Report of shooting at or near wootton

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it taking so long to dismiss the students if the suspect has already been arrested? Why is the reunification process so slow?

Because you can't be sure the suspect is really the suspect, and the sole perp. Every student needs to be vetted, and every room cleared as safe one-by-one.

That can take a long time..So are they searching for more weapons too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton has been crazy for awhile now. Over 50 staff left over the summer - new principal, half of assistant principals, the head of security, the head of special education, most of counseling, and so many teachers. There was the inadequate handling of racist events. Now this. When is central office going to give Wootton the support they obviously need?

No, they’re going to close Wootton and send their kids to Gaithersburg. Obviously Wootton is being unfairly targeted by MCPS for some DEI agenda.

Or you could say that the Wooton community is finally getting that brand new building they have wanted for so long!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it taking so long to dismiss the students if the suspect has already been arrested? Why is the reunification process so slow?

Because you can't be sure the suspect is really the suspect, and the sole perp. Every student needs to be vetted, and every room cleared as safe one-by-one.

That can take a long time..So are they searching for more weapons too?

I would assume so. There is a standard procedure for incidents like this. MCPD is very competent in my experience, so I'm sure they're doing it the right way.

Now MCPS is a different story, but once this becamse a crime scene, MCPD takes over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it taking so long to dismiss the students if the suspect has already been arrested? Why is the reunification process so slow?

Because you can't be sure the suspect is really the suspect, and the sole perp. Every student needs to be vetted, and every room cleared as safe one-by-one.

That can take a long time..So are they searching for more weapons too?

I would assume so. There is a standard procedure for incidents like this. MCPD is very competent in my experience, so I'm sure they're doing it the right way.

Now MCPS is a different story, but once this becamse a crime scene, MCPD takes over.

Yes. DC was told this by an administrator. Will get stuff back tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it taking so long to dismiss the students if the suspect has already been arrested? Why is the reunification process so slow?

Because you can't be sure the suspect is really the suspect, and the sole perp. Every student needs to be vetted, and every room cleared as safe one-by-one.

That can take a long time..So are they searching for more weapons too?

I would assume so. There is a standard procedure for incidents like this. MCPD is very competent in my experience, so I'm sure they're doing it the right way.

Now MCPS is a different story, but once this becamse a crime scene, MCPD takes over.

Who figures out the unification process? MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:And of course we don’t need resource officers or police in the schools because that is more dangerous 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Shame on Montgomery County for continuing to destroy things. Make our kids feel safe in school and stop worrying about discrimination.

Our schools do have officers. Wootton has a full time SRO.

An SRO or a CEO? They are somewhat different, and I thought MCPS got rid of the SROs about 5 years ago. The purpose of a SRO is that they were specially trained to deal with you, and embedded into the school. The idea was that they would build specific relationships within the school and so would be more likely to know if a specific kid has beef with another kid, something brewing that might turn violent, one kid that is known to be troubled or dealing or whatever. It's hard with 3000 kids and one SRO, but the idea itself is sound and has in the past been an effective violence disruptor because kids will come to the SRO and anonymously alert them to an problem.
I personally think the schools need more security officers (probably double what they currently have) and more SROs (maybe 2-4 per school for these monstrously large schools with additional training for the SROs and more opportunity for them to engage positively with the student body, e.g., guest speakers in the health and government classes).

I think the evidence is that SROs are not very effective at stopping the Uvalde type shooters (because those shooters are suicidal and assume they will get taken out), but are decently effective a taking the in-school drug dealing and regular teen violence and pushing it outside the school property. That may push it to the parking lot of a Target, or a public park or an apartment building or whatever, but at least it allows kids that want to go to school in peace to do so.

I've been skeptical of metal detectors because they don't seem practical with 3000 students coming in every morning and also because the security guards I know that work metal detectors said they are actually kind of hard to operate -- you have to be particularly skilled in figuring out what you're looking at, and I just don't think that it's realistic for MCPS to implement this -- plus people would just prop a door and sneak it in the back, and kids are in and out all day long for DE and portable classrooms, etc. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but it just doesn't seem like a real solution.

The official title is CEO. However that was just to appease people so that they could say there are no SROs in schools…. They changed the name from SRO to CEO.
They’ve always been in the schools.
Rockville City has 2 full time CEOs. One assigned to RM and one to Wootton.

CEOs cannot walk the hallways without the Principal's say so, unlike SROs.

I think the differences go beyond this. I read the various agreements many years ago. But I think it would be really helpful for parents to understand the differences between the two programs and what is done in other school jurisdictions as well. It's really opaque and I think most parents don't really understand the programs.

MCPS also has security guards. It doesn't matter what you call them but they need at least 2-3 times as many as 4-6 is not enough in these large schools and campuses. I have kids at two different high schools. Each has a police officer outside in their car during the day (or not in the car sometimes when they are handling things).

Security guards are low wage and aren’t trained a LEO. McPS is typically short on them because the pay is pretty bad. They are good for things like monitoring the bathrooms and hall passes. The fact that the police office is sitting outside is due to the switch from SROs to CEOs. SROs had offices in school and were supposed to be integrated into school community. The ceo model is better than nothing but no ideal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course we're lacking a lot of details at this point, but if you'd like to have SROs back in schools, at least make sure not to vote for those who were against it.

It was Jawando who introduced legislation to ban SROs:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/council/Resources/Files/agenda/col/2021/20210204/20210204_1.pdf

He's on the ballot this year, running for County Exec.

Echoing this post. Teachers, parents and admin all wanted to keep SROs in schools. They were an integral part of keeping kids safe at school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After Sandy Hook, I made my peace that anything will change in the country as a whole regarding school security.

I'm not at peace with it. It makes me angry.
https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668/
No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
Published:
May 25, 2022

The Onion has reused this article 22 times for mass shootings

I think you missed the PPs point, and jumped in trying to feel superior here.

[Anonymous]

Rosemont be like What exactly is we gettin into??!!

[Anonymous]

Can someone who has a student at Wootton confirm if the shooter had been wearing an ankle monitor? My child is telling me this but I don't know if this is complete hearsay.

[Anonymous]

Where is the 6 pm news conference?

[Anonymous]

It's all over local and national news... Why no text/ email from MCPS to parents to at least say that something happened at the school and they will provide details when more is known?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone who has a student at Wootton confirm if the shooter had been wearing an ankle monitor? My child is telling me this but I don't know if this is complete hearsay.

Certainly possible. Students at multiple other mcps high schools have had ankle monitors in the past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After Sandy Hook, I made my peace that anything will change in the country as a whole regarding school security.

I'm not at peace with it. It makes me angry.
https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668/
No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
Published:
May 25, 2022

The Onion has reused this article 22 times for mass shootings

I think you missed the PPs point, and jumped in trying to feel superior here.

I don’t think I missed PP’s point and I’m not ok with someone who feels at peace with a classroom full of kindergartners being shot to death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone who has a student at Wootton confirm if the shooter had been wearing an ankle monitor? My child is telling me this but I don't know if this is complete hearsay.

There are kids all over the county in our high schools wearing ankle monitors. MCPS is required to educate all kids. Where else would kids with ankle monitors go to school?