes have been getting worse..what are they doing to change that? The regional model isn't it. Zimmerman's comments notwithstanding it doesn't seem that MCPS fundamentally cares what parents think or is interested in listening to them. The impression they give off is "how dare you have an opinion ,you don't know anything." I do know too many families need to pay $$$ to tutors to teach their kids to read.

You can teach your own kids, and lots of other options. We have reasonably priced online tutors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a Montoya fan-I think she thinks she has the market on equity and everyone else is beneath her but I can't say I blame her for this comment. Voting no and doing nothing is certainly not the answer. That resolution was so watered down it did absolutely nothing except pave the way to ultimately establish a better system than the definitely inadequate one we have now. There was really no reason to vote against it being built. The control ultimately comes in the form of ensuring it is built well.

Are you saying you can't blame her for calling people racist for opposing the regional model? I'm curious where that comes from. The concerns I have heard and personally have about the regional model are not about wanting to deny access to something, more about the fact that it breaks what is available instead of building it.

I live in Damascus/Clarksburg area so I don't claim to know anything about the DCC and I don't really understand why it needed to be dismantled in order to move forward with the regional program when it seems as though the new regions will function similarly to that model. All that to say, when we have so few programs in such far away places (for some of us), it allows those with more means or flexibility to more readily access them. That is why I understood Montoya's take that voting to not take on this project that would expand access felt limiting, or, in her word, racist.

It sounds like you are frustrated that you live far from certain programs and are hopeful that the new model will offer your family more access. I hope that occurs at some point (I think it will be a good long while before there are meaningful good options available)! However, it sounds like you are extrapolating what Montoya meant by "racist" based on your own perspective. She should have been more clear about what she meant. For those of us in the DCC, her (and others) suggesting that anyone with concerns about them dismantling the DCC and the NEC and replacing it with the proposed 6 regions are racist is really confusing. She conflated programs that serve predominantly White and Asian students with the DCC and NEC. None of the programs she mentioned are in the NEC. One is in the DCC but serves students primarily from Wootton and Churchill. I completely agree that making kids travel from Rockville (or further) to Blair makes no sense. It's not fair to those kids. But the DCC is not SMCS.

In all of this talk about the regional model there has not been a public discussion about what worked and what didn't work about the consortia. In fact one Councilmember had to tell MCPS flat out to be honest that they were dismantling it because they wouldn't even come out and say that. To then call people racist because folks have an issue with this decision that was apparently agreed upon by every elected official except Yang* but never explained to the families that will be impacted by the dismantling is just incredibly disingenuous and disrespectful to the community.

*not sure wtf Yang intended to achieve with that vote lol but yeah we noticed she didn't shT about anything up until the vote. absolutely telling everyone I know not to vote for her

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS folks can whine about how horrible parents are but until they understand that they have lort the trust of the community and need to gain it back, nothing will change. For years outcomes have been getting worse..what are they doing to change that? The regional model isn't it. Zimmerman's comments notwithstanding it doesn't seem that MCPS fundamentally cares what parents think or is interested in listening to them. The impression they give off is "how dare you have an opinion ,you don't know anything." I do know too many families need to pay $$$ to tutors to teach their kids to read.

You can teach your own kids, and lots of other options. We have reasonably priced online tutors.

I tried, but it wasn't working. I don't happen to be a trained educator. Thankfully, we could pay for someone who has been transformative to our kid. The money is not an issue for us. The issue is the assumption that only kids from bad families don't learn to read. GMAFB. MCPS has spent YEARS gaslighting families about reading. No wonder proficiency rates are so low. No, it's not because families are lazy, criminals, or whatever other stereotypes y'all have about the groups with low proficiency rates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS folks can whine about how horrible parents are but until they understand that they have lort the trust of the community and need to gain it back, nothing will change. For years outcomes have been getting worse..what are they doing to change that? The regional model isn't it. Zimmerman's comments notwithstanding it doesn't seem that MCPS fundamentally cares what parents think or is interested in listening to them. The impression they give off is "how dare you have an opinion ,you don't know anything." I do know too many families need to pay $$$ to tutors to teach their kids to read.

You can teach your own kids, and lots of other options. We have reasonably priced online tutors.

I tried, but it wasn't working. I don't happen to be a trained educator. Thankfully, we could pay for someone who has been transformative to our kid. The money is not an issue for us. The issue is the assumption that only kids from bad families don't learn to read. GMAFB. MCPS has spent YEARS gaslighting families about reading. No wonder proficiency rates are so low. No, it's not because families are lazy, criminals, or whatever other stereotypes y'all have about the groups with low proficiency rates.

