High test score kids who didn't get in where they thought they would

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Anonymous wrote:My ds East Indian from dmv had 34 act too and was accepted to Cmu, gtech cs. But rejected uva, umich. So this tell me scores really a small factor it was rigor , essays and awards that matter heavily. Once you score above 1500/ 33 or 34 it’s a wash

Bc he was likely boring didn’t stand out and had nothing unique.

Why Asians post here is beyond me given the racial stereotyping they encounter.

Because they don’t live in a bubble.
They face stereotyping every day.
They don’t run away from reality.
They are confident in their ability and are not afraid of adversity.

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I don’t see Asian hate more than other types of hates lol
There are a few vile people here who love seeking out something in every thread to sh*t on.
I’m asian. I think you can’t really generalize the contributors. I think it’s pretty diverse in terms gender, wealth, race, age, professions, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Most high-scoring kids wind up at the major flagships (Michigan, Georgia, Purdue, Rutgers, etc.). There just aren’t that many seats at the elite privates, and many of them are reserved for wealthy/connected/athletic students.

There are only ~17,000 1570+ students per year.

T20 75 percentile cutoff line typically at 1570. 25% of T20 admits have 1570+.

~7000 1570+ go to T20.
~4000 1570+ other top private, SLACs, Stern, Ross, Georgetown, USC, etc.
~3000 1570+ to flagships, Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, Georgia Tech, UNC, etc.
~3000 1570+ to merit (full or half tuition), Case Western, Grinell, Rochester, etc.

You know that UCLA and Berkeley are actually top 20s, right?

They are test blind. But many high scorers attend these schools happily.

The point is, the number of 1570+ at T20 (other than UCs) can be estimated because the 75 percentile line is typically 1570.

But (at least in recent years) they’re mostly test optional, so the number of kids scoring 1570+ is only 25% of kids submitting scores, or less than 25% of the student body. Eg at Vanderbilt (#18), half of all students were TO, so even though the 75th percentile score is 1560, that only represents 1/8th of the student body. The cutoff for the top 25% of the class would be the median reported score, which was 1540. If you assume that 25% of students at Vandy scored 1570+, you’d be dramatically overstating the number of seats at Vandy available for high-scoring students.

UCs are test blind, not TO. They won't even look at your SAT even if you submit, and I think there's no place to submit it -- someone correct me if I'm wrong about this part.

You’re correct that UCs are test blind. But even a test-blind school can enroll a lot of high-scoring students if it has a strong reputation, selects based on factors correlated with SAT score (all UCs use GPA; UCLA and UCB use AP scores), and offers most of them (ie, in-state students) a good price.

My 1570 NMF kid is at Berkeley.and most of his friends had high SAT scores.

From Top public Magnet HS:
Highest scores (most are NMF too) got into Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Michigan, Berkley, etc. (but interestingly...they attend Purdue, Alabama, Texas A&M, etc... most just couldn't justify the price tag of brand name U and in the end followed the $. The few kids that ended up attending T20s/meets needs from same HS school were for the most part very low income. One was questbridge.

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Anonymous wrote:1540 (800 math): UW Seattle for engineering

Too bad UW doesn't even see SAT/ACT scores (with rare exceptions for borderline students)

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Anonymous wrote:Lesson: apply undecided arts & sciences

1000+, stay away from CS, engineering & business majors

Really hate this kind of bad advice. Essentially asking kids to lie about their passion. What happens to integrity.

These brilliant kids, if not in at ivies, still end up in very top school like Georgia tech, Harvey Mudd, CMU.

You know darn well that for 75% of these kids business, CS, & engineering aren’t their passion but just a gateway into what they think will make them 6 figures. That’s what all this hullabaloo is about. Getting into a top school with the right major for the best ROI, good connections and networking, and opportunities so that your DC has a 6 figure job waiting for them at graduation. Please don’t start with this passion stuff. We all know why there’s an influx of these majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Lesson: apply undecided arts & sciences

1000+, stay away from CS, engineering & business majors

Really hate this kind of bad advice. Essentially asking kids to lie about their passion. What happens to integrity.

These brilliant kids, if not in at ivies, still end up in very top school like Georgia tech, Harvey Mudd, CMU.

