40% of American women under 45 want to permanently leave
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Anonymous
dp.. Leeds is a great school, and their tuition is even lower. Tuition at my kid's oos flagship (chosen because no in state has the major they want) is $40K, 3x more expensive than the UK's top college. Tuition at my other kid's in state flagship is $12K, almost the same amount as Oxford. Plus, unis in the UK require 3 years, whereas most in the US require 4 years. Just another way that shows that the US is about greed. |
Anonymous
The math doesn’t add up though. It’s not just higher taxes but significantly lower taxes. You’re talking a 50% reduction in income over your entire career to pay for say, 200k in college benefits, if that. This is ignoring that many Americans live in state with inexpensive college tuition (Florida, TX and California) Reminds me of conversations with women in the UK bragging about their six months of paid leave. Ok sure, but I earn an extra 100k per year… you require paid leave from the government because wages are so low! |
Anonymous
| ^^ lower income not taxes |
Anonymous
You're probably being selective. Standard tuition at most UK universities for undergraduates is about 10k GBP. 10k. You pay more for law or medicine courses. But you're ignoring living expenses. It used to be about another 10k GBP for basic student accommodation and meals. 20k GBP altogether is about $30k, which makes it comparable to an in-state flagship like College Park for Maryland residents (including room and board). But the comment about American students having higher salaries after college remains absolutely true. I did check Oxford's website and it estimated 1500-2100 a month for living expenses on top of the 10k tuition. So my 10k year for living is clearly out of date. And actually the average UK student debt burden as of 2025 is 53,000 GBP, which is the highest in the developed world, according to the Guardian. Last but not least, American schools are better funded and have more resources than most British schools. Only Oxbridge comes close. |
Anonymous
Yes, but it's better to be M/LC in the UK than in the US. Social safety net is better in the UK, and if you have a huge medical crisis, you won't go bankrupt in the UK, unlike here. My cousin died from stage 4 leukemia; they couldn't afford to pay for insurance and the high deductible but made too much for medicaid. People in the UK can get cancer treatments for free (I know like 4 or 5 people in the UK who have had cancer treatments). Yes, NHS has issues, and people if they can use private care in the UK. BUT, private care in the UK is a fraction of the cost there compared to the US. I have ACA and my now retired SIL used to work for the NHS. She was gobsmacked at the amount we pay for things like a scan or MRI. For the most part, SIL uses the NHS, and pays for private only for a few things. Her col is a fraction of our col (she doesn't live in London). My ILs (who have passed) col was a fraction of my retired parents col. We are thinking of moving to the UK for a few years simply because the cost of healthcare in the US is ridiculous. More MC go abroad for medical care than the other way around. As you said, both countries are great if you have money. But, the vast majority of people in both countries are MC, not UMC. |
Anonymous
Well, Trump is making sure that funding dries up for most colleges here in the US. Also, you missed the part where I stated that most unis in the Uk are 3 years, not 4. So, again, college in the UK overall is cheaper than here. My DC is actually at UMDCP, and their monthly expenses is probably around $1700 to $1800 per month, again, for 4 years, not 3. |
Anonymous
| Female in mid-50s and I don’t want to leave. I lived in Europe for 4 years and have family in 3 different countries. The grass is not greener. |
Anonymous
It's worth googling a bit before posting on here. The average UK student debt is 53,000 pounds, which at current exchange rate is $71,300. The average American student debt is apparently $43,333. Three years versus four years is meaningless when the average debt is significantly higher. It's impressive, when you think about it. Especially as the UK graduates go into lower paying jobs after university. The areas where a typical Brit is better off than a typical American is few and limited and to specific circumstances. |
Anonymous
| I mean, I want to spend my days laying on a beach in a cute, safe area with hot guys and eat whatever I want without gaining weight yet here I am procrastinating on dcum, stuck in cold Dcumlandia with a stressful job, awful commute, and a ton of family responsibilities while starving myself to lose weight that simply won’t budge thanks to menopause…so I’d take any pill with a grain of salt. |
Anonymous
Except for those of us with 3 passports including the blue American one |
Anonymous
| If you want to leave, then you don't realize what you have. We live in the greatest nation in the entire world. We have more freedoms here than anywhere. |
Anonymous
It’s cool to not have missiles or bombs go off regularly. I agree. |
Anonymous
It seems like everyone has 2 passports now. 3+ passports are the real flex. Bordering on spy-level. |
Anonymous
No, if you read the article, this trend started during last year of Obama and hit a high point during Biden. |
Anonymous
One is American. Two from EU. I’ll add a forth from South America in the not so distant future. |