Thank you for saying this. Former teacher here - (just left) and I firmly believe all of this WILL NOT SOLVE all these equity 'concerns' they have. Our families are struggling. STRUGGLING. There are many who can do exactly what some do - outsource education. But to expect all families can do this is not equitable. We are in a very unique county with many many immigrants who are not familiar with the American educational system. I cannot tell you how hard it was to connect with families at home for various reasons - do they want their children to succeed? Of course! But they don't know how. Shoving kids into these classrooms all together to 'learn' from each other is actually more harmful. Want to reduce behavior problems? Fix the classrooms first. Give these students back their power by educating them where they are at. These students, especially at the secondary level, need an incredible amount of support that a single teacher in a classroom cannot do on their own. MCPS needs to revitalize their teaching - stop wasting time with educational trends and someone's pretend educational doctorate dissertation project. They waste precious resources and time where we could be on the ground with actual peer-reviewed interventions to help our most vulnerable and struggling succeed. THAT IS EQUITY MCPS. Get with the program. I am so glad so many people are speaking up to see through this facade. Do things the right way for once in your short-sighted, non-equitable ways MCPS. You are failing the entire community. Do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a Montoya fan-I think she thinks she has the market on equity and everyone else is beneath her but I can't say I blame her for this comment. Voting no and doing nothing is certainly not the answer. That resolution was so watered down it did absolutely nothing except pave the way to ultimately establish a better system than the definitely inadequate one we have now. There was really no reason to vote against it being built. The control ultimately comes in the form of ensuring it is built well.

Are you saying you can't blame her for calling people racist for opposing the regional model? I'm curious where that comes from. The concerns I have heard and personally have about the regional model are not about wanting to deny access to something, more about the fact that it breaks what is available instead of building it.

I live in Damascus/Clarksburg area so I don't claim to know anything about the DCC and I don't really understand why it needed to be dismantled in order to move forward with the regional program when it seems as though the new regions will function similarly to that model. All that to say, when we have so few programs in such far away places (for some of us), it allows those with more means or flexibility to more readily access them. That is why I understood Montoya's take that voting to not take on this project that would expand access felt limiting, or, in her word, racist.

It sounds like you are frustrated that you live far from certain programs and are hopeful that the new model will offer your family more access. I hope that occurs at some point (I think it will be a good long while before there are meaningful good options available)! However, it sounds like you are extrapolating what Montoya meant by "racist" based on your own perspective. She should have been more clear about what she meant. For those of us in the DCC, her (and others) suggesting that anyone with concerns about them dismantling the DCC and the NEC and replacing it with the proposed 6 regions are racist is really confusing. She conflated programs that serve predominantly White and Asian students with the DCC and NEC. None of the programs she mentioned are in the NEC. One is in the DCC but serves students primarily from Wootton and Churchill. I completely agree that making kids travel from Rockville (or further) to Blair makes no sense. It's not fair to those kids. But the DCC is not SMCS.

In all of this talk about the regional model there has not been a public discussion about what worked and what didn't work about the consortia. In fact one Councilmember had to tell MCPS flat out to be honest that they were dismantling it because they wouldn't even come out and say that. To then call people racist because folks have an issue with this decision that was apparently agreed upon by every elected official except Yang* but never explained to the families that will be impacted by the dismantling is just incredibly disingenuous and disrespectful to the community.

*not sure wtf Yang intended to achieve with that vote lol but yeah we noticed she didn't shT about anything up until the vote. absolutely telling everyone I know not to vote for her

+1000 to everything in this post
Thank you for eloquently explaining everything! 👏

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a Montoya fan-I think she thinks she has the market on equity and everyone else is beneath her but I can't say I blame her for this comment. Voting no and doing nothing is certainly not the answer. That resolution was so watered down it did absolutely nothing except pave the way to ultimately establish a better system than the definitely inadequate one we have now. There was really no reason to vote against it being built. The control ultimately comes in the form of ensuring it is built well.

Are you saying you can't blame her for calling people racist for opposing the regional model? I'm curious where that comes from. The concerns I have heard and personally have about the regional model are not about wanting to deny access to something, more about the fact that it breaks what is available instead of building it.

I live in Damascus/Clarksburg area so I don't claim to know anything about the DCC and I don't really understand why it needed to be dismantled in order to move forward with the regional program when it seems as though the new regions will function similarly to that model. All that to say, when we have so few programs in such far away places (for some of us), it allows those with more means or flexibility to more readily access them. That is why I understood Montoya's take that voting to not take on this project that would expand access felt limiting, or, in her word, racist.

Wow you sure know everything going on Montoya’s brain.

Again. It was Julie votes no.
People cheer (Montoya has no idea why they are cheering. See the numerous PP who actually believe regional program will make disparities worse).
Montoya says: “that’s the racism” in response to the cheers.