You know darn well that for 75% of these kids business, CS, & engineering aren’t their passion but just a gateway into what they think will make them 6 figures. That’s what all this hullabaloo is about. Getting into a top school with the right major for the best ROI, good connections and networking, and opportunities so that your DC has a 6 figure job waiting for them at graduation. Please don’t start with this passion stuff. We all know why there’s an influx of these majors.

Huh? As far as I know, hooking up, playing video games or making tik toks aren't majors.

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Anonymous wrote:My ds East Indian from dmv had 34 act too and was accepted to Cmu, gtech cs. But rejected uva, umich. So this tell me scores really a small factor it was rigor , essays and awards that matter heavily. Once you score above 1500/ 33 or 34 it’s a wash

Bc he was likely boring didn’t stand out and had nothing unique.

Like your charm and winning personality?

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Anonymous wrote:Lesson: apply undecided arts & sciences

1000+, stay away from CS, engineering & business majors

Really hate this kind of bad advice. Essentially asking kids to lie about their passion. What happens to integrity.

These brilliant kids, if not in at ivies, still end up in very top school like Georgia tech, Harvey Mudd, CMU.

You know darn well that for 75% of these kids business, CS, & engineering aren’t their passion but just a gateway into what they think will make them 6 figures. That’s what all this hullabaloo is about. Getting into a top school with the right major for the best ROI, good connections and networking, and opportunities so that your DC has a 6 figure job waiting for them at graduation. Please don’t start with this passion stuff. We all know why there’s an influx of these majors.

I am sorry you think this way—shows how small a person you are.

What’s your kid’s passion? Hope it’s not hiding behind a screen with hate.

You can do better. Seriously, it would be good for your kid.

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And what is wrong with wanting to graduate and make some money?

I am in a public interest field because I wanted to change the world. And I have helped many people but certainly haven't made a ton of money. Is it rewarding? Yes. But would I do it again? And I'm watching how just so many people have been struggling with money because they chose a passion. Public interest just doesn't cut it unless you have family money to begin with.

So I'm advising my kids to go after the money and use your money to fund their passions.

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OP- those are the 50th percentile for test required schools in the top 15-20, meaning the majority of Applicants have that or higher. Those scores aren’t distinguishing for Ivies or T20s

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^ everyone has them

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1520 denied GA Tech in-state

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My ds East Indian from dmv had 34 act too and was accepted to Cmu, gtech cs. But rejected uva, umich. So this tell me scores really a small factor it was rigor , essays and awards that matter heavily. Once you score above 1500/ 33 or 34 it’s a wash

Bc he was likely boring didn’t stand out and had nothing unique.

Why Asians post here is beyond me given the racial stereotyping they encounter.

Most Asians come on DCUM to rail against URMs.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My ds East Indian from dmv had 34 act too and was accepted to Cmu, gtech cs. But rejected uva, umich. So this tell me scores really a small factor it was rigor , essays and awards that matter heavily. Once you score above 1500/ 33 or 34 it’s a wash

Bc he was likely boring didn’t stand out and had nothing unique.

Why Asians post here is beyond me given the racial stereotyping they encounter.

Most Asians come on DCUM to rail against URMs.

South Asian here. Sadly I agree - it’s way too prevalent here.

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Anonymous wrote:Lesson: apply undecided arts & sciences

1000+, stay away from CS, engineering & business majors

Really hate this kind of bad advice. Essentially asking kids to lie about their passion. What happens to integrity.

These brilliant kids, if not in at ivies, still end up in very top school like Georgia tech, Harvey Mudd, CMU.

You know darn well that for 75% of these kids business, CS, & engineering aren’t their passion but just a gateway into what they think will make them 6 figures. That’s what all this hullabaloo is about. Getting into a top school with the right major for the best ROI, good connections and networking, and opportunities so that your DC has a 6 figure job waiting for them at graduation. Please don’t start with this passion stuff. We all know why there’s an influx of these majors.

Wrong.

Engineering is a very hard major.

For my kids it was easy they are very lucky to have brains that are wired that way. They are also fabulous test takers.

No engineer works in the field long if they hate it. That is incredibly rare.