Proactive, sensible ways to organize, dissent, stay safe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t sure where to put this.

I’m one person with no power. I have both tried to keep aware of the world with quality writing and broadcasting of the PBS NewsHour type, and to otherwise engage with real books, ideas, and my real life and family; I’m sure many of us have. I can’t mainline MSNow anymore, it’s not good for me, and most of the broadcasters aren’t that great. I have chronic illness and need to actually care about my stress.

That said, the one two three hits of Maduro’s kidnapping, the Greenland fever dream moving forward, and the ICE murder of Renee Good have me despairing. I do not work as an attorney or organizer, or in public office.

What concrete steps can we do? Can we also discuss the risks of protest? I’m terrified of the surveillance state, and I don’t know how seriously to take advice I see on Reddit in re masking, burner phones, and avoiding even reading about advertised upcoming protests.

We have obligations to our children and to each other. What can we do, that is legal and yet effective, without risking our lives, let alone traumatizing those who depend upon us?

Mods: if there’s a master or pinned “what we can do” thread please of course merge.

You guys spend half your time complaining that Trump is “destroying the democracy,” and the other half trying to sabotage the efforts of the duly elected president.

Yeah, that's going to come out ...

[Anonymous]

DHS can’t handle the court dates for the people in their custody. I wish there was a way to organize to help attorneys show up and be prepared. According to some lawyers I follow, they keep winning hearings because the attorneys for the government are extremely overwhelmed, and can’t get it together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DHS can’t handle the court dates for the people in their custody. I wish there was a way to organize to help attorneys show up and be prepared. According to some lawyers I follow, they keep winning hearings because the attorneys for the government are extremely overwhelmed, and can’t get it together.

Yeah that's what happens when you fire hardworking people, threaten people who worked on cases with repercussions, and weaponize your agency against Americans >> thousands of lawyers leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DHS can’t handle the court dates for the people in their custody. I wish there was a way to organize to help attorneys show up and be prepared. According to some lawyers I follow, they keep winning hearings because the attorneys for the government are extremely overwhelmed, and can’t get it together.

Yeah that's what happens when you fire hardworking people, threaten people who worked on cases with repercussions, and weaponize your agency against Americans >> thousands of lawyers leave.

Right, and people should organize to exploit this failure.

[Anonymous]

You guys spend half your time complaining that Trump is “destroying the democracy,” and the other half trying to sabotage the efforts of the duly elected president.

Protest and dissent and assembly is not Democratic?

[Anonymous]

Good article with tips and links to resources:
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-if-ice-invades-your-neighborhood/

I like the idea to repeat out loud what they tell you to to:
“Step back”
Reply “I’m stepping back, I’m stepping back” so it’s recorded on their body cams in case of issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good article with tips and links to resources:
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-if-ice-invades-your-neighborhood/

I like the idea to repeat out loud what they tell you to to:
“Step back”
Reply “I’m stepping back, I’m stepping back” so it’s recorded on their body cams in case of issue.

what body cams?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good article with tips and links to resources:
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-if-ice-invades-your-neighborhood/

I like the idea to repeat out loud what they tell you to to:
“Step back”
Reply “I’m stepping back, I’m stepping back” so it’s recorded on their body cams in case of issue.

Not a concern if you don't confront anyone. Threading a needle because you're trying to ensure your personal immunity from the consequences of your conduct means there's a problem with your conduct. If you MYOB, you'll not have consequences to deal with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You guys spend half your time complaining that Trump is “destroying the democracy,” and the other half trying to sabotage the efforts of the duly elected president.

Protest and dissent and assembly is not Democratic?

??

do you mean democratic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article with tips and links to resources:
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-if-ice-invades-your-neighborhood/

I like the idea to repeat out loud what they tell you to to:
“Step back”
Reply “I’m stepping back, I’m stepping back” so it’s recorded on their body cams in case of issue.

Not a concern if you don't confront anyone. Threading a needle because you're trying to ensure your personal immunity from the consequences of your conduct means there's a problem with your conduct. If you MYOB, you'll not have consequences to deal with.

Either you're not an American or you've lost touch with American roots. I guess the American colonists should have just paid their tea taxes and stated home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article with tips and links to resources:
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-if-ice-invades-your-neighborhood/

I like the idea to repeat out loud what they tell you to to:
“Step back”
Reply “I’m stepping back, I’m stepping back” so it’s recorded on their body cams in case of issue.

Not a concern if you don't confront anyone. Threading a needle because you're trying to ensure your personal immunity from the consequences of your conduct means there's a problem with your conduct. If you MYOB, you'll not have consequences to deal with.

You need to read more Niemöller. When folks mind their own business, there are usually few folks remaining when the secret police come for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article with tips and links to resources:
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-if-ice-invades-your-neighborhood/

I like the idea to repeat out loud what they tell you to to:
“Step back”
Reply “I’m stepping back, I’m stepping back” so it’s recorded on their body cams in case of issue.

Not a concern if you don't confront anyone. Threading a needle because you're trying to ensure your personal immunity from the consequences of your conduct means there's a problem with your conduct. If you MYOB, you'll not have consequences to deal with.

ICE Barbie's influencers have found the chat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article with tips and links to resources:
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-if-ice-invades-your-neighborhood/

I like the idea to repeat out loud what they tell you to to:
“Step back”
Reply “I’m stepping back, I’m stepping back” so it’s recorded on their body cams in case of issue.

Not a concern if you don't confront anyone. Threading a needle because you're trying to ensure your personal immunity from the consequences of your conduct means there's a problem with your conduct. If you MYOB, you'll not have consequences to deal with.

Secret police abducting people regardless of immigration status and shooting U.S. citizens is every American’s business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article with tips and links to resources:
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-if-ice-invades-your-neighborhood/

I like the idea to repeat out loud what they tell you to to:
“Step back”
Reply “I’m stepping back, I’m stepping back” so it’s recorded on their body cams in case of issue.

what body cams?

The ice workers have body cams?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article with tips and links to resources:
https://www.wired.com/story/what-to-do-if-ice-invades-your-neighborhood/

I like the idea to repeat out loud what they tell you to to:
“Step back”
Reply “I’m stepping back, I’m stepping back” so it’s recorded on their body cams in case of issue.

Not a concern if you don't confront anyone. Threading a needle because you're trying to ensure your personal immunity from the consequences of your conduct means there's a problem with your conduct. If you MYOB, you'll not have consequences to deal with.

Incorrect. Ice goons bother people, with no provocation. Parking lots, private homes, they just grab and push and demand. It’s bad. Don’t you listen to the news??