I’m curious PP, when were you able to get inside Montoya’s mind?

Bruh, are you ok? You don't sound well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS folks can whine about how horrible parents are but until they understand that they have lort the trust of the community and need to gain it back, nothing will change. For years outcomes have been getting worse..what are they doing to change that? The regional model isn't it. Zimmerman's comments notwithstanding it doesn't seem that MCPS fundamentally cares what parents think or is interested in listening to them. The impression they give off is "how dare you have an opinion ,you don't know anything." I do know too many families need to pay $$$ to tutors to teach their kids to read.

You can teach your own kids, and lots of other options. We have reasonably priced online tutors.

I tried, but it wasn't working. I don't happen to be a trained educator. Thankfully, we could pay for someone who has been transformative to our kid. The money is not an issue for us. The issue is the assumption that only kids from bad families don't learn to read. GMAFB. MCPS has spent YEARS gaslighting families about reading. No wonder proficiency rates are so low. No, it's not because families are lazy, criminals, or whatever other stereotypes y'all have about the groups with low proficiency rates.

Thank you for saying this. Former teacher here - (just left) and I firmly believe all of this WILL NOT SOLVE all these equity 'concerns' they have. Our families are struggling. STRUGGLING. There are many who can do exactly what some do - outsource education. But to expect all families can do this is not equitable. We are in a very unique county with many many immigrants who are not familiar with the American educational system. I cannot tell you how hard it was to connect with families at home for various reasons - do they want their children to succeed? Of course! But they don't know how. Shoving kids into these classrooms all together to 'learn' from each other is actually more harmful. Want to reduce behavior problems? Fix the classrooms first. Give these students back their power by educating them where they are at. These students, especially at the secondary level, need an incredible amount of support that a single teacher in a classroom cannot do on their own. MCPS needs to revitalize their teaching - stop wasting time with educational trends and someone's pretend educational doctorate dissertation project. They waste precious resources and time where we could be on the ground with actual peer-reviewed interventions to help our most vulnerable and struggling succeed. THAT IS EQUITY MCPS. Get with the program. I am so glad so many people are speaking up to see through this facade. Do things the right way for once in your short-sighted, non-equitable ways MCPS. You are failing the entire community. Do better.

Truthfully, I don’t know a single teacher who supports the regional program.
I don’t agree with MCEA on everything but I do agree that regional program is set up to fail.

I guess, per Montoya, that makes MCEA, every teacher who opposes, and me “racist”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a Montoya fan-I think she thinks she has the market on equity and everyone else is beneath her but I can't say I blame her for this comment. Voting no and doing nothing is certainly not the answer. That resolution was so watered down it did absolutely nothing except pave the way to ultimately establish a better system than the definitely inadequate one we have now. There was really no reason to vote against it being built. The control ultimately comes in the form of ensuring it is built well.

Are you saying you can't blame her for calling people racist for opposing the regional model? I'm curious where that comes from. The concerns I have heard and personally have about the regional model are not about wanting to deny access to something, more about the fact that it breaks what is available instead of building it.

I live in Damascus/Clarksburg area so I don't claim to know anything about the DCC and I don't really understand why it needed to be dismantled in order to move forward with the regional program when it seems as though the new regions will function similarly to that model. All that to say, when we have so few programs in such far away places (for some of us), it allows those with more means or flexibility to more readily access them. That is why I understood Montoya's take that voting to not take on this project that would expand access felt limiting, or, in her word, racist.

Wow you sure know everything going on Montoya’s brain.

Again. It was Julie votes no.
People cheer (Montoya has no idea why they are cheering. See the numerous PP who actually believe regional program will make disparities worse).
Montoya says: “that’s the racism” in response to the cheers.

I’m curious PP, when were you able to get inside Montoya’s mind?

Bruh, are you ok? You don't sound well.

The only one not well here is Montoya, sis

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like the behaviors you described, but I am more concerned about the BOE being incompetent and refusing to ask tough questions of the Superintendent. Ultimately I think this stems from their low stipends and lack of independent staff. I'll happily vote for alternative candidates that aren't hateful, especially if they support more physical books and learning with pencil and paper. But honestly I don't think much will change until the BOE has more resources to provide actual oversight of the Superintendent.

+1

While I DO think Montoya can be unprofessional and her conduct unbecoming, I'm far more concerned about the BOE being an impotent, useless entity that fails at its core mission.

They’re not impotent and useless. You just don’t understand what they have to do. You’ve never been in their shoes.

Nobody understands why the boundary study and the regional model are inextricably linked because neither the Superintendent nor the BOE have provided a reasonable explanation for that claim.

They are INEXTRICABLE!!!

They can't be EXTRICATED!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a Montoya fan-I think she thinks she has the market on equity and everyone else is beneath her but I can't say I blame her for this comment. Voting no and doing nothing is certainly not the answer. That resolution was so watered down it did absolutely nothing except pave the way to ultimately establish a better system than the definitely inadequate one we have now. There was really no reason to vote against it being built. The control ultimately comes in the form of ensuring it is built well.

Are you saying you can't blame her for calling people racist for opposing the regional model? I'm curious where that comes from. The concerns I have heard and personally have about the regional model are not about wanting to deny access to something, more about the fact that it breaks what is available instead of building it.

I live in Damascus/Clarksburg area so I don't claim to know anything about the DCC and I don't really understand why it needed to be dismantled in order to move forward with the regional program when it seems as though the new regions will function similarly to that model. All that to say, when we have so few programs in such far away places (for some of us), it allows those with more means or flexibility to more readily access them. That is why I understood Montoya's take that voting to not take on this project that would expand access felt limiting, or, in her word, racist.

Here is the thing - it's easy to fall into dichotomous thinking on the programs: for/against. In fact, many of us wanted to roll out more programs, but do it in a way that ensured fidelity to curriculum and provide support of new school programs in Damascus, and elsewhere, through instructional leadership teams. Now what we will get instead are programs that will be poorly developed and I am thinking that transportation will be a huge challenge as well.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for saying this. Former teacher here - (just left) and I firmly believe all of this WILL NOT SOLVE all these equity 'concerns' they have. Our families are struggling. STRUGGLING. There are many who can do exactly what some do - outsource education. But to expect all families can do this is not equitable. We are in a very unique county with many many immigrants who are not familiar with the American educational system. I cannot tell you how hard it was to connect with families at home for various reasons - do they want their children to succeed? Of course! But they don't know how. Shoving kids into these classrooms all together to 'learn' from each other is actually more harmful. Want to reduce behavior problems? Fix the classrooms first. Give these students back their power by educating them where they are at. These students, especially at the secondary level, need an incredible amount of support that a single teacher in a classroom cannot do on their own. MCPS needs to revitalize their teaching - stop wasting time with educational trends and someone's pretend educational doctorate dissertation project. They waste precious resources and time where we could be on the ground with actual peer-reviewed interventions to help our most vulnerable and struggling succeed. THAT IS EQUITY MCPS. Get with the program. I am so glad so many people are speaking up to see through this facade. Do things the right way for once in your short-sighted, non-equitable ways MCPS. You are failing the entire community. Do better.


Truthfully, I don’t know a single teacher who supports the regional program.
I don’t agree with MCEA on everything but I do agree that regional program is set up to fail.

I guess, per Montoya, that makes MCEA, every teacher who opposes, and me “racist”.

Another former teacher here - agree with you completely.

[Anonymous]

Montoya was calling out several people from Wootton who said racist things about people who live in Gaithersburg. While Wootton at Crown will have some Hispanic kids, saying this wrecks Wootton’s academic excellence is gross and deserved to be called out. She also called out their use of the term “bussing,” which has historical significance and which is inappropriate when talking about 9 minute bus rides. While some Wootton parents have suggested that going from Fallsmead to Crown is some sort of day trip, high school buses stop less compared to lower grades which makes for shorter trips, and we’re talking about a distance that is an easy bicycle ride for most teens (3ish miles).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Montoya was calling out several people from Wootton who said racist things about people who live in Gaithersburg. While Wootton at Crown will have some Hispanic kids, saying this wrecks Wootton’s academic excellence is gross and deserved to be called out. She also called out their use of the term “bussing,” which has historical significance and which is inappropriate when talking about 9 minute bus rides. While some Wootton parents have suggested that going from Fallsmead to Crown is some sort of day trip, high school buses stop less compared to lower grades which makes for shorter trips, and we’re talking about a distance that is an easy bicycle ride for most teens (3ish miles).

Another mind reader here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Montoya was calling out several people from Wootton who said racist things about people who live in Gaithersburg. While Wootton at Crown will have some Hispanic kids, saying this wrecks Wootton’s academic excellence is gross and deserved to be called out. She also called out their use of the term “bussing,” which has historical significance and which is inappropriate when talking about 9 minute bus rides. While some Wootton parents have suggested that going from Fallsmead to Crown is some sort of day trip, high school buses stop less compared to lower grades which makes for shorter trips, and we’re talking about a distance that is an easy bicycle ride for most teens (3ish miles).

What did those people say that was racist? I’m also not familiar with how using bussing is racist either.

If you need to explain it this much - it’s not what you think it